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steven_t92 Orpington 26 Dec 20 7.26pm
Originally posted by SwordFish I have always backed Roy but times up and I think give someone with a palace connection a go! Maybe Sean Derry, paddy McCarthy or even Mike jedinak (how is his coaching badge coming on) I’m sick of old man shares coming in , we want someone with some spunk!!! Sorry but sacking Roy just to give someone a go because they've played here is stupid. Thats just throwing away our PL status. I'm in the Roy out brigade but only if we get someone in who's got a proven track record of being better. Howe is the only obvious candidate available. I've seen some mention Poch or Tuchel which is dreaming. Edited by steven_t92 (26 Dec 2020 7.27pm)

steven_t92

Orpington 26 Dec 20 7.26pm

Originally posted by SwordFish

I have always backed Roy but times up and I think give someone with a palace connection a go! Maybe Sean Derry, paddy McCarthy or even Mike jedinak (how is his coaching badge coming on) I’m sick of old man shares coming in , we want someone with some spunk!!!

Sorry but sacking Roy just to give someone a go because they've played here is stupid. Thats just throwing away our PL status. I'm in the Roy out brigade but only if we get someone in who's got a proven track record of being better. Howe is the only obvious candidate available. I've seen some mention Poch or Tuchel which is dreaming.

Edited by steven_t92 (26 Dec 2020 7.27pm)

SwordFish Peasmarsh,East Sussex 26 Dec 20 7.26pm
Originally posted by braunstoneagle derry, paddy or jedi? i assume you want to see us go down? what have any of those done to warrant being manager of a PL club? This is why roy should stay til the summer, he will keep us up, lets play the long game rather than kneejerk reactions. Paddy McCarthy is doing great in our youth squad what has Roy done to warrant staying?? “This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder

SwordFish

Peasmarsh,East Sussex 26 Dec 20 7.26pm

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

derry, paddy or jedi?

i assume you want to see us go down?

what have any of those done to warrant being manager of a PL club?

This is why roy should stay til the summer, he will keep us up, lets play the long game rather than kneejerk reactions.

Paddy McCarthy is doing great in our youth squad what has Roy done to warrant staying??

“This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder

SwordFish Peasmarsh,East Sussex 26 Dec 20 7.27pm
Originally posted by steven_t92 Originally posted by SwordFish I have always backed Roy but times up and I think give someone with a palace connection a go! Maybe Sean Derry, paddy McCarthy or even Mike jedinak (how is his coaching badge coming on) I’m sick of old man shares coming in , we want someone with some spunk!!! Sorry but sacking Roy just to give someone a go because they've played here is stupid. Thats just throwing away our PL status. I'm in the Roy out brigade but only if we get someone in who's got a proven track record of being better. Howe is the only obvious candidate available. I've seen some mention Poch or Tuchel which is dreaming. Eddie Howe is the quickest way out of this league “This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder

SwordFish

Peasmarsh,East Sussex 26 Dec 20 7.27pm

Originally posted by steven_t92

Originally posted by SwordFish

Eddie Howe is the quickest way out of this league

BlueJay UK 26 Dec 20 7.30pm
Originally posted by eritheagle Been one of Roy’s biggest supporters since he’s been here but I have now had enough and think it’s time for a change. If we lose on Monday then I think they need to get someone new in to hopefully get that bounce for the Sheffield Utd game. I know this thread pops up after every bad loss, but to an extent I concur. Before it was often the case of what Roy had done for us, or 'careful what you wish for'. I can't help but feel there's a fair argument for a change now though, a roll of the dice that can bring about a different approach or mindset.

BlueJay

UK 26 Dec 20 7.30pm

Originally posted by eritheagle

Been one of Roy’s biggest supporters since he’s been here but I have now had enough and think it’s time for a change.
If we lose on Monday then I think they need to get someone new in to hopefully get that bounce for the Sheffield Utd game.

