If we want to know where the Tories are at, then perhaps the fact that they have just refused Henry Bolton membership of the party might be a clue.

He is an expert on maintaining national borders.

No system is perfect and there are always some who want to change it, especially if that change benefits them. It’s always like that and when stresses test our economies that are unrelated to the system, like wars or pandemics, the system tends to get the blame.

So the rise of support for populist politicians is unsurprising. It’s always easy to sit outside and convince people your theories will deliver magic. The test comes when you get inside and you can’t. Brexit being the example that the rest of Europe should never forget.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

The tories overrule the Supreme Court to produce their own law declaring Rwanda is safe.

The whole thing is a ridiculous, hypocritical, probably won't work and definitely will have no effect on the figures they are so low.

It also costs the nation an arm and a leg for their ideological fantasy.

'Defence Secretary Grant Shapps has been unable to explain why the UK has accepted asylum seekers from Rwanda if the country is deemed safe by the Government.'

That's how bonkers the whole thing is.

Heartfelt sorrow for those poor souls the other day, what a way to go.

They put themselves on that boat.

They have no right to my country.

We would agree that Grant Shapps is a worm....though perhaps not for the same reasons.

The whole Rwanda question is easy to answer and depends precisely upon the definition of 'safe'.

However, I regard the leftist concept that because some nations aren't 'first worlds' as they patronizingly see them that this means that people from there have a right to my country.

The whole 'refugee' system was not set up for how it is abused today.

If white or otherwise 'third worldists' in this country wish to help those in other countries then plane tickets rather than just virtue signals are available.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jan 2024 1.19pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Haha that's good, but I can't see which partner is the more genocidal, Rwanda or Arsenal.

Probably Arsenal, as far as we are concerned.....

The asylum system is useless, we are not obliged to provide anything to anyone unless we choose to do so, we are a laughing stock. I totally blame the Conservatives for the past 13 years, who else ?

Asylum is an abused concept beyoond recognition of the original idealism

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.