If a established premier league team cant hire decent level managers we should just give up already then no f***ing point us there teams like Wolves Leicester ect have come up from the championship and shown ambition Southampton have continuously shown willingness to improve we never do but Parish talks a lot about it the snake oil c***.

We aint at the ceiling of this club not even close to it we are the biggest club in our part of London with a new academy facilities and allegedly going to be upgrading the stadium ect we are the countries biggest under achiever in terms of potential let down constantly by poor ownership never seizing opportunities. We have had one of the most talented players in the league for 5 seasons straight and not built around him or gave him a reason to want to stay we are a f***ing joke.

No you asked to name a Manager who could do better than Roy - that question has been answered.

Now your changing the goalposts and going on about whether they would come - not ours to determine or decide.

In any event we are a London premiership club of 8 years standing - and if we have aspirations to develop we should be looking for a quality replacement.

Not necessarily Tuchel but others have been mentioned Benitez, Gerard, Frank etc.. that you have chosen to ignore.

So your original question answered and point disproved..!!

Now perhaps your get off your high horse..!!

Not unreasonable to ask for the suggestions to be realistic.
I don’t think our Mickey Mouse behaviour in recent transfer windows, want away owners or squad age will be lost on many.

I'm pretty sure I asked for feasible options, but even if I didn't I'd think its fairly obvious that's what we need.

Otherwise it's an easy game. I'll play the following hand:

Klopp, with Guardiola as assistant manager.

I'm not defending anyone. I'm pointing out that which should be obvious to anyone - you need an upgrade if you're going to change the manager otherwise its pointless sacking the one you have.

Doesn't seem like an unreasonable point to make.

You’re the one asking the questions and suggesting there isn’t a Manager out there who could do better job.

As I said feasibility is for the club to determine/decide.

As others have said there are many, young and hungry Managers out there that could do a far better job than Roy with this squad.

Compare us and Southampton - difference a young, hungry and ambitious Manager - know one had heard of Hasenhüttl 2 years ago..!!

If Southampton can do it why not Palace?

Personally I think Thomas Frank would be an excellent and exciting appointment.

COYP

The succession planning for life after Roy should be fairly advanced now in as much that there should be dialogue between the club and candidates. The next couple of games are crucial and if things don't improve the board have to make a decision to bring the replacement in now, go for a caretaker, or pray that Roy can get enough points on the board to stay up. Each option has its own risks. If the Roy replacement is available there's a good argument to get them I sooner rather than later.

Yes. I'm asking those who want Roy sacked exactly who they think he could be replaced by that would improve the side. And yes, I'm asking because it isn't obvious to me that there is a feasible option out there.

Frank has done well at Brentford, but not much more so than their previous coaches like Warburton or Smith. I tend think their results are more to do with them being a well run club with an established model (which is nothing like ours) than any great input from the coach.

In terms of results, he literally can't hold a candle to someone like Warnock, or the Serbian guy Watford and Fulham used to get promoted.

Iv watched this thread grow every time we loose a game. Iv Have had a season ticket for 25 years and remember on freezing December nights loosing to Grimsby town at home 3-0 and charlton. We've come on a hell of a way from there.
I'm one who sits on a fence on a lot of views but enjoy reading everyone's views and opinions and respect them so hope i don't get too much stick....
I might be a bit bias but know Roy and have spoken to him on many occasions after bad games and individual bad performances. And the consensus I got was he was there to be a political face in a multi billion game around the world where he is well thought of and highly regarded manager in football which has helped palace grow as a commercial asset. When I brought up players like benteke and Sakho it was almost like his answer was... I have to play them even if his body language told me he didn't want them anywhere near the team.
When he plays very solid defensive games and picks up points steadily he get ridiculed for boring football. So when he changes and trys the offensive game we get hit hard and look dreadful. But some times I think the players need to look harder and honestly at themselves. I understand he is the manager and should be able to motive the talented group of players we have. But if anyone actually watched the game today you would see how many mistakes the players made in the final 1/3. No matter how much coaching or good management... you expect every single professional footballer to make a pass to a team mate in offensive areas. We didn't do it once . And I read there were a little players out of position but once they cross that line they have to give it everything ifbthe wear that short we wish we could all wear so proudly but theae days money pays the bills and a lot ifbthe players just don't give a a toss.

Honestly I don't know what the answer is . I think as a tactically defensive coach Roy is up there as a top coach but I think the board have not supported him in bringing the players that he's actually wanted. He told me he desperately wanted 2 strikers 3 windows in a row and still the board didn't get who he wanted. I know when results don't honour waybthe manager is the one we all look at but we as a club are as good as we will ever be.. I am an ambitious guy and dream of winning the prem bit lets be real for a minute. I remember West ham fans hating bfs 6years ago but every year they stayed up in 'the promised land they in my opinion haven't improved but have spend 100s of millions . Does everyone remember when we got promoted how elated we were turning up watching our team play in the best league in the world buzzing every game even when we struggled. We need to get behind everyone at the club and some how create a buzz again i think we've all forgotten where we came from in 2010. I knowing hard but while he's in charge lets just support Roy. He really does have palaces best interests at heart .