I know this thread pops up after every bad loss, but to an extent I concur. Before it was often the case of what Roy had done for us, or 'careful what you wish for'. I can't help but feel there's a fair argument for a change now though, a roll of the dice that can bring about a different approach or mindset.

sionh Shoreditch, London 26 Dec 20 7.30pm
The only positive from that match has to be Parish being pushed into making a change. I’ve always liked the stability hodgson has brought at the back, his organisational skills but now that has left the team. It may be a change of culture that might make us suffer for a little and a gamble but Eddie Howe would be an outstanding alternative in my opinion and would give us hope for the future, someone I love listening to, and undoubtedly the players would like to play for he also focuses on youth progression too. Can see him getting on with Parish

sionh

Shoreditch, London 26 Dec 20 7.30pm

The only positive from that match has to be Parish being pushed into making a change. I’ve always liked the stability hodgson has brought at the back, his organisational skills but now that has left the team. It may be a change of culture that might make us suffer for a little and a gamble but Eddie Howe would be an outstanding alternative in my opinion and would give us hope for the future, someone I love listening to, and undoubtedly the players would like to play for he also focuses on youth progression too. Can see him getting on with Parish

AERO 26 Dec 20 7.32pm
Like players any manager is a risk .The most successful and costly managers ask for a big transfer budget.which enviably brings success for a while Benitez for example. Howe would be a risk but have a hunch he has already been lined up for job and discussions taken place on way forward .Don't forget was linked before Roy .

AERO

26 Dec 20 7.32pm

Like players any manager is a risk .The most successful and costly managers ask for a big transfer budget.which enviably brings success for a while Benitez for example. Howe would be a risk but have a hunch he has already been lined up for job and discussions taken place on way forward .Don't forget was linked before Roy .

MonsterMunch Cambridge 26 Dec 20 7.32pm
Originally posted by TheBigToePunt Again, please do explain who exactly you think we can get that will do a better job than the current manager. Because I'm aware of the failings of my current plumber, vet, boss, Prime Minister, internet provider and mechanic. But unless I can identify a better one, it really doesn't matter at all, does it? Again... what’s the point on suggesting names anyway .. it’s all out of our control. Again it’s the senior figures at the club who would make that decision. Unlike your plumber, vet, internet provider and mechanic that’s all in your control. But like palace appears to be a lack will to change..

MonsterMunch

Cambridge 26 Dec 20 7.32pm

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Again, please do explain who exactly you think we can get that will do a better job than the current manager.

Because I'm aware of the failings of my current plumber, vet, boss, Prime Minister, internet provider and mechanic.

But unless I can identify a better one, it really doesn't matter at all, does it?

Again... what’s the point on suggesting names anyway .. it’s all out of our control. Again it’s the senior figures at the club who would make that decision. Unlike your plumber, vet, internet provider and mechanic that’s all in your control. But like palace appears to be a lack will to change..

SwordFish Peasmarsh,East Sussex 26 Dec 20 7.32pm
Originally posted by sionh The only positive from that match has to be Parish being pushed into making a change. I’ve always liked the stability hodgson has brought at the back, his organisational skills but now that has left the team. It may be a change of culture that might make us suffer for a little and a gamble but Eddie Howe would be an outstanding alternative in my opinion and would give us hope for the future, someone I love listening to, and undoubtedly the players would like to play for he also focuses on youth progression too. Can see him getting on with Parish Without starting another thread I would really love to know why people rate Eddie Howe??? He spent a fortune got Bournemouth relegated , he got sacked Bournemouth sold Eddie’s “wonder boys” and are now flying ? In my opinion , the bloke is a joke “This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder

SwordFish

Peasmarsh,East Sussex 26 Dec 20 7.32pm

Originally posted by sionh

Without starting another thread I would really love to know why people rate Eddie Howe??? He spent a fortune got Bournemouth relegated , he got sacked Bournemouth sold Eddie’s “wonder boys” and are now flying ? In my opinion , the bloke is a joke

TheBigToePunt 26 Dec 20 7.36pm
OK, I'll help the 'Roy Out' brigade a bit and start naming names. Internal appointment (Derry, McCarthy, someone from the reserves or youth etc). Howe. Dyche. Anything here blowing anyones mind?

