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.TUX. 24 May 18 5.56pm
Originally posted by chris123 No not teetering - concentrating on Europe. Well bud, it's looking like Deutsche Bank 'aint concentrating enough Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

24 May 18 5.56pm

Originally posted by chris123

No not teetering - concentrating on Europe.

Well bud, it's looking like Deutsche Bank 'aint concentrating enough

Buy Litecoin.

steeleye20 Croydon 24 May 18 9.27pm
IMO Brexit is either:- 1) Finished. or 2) Subject to a transition period of 7-10 years. Preferably the first option. The way to fund the NHS future is to scrap brexit altogether.

steeleye20

Croydon 24 May 18 9.27pm

IMO Brexit is either:-

1) Finished.

2) Subject to a transition period of 7-10 years.

Preferably the first option.

The way to fund the NHS future is to scrap brexit altogether.

Tom-the-eagle Croydon 24 May 18 9.31pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 IMO Brexit is either:- 1) Finished. or 2) Subject to a transition period of 7-10 years. Preferably the first option. The way to fund the NHS future is to scrap brexit altogether. By all accounts the NHS is a financial bottomless pit. This is before we have left the EU, nothing to do with Brexit "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 24 May 18 9.31pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

IMO Brexit is either:-

1) Finished.

2) Subject to a transition period of 7-10 years.

Preferably the first option.

The way to fund the NHS future is to scrap brexit altogether.

By all accounts the NHS is a financial bottomless pit. This is before we have left the EU, nothing to do with Brexit

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

Penge