As they wanted to see Trump impeached before he left office, but MCConnell refused to make time or accept the Articles, the timetable was not in the hands of the Democrats.

Additionally, an enquiry like this will examine the whole surrounding circumstances and who was responsible for what and when. It will examine very much more than just Trump's contribution but also the failures of the response and how others responded to Trump.

Making it independent removes the politics and the need of the Republicans to play to an audience of their supporters. We are likely therefore to hear more of the kind of condemnation made by McConnell. Some of the participants are likely to be called to describe why they did what they did.

Nevertheless, it will ensure it keeps the spotlight of Jan 6th on Trump during a time when he is likely to be trying to re-model his image.

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I tire of these outright disingenerous double standards.

Can we have an inquiry into the connections between the Democrats and Antifa and Blm please?

Because they both plainly acted with dual purpose for many months before the election.

Apparently Trump is responsible for the actions of the 'Q' brigade yet Democrats allowed murder, destruction and businesses to be burned down to the grounds within their own cities.....these activists/criminals were their brown shirts in all but name.

Democrats released these criminals and rioters back onto the streets, Democratic corporations and supporters paid their fines.

Not once were Anti and/or Blm condemned by name by the Democrats yet Trump was required to disown the Proud boys.

Fecking hypocrites.

It was only when they believed their poll numbers were suffering that they said anything....slimey weasels the lot of them.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Do you seriously believe that anyone would hold an enquiry into these events simply to put money in lawyers pockets? Don't you think that people are actually interested in determining the truth to ensure it couldn't ever happen again? Lawyers don't need enquiries to make money. They have ample opportunities in a litigious country like the USA.

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Not for the first time your hypocrisy and prejudices are overpowering your reasoning.

For what you suggest is simply untrue. There aren't such things as "their" cities. There are just cities, populated by people, governed by politicians and policed by police forces, producing a complex mix of sometimes competing priorities and stresses. Politicians of all stripes condemned the violence. Some decided to attribute blame to peaceful protesters whose legitimate actions were hi-jacked by criminal elements. Some did not and tried to separate the two.

As neither BLM nor Antifa were making any direct threats of violence as organisations, unlike the "Proud Boys", it was entirely appropriate to concentrate the condemnations on individual criminal elements. Keeping them separated was important. You don't want to drive the peaceful into joining the rioters by falsely accusing them.

Trump wasn't accused of "being responsible" for the "Q" brigade. He was accused of inciting those who believed his rhetoric, some of whom also believed in "Q", as much by what he didn't say as that which he did. Now we will find out at which door lies the blame for the lack of preparedness and whether that was a deliberate act.

That said it would nevertheless be a sensible exercise to hold a full independent enquiry into the events las year in exactly way that the Jan 6th incursion will now be looked at. I don't believe the Democrats would have anything whatsoever to fear from it and indeed may welcome it as a way to lay these types of ridiculous innuendo and whataboutery to rest for good. If there are lessons to be learned then let's learn them.

It would be a little ironic if the Democrats did announce such an enquiry to run in tandem with the Jan 6th one given that Trump could easily have announced something like that last year thinking he could make political capital out of it. Which only raises the question as to why he didn't.

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It is serious and it wasn't just "wheeled out" for no good reason.

Ensuring Trump becomes history asap has to be a serious political objective shared by the leadership on both sides of the aisle in the USA. You are witnessing that in real-time with McConnell. They want him gone. It is my belief that there was probably a stage managed script for the events of the past week written by the leaders of both parties. Get the videos on the record, find him not guilty and then resume the important work on the pandemic.

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If Trump had commissioned a truly independent enquiry I would have welcomed it. It would have taken years to report though which is almost certainly why he didn't. Not being able to throw mud during an election campaign doesn't suit Trump.

As Antifa don't have a central organisation I fail to see how it's possible for them to make threats.

I have no time at all for anyone who uses violence in pursuit of political objectives so if people who espouse the ambitions of Antifa also make threats then they are rightly to be condemned. But put the blame where it is due. On the individuals involved.

When any individual peacefully opposes fascist behaviour, and especially threats of violence, then they get my support whatever label others wish to hang around their necks. The keywords are individual and peacefully.

Only when there is a group of people working together to an agenda devised by a leadership should an organisation be blamed. Rogue elements exist in many places.

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