TheBigToePunt

26 Dec 20 7.36pm

OK, I'll help the 'Roy Out' brigade a bit and start naming names.

Internal appointment (Derry, McCarthy, someone from the reserves or youth etc).
Howe.
Dyche.

Anything here blowing anyones mind?

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Dec 20 7.37pm
Originally posted by sionh The only positive from that match has to be Parish being pushed into making a change. I’ve always liked the stability hodgson has brought at the back, his organisational skills but now that has left the team. It may be a change of culture that might make us suffer for a little and a gamble but Eddie Howe would be an outstanding alternative in my opinion and would give us hope for the future, someone I love listening to, and undoubtedly the players would like to play for he also focuses on youth progression too. Can see him getting on with Parish Even IF Hodgson was relieved of his duties, the new manager would still be left with an old squad with several players past their best. I don't envisage a significant transfer splash in the January 'Window'. Attracting a suitable manager under these conditions could prove somewhat challenging.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Dec 20 7.37pm

Originally posted by sionh

Even IF Hodgson was relieved of his duties, the new manager would still be left with an old squad with several players past their best.

I don't envisage a significant transfer splash in the January 'Window'.
Attracting a suitable manager under these conditions could prove somewhat challenging.

TheBigToePunt 26 Dec 20 7.38pm
Originally posted by SwordFish Shaun Derry managed notts county , professionally and yes I would! Coz it might give us some drive and ambition, as I said I have been well in the Roy camp for months however anything is better than this Quite right, my apologies. In fact it was Notts County and Cambridge, so an even more stellar CV.

TheBigToePunt

26 Dec 20 7.38pm

Originally posted by SwordFish

Shaun Derry managed notts county , professionally and yes I would! Coz it might give us some drive and ambition, as I said I have been well in the Roy camp for months however anything is better than this

Quite right, my apologies. In fact it was Notts County and Cambridge, so an even more stellar CV.

CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE bloomfield 26 Dec 20 7.40pm
I was castrated here a while back for pointing out that this league is an up or out mindset league. You cant survive for long by aiming for mid table obscurity. Playing to not lose or stop the advesary from doing you home. Thats a lesson 73 year old roll of the dice Hodgson has never learnt. So here we are. a 10 man team gouges us at will. And some on here still claim our future in the prem rests on this man? Relying on Zaha antics to give us PL fascia was never going to be a long term strategy. Hodgeson is a gentleman for sure. He is a hack of a manager for shizzle.

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bloomfield 26 Dec 20 7.40pm

I was castrated here a while back for pointing out that this league is an up or out mindset league. You cant survive for long by aiming for mid table obscurity. Playing to not lose or stop the advesary from doing you home. Thats a lesson 73 year old roll of the dice Hodgson has never learnt. So here we are. a 10 man team gouges us at will. And some on here still claim our future in the prem rests on this man? Relying on Zaha antics to give us PL fascia was never going to be a long term strategy. Hodgeson is a gentleman for sure. He is a hack of a manager for shizzle.

SwordFish Peasmarsh,East Sussex 26 Dec 20 7.40pm
Originally posted by TheBigToePunt OK, I'll help the 'Roy Out' brigade a bit and start naming names. Internal appointment (Derry, McCarthy, someone from the reserves or youth etc). Howe. Dyche. Anything here blowing anyones mind? Yes it is , please before you think I’m a knee jerker , read my previous posts defending Roy, however , no boss can come off the back of a performance like last weekend and serve up that today, he has to go, he really does , the Derry , McCarthy way is the most plausible because in my opinion we do better with some sort of connection at the helm , either way, I’d rather have a pint on that than get relegated getting smashed week in week out, last year at least we could say we were hard to break down and score against , this year ; we are getting taken apart and still can’t score , relegation beckons , and tbh I really don’t care as long as we give it our all , which at the moment we arnt , I’d still be there , if I’m allowed by the buffoon boris but atm I’ve got to watch tv listening to pundits cr@p “This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder

SwordFish

Peasmarsh,East Sussex 26 Dec 20 7.40pm

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

OK, I'll help the 'Roy Out' brigade a bit and start naming names.

Internal appointment (Derry, McCarthy, someone from the reserves or youth etc).
Howe.
Dyche.

Anything here blowing anyones mind?

Yes it is , please before you think I’m a knee jerker , read my previous posts defending Roy, however , no boss can come off the back of a performance like last weekend and serve up that today, he has to go, he really does , the Derry , McCarthy way is the most plausible because in my opinion we do better with some sort of connection at the helm , either way, I’d rather have a pint on that than get relegated getting smashed week in week out, last year at least we could say we were hard to break down and score against , this year ; we are getting taken apart and still can’t score , relegation beckons , and tbh I really don’t care as long as we give it our all , which at the moment we arnt , I’d still be there , if I’m allowed by the buffoon boris but atm I’ve got to watch tv listening to pundits cr@p

dynamicdick Dormansland 26 Dec 20 7.41pm
Originally posted by robdave2k I think part of the point is that he doesn’t take his share of the blame. We win and he takes the credit. It’s the system, his talent, his experience. We lose and “The players didn’t do what was asked” or “the players need to learn from this” Considering how he bangs on about his experience, Stevie Wonder could tell you some of our issues. Schlupp is not a right winger, Milo is playing badly, MacArthur is knackered and PVA is the biggest liability out there Yet we have the players to do his system but he will not drop his favourites even if they are playing badly or are knackered. Our genius manager couldn’t use Camarasa, Meyer, Reidiwald etc and now has managed to take Eze and Zaha and nullify them too. He should build his team round them. There’s a reason he failed at every big job and the malaise that happened with England is setting in. Roy once said he should be thought of in the same breath of as Ferguson. The entire issue with Roy is he has his favourites and picks them, the rest are shoehorned in. We have real talent in Townsend, Zaha, Eze, Benteke but they are afterthoughts to jamming in dross like Milo, PVA, Schlupp (on the right) and a knackered Jimmy Mac. Edited by robdave2k (26 Dec 2020 6.41pm) Benteke may have talent but you have to apply it and today again showed that he simply hasn’t got that. Utterly lazy and like many contributed zero to today’s awful performance. Bring back Brolin

dynamicdick

Dormansland 26 Dec 20 7.41pm

Originally posted by robdave2k

I think part of the point is that he doesn’t take his share of the blame.

We win and he takes the credit. It’s the system, his talent, his experience.

We lose and

“The players didn’t do what was asked” or “the players need to learn from this”

Considering how he bangs on about his experience, Stevie Wonder could tell you some of our issues. Schlupp is not a right winger, Milo
is playing badly, MacArthur is knackered and PVA is the biggest liability out there

Yet we have the players to do his system but he will not drop his favourites even if they are playing badly or are knackered.

Our genius manager couldn’t use Camarasa, Meyer, Reidiwald etc and now has managed to take Eze and Zaha and nullify them too. He should build his team round them.

There’s a reason he failed at every big job and the malaise that happened with England is setting in. Roy once said he should be thought of in the same breath of as Ferguson.

The entire issue with Roy is he has his favourites and picks them, the rest are shoehorned in. We have real talent in Townsend, Zaha, Eze, Benteke but they are afterthoughts to jamming in dross like Milo, PVA, Schlupp (on the right) and a knackered Jimmy Mac.

Edited by robdave2k (26 Dec 2020 6.41pm)

Benteke may have talent but you have to apply it and today again showed that he simply hasn’t got that. Utterly lazy and like many contributed zero to today’s awful performance.

Bring back Brolin

MonsterMunch Cambridge 26 Dec 20 7.41pm
Some aspire for more some are happy to settle for what they’ve been given. Each to their own.

MonsterMunch

Cambridge 26 Dec 20 7.41pm

Some aspire for more some are happy to settle for what they’ve been given. Each to their own.

PatrickA London 26 Dec 20 7.42pm
I was Roy out at the end of last season. Obviously this didn’t happen and I think it would not make much sense to make a change mid season unless we are in serious danger and unless a realistic candidate is available to replace him. Roy’s strengths have traditionally been good organisation and a strong defence. At the moment these have deserted him. Is it because he’s attacking more, poor form from the players or a combination of these things? He needs to sort it out quickly.

PatrickA

London 26 Dec 20 7.42pm

I was Roy out at the end of last season.
Obviously this didn’t happen and I think it would not make much sense to make a change mid season unless we are in serious danger and unless a realistic candidate is available to replace him.
Roy’s strengths have traditionally been good organisation and a strong defence.
At the moment these have deserted him.
Is it because he’s attacking more, poor form from the players or a combination of these things?
He needs to sort it out quickly.

CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE bloomfield 26 Dec 20 7.48pm
Originally posted by osborny99 I believe every word from other fans from clubs such as West Brom and Fulham who warn of replacing Hodgson right now - do it at the end of the season - the grass isn't always greener and I don't know who people see as a replacement? The likes of Howe wouldn't come to Palace... Every club will have a run of bad results in a season - looks like Palace's is now. After the last 2 results, there will plenty of knee jerk on these pages - for what it's worth, 2 weeks ago 5 live pundits were calling this the best team which Palace have had since being back at the Prem. Hodgson's undoing is, at last, age and a lack of pace is starting to show within the squad. Macarthur has slowed down, and Miliojovic has become completely ineffective over the past season - between them over the past 2 seasons, they have formed the defensive bedrock which has allowed Palace to try and press as a defensive unit. Behind these 2 - and the back 4 have no pace at all. Kouyate has no conviction adn is not a CB and I thought, today, Dann looked about 40 years old whilst, defensively, Van Aanholt has always been a liability. Cahill, if fit, and Tomkins should start at CB on Monday, with Ward and Schlupp either side. All well and good having the likes of Eze on the pitch for his creativity and flair - but if he is going to play as a winger then defensively he isn't at the level of Townsend - whose role becomes even more important defensively when J Mac and Milo are slowing down - especially when PVA constantly pushes forward and gets caught short. Palace will not go down and will finish comfortably mid table IMO - Roy is the man to see this season out before moving on. Also think this is the last season of semi regular game time for Macarthur, Dann and Ward. Blaming Hodgson is the easy thing to do right now - but other than starting Tomkins and Mccarthy today as opposed to Dann and Miliojovic, I wouldnt have done much different..... wonder if Chelsea fans will be screaming for Lampard out tonight? No chelsea will not be screaming for Lamaprds head tonight. They did not lose 7-0 last weekend. Thank you.

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bloomfield 26 Dec 20 7.48pm

Originally posted by osborny99

I believe every word from other fans from clubs such as West Brom and Fulham who warn of replacing Hodgson right now - do it at the end of the season - the grass isn't always greener and I don't know who people see as a replacement? The likes of Howe wouldn't come to Palace...

Every club will have a run of bad results in a season - looks like Palace's is now.

After the last 2 results, there will plenty of knee jerk on these pages - for what it's worth, 2 weeks ago 5 live pundits were calling this the best team which Palace have had since being back at the Prem.

Hodgson's undoing is, at last, age and a lack of pace is starting to show within the squad.

Macarthur has slowed down, and Miliojovic has become completely ineffective over the past season - between them over the past 2 seasons, they have formed the defensive bedrock which has allowed Palace to try and press as a defensive unit.

Behind these 2 - and the back 4 have no pace at all.
Kouyate has no conviction adn is not a CB and I thought, today, Dann looked about 40 years old whilst, defensively, Van Aanholt has always been a liability.

Cahill, if fit, and Tomkins should start at CB on Monday, with Ward and Schlupp either side.

All well and good having the likes of Eze on the pitch for his creativity and flair - but if he is going to play as a winger then defensively he isn't at the level of Townsend - whose role becomes even more important defensively when J Mac and Milo are slowing down - especially when PVA constantly pushes forward and gets caught short.

Palace will not go down and will finish comfortably mid table IMO - Roy is the man to see this season out before moving on.
Also think this is the last season of semi regular game time for Macarthur, Dann and Ward.

Blaming Hodgson is the easy thing to do right now - but other than starting Tomkins and Mccarthy today as opposed to Dann and Miliojovic, I wouldnt have done much different..... wonder if Chelsea fans will be screaming for Lampard out tonight?

No chelsea will not be screaming for Lamaprds head tonight. They did not lose 7-0 last weekend. Thank you.

jeeagles 26 Dec 20 7.53pm
Originally posted by TheBigToePunt OK, I'll help the 'Roy Out' brigade a bit and start naming names. Internal appointment (Derry, McCarthy, someone from the reserves or youth etc). Howe. Dyche. Anything here blowing anyones mind? If you were looking for a manager and suggested Roy many people would grimace. I think the first post on here after we recruited him said "there are many questions in football, and Roy Hodgson is the answer to none of them". He's now not only not good enough, but a hindrance to the teams performance and damaging to the players and club.

jeeagles

26 Dec 20 7.53pm

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

OK, I'll help the 'Roy Out' brigade a bit and start naming names.

Internal appointment (Derry, McCarthy, someone from the reserves or youth etc).
Howe.
Dyche.

Anything here blowing anyones mind?

If you were looking for a manager and suggested Roy many people would grimace.

I think the first post on here after we recruited him said "there are many questions in football, and Roy Hodgson is the answer to none of them".

He's now not only not good enough, but a hindrance to the teams performance and damaging to the players and club.

braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 26 Dec 20 8.21pm
Originally posted by SwordFish Paddy McCarthy is doing great in our youth squad what has Roy done to warrant staying?? not been in the relegation zone and comfortably kept us up for 3, probably 4 seasons on a shoestring budget...but yeah your right, chuck a rookie in there and hope for the best. seems like a sound idea. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

braunstoneagle

the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 26 Dec 20 8.21pm

Originally posted by SwordFish

Paddy McCarthy is doing great in our youth squad what has Roy done to warrant staying??

not been in the relegation zone and comfortably kept us up for 3, probably 4 seasons on a shoestring budget...but yeah your right, chuck a rookie in there and hope for the best.

seems like a sound idea.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

Plaistow Eagle 26 Dec 20 8.21pm
Originally posted by robdave2k I think part of the point is that he doesn’t take his share of the blame. We win and he takes the credit. It’s the system, his talent, his experience. We lose and “The players didn’t do what was asked” or “the players need to learn from this” Considering how he bangs on about his experience, Stevie Wonder could tell you some of our issues. Schlupp is not a right winger, Milo is playing badly, MacArthur is knackered and PVA is the biggest liability out there Yet we have the players to do his system but he will not drop his favourites even if they are playing badly or are knackered. Our genius manager couldn’t use Camarasa, Meyer, Reidiwald etc and now has managed to take Eze and Zaha and nullify them too. He should build his team round them. There’s a reason he failed at every big job and the malaise that happened with England is setting in. Roy once said he should be thought of in the same breath of as Ferguson. The entire issue with Roy is he has his favourites and picks them, the rest are shoehorned in. We have real talent in Townsend, Zaha, Eze, Benteke but they are afterthoughts to jamming in dross like Milo, PVA, Schlupp (on the right) and a knackered Jimmy Mac. Edited by robdave2k (26 Dec 2020 6.41pm) Agree entirely.

Plaistow Eagle

26 Dec 20 8.21pm

Originally posted by robdave2k

I think part of the point is that he doesn’t take his share of the blame.

We win and he takes the credit. It’s the system, his talent, his experience.

We lose and

“The players didn’t do what was asked” or “the players need to learn from this”

Yet we have the players to do his system but he will not drop his favourites even if they are playing badly or are knackered.

Our genius manager couldn’t use Camarasa, Meyer, Reidiwald etc and now has managed to take Eze and Zaha and nullify them too. He should build his team round them.

There’s a reason he failed at every big job and the malaise that happened with England is setting in. Roy once said he should be thought of in the same breath of as Ferguson.

Edited by robdave2k (26 Dec 2020 6.41pm)

Agree entirely.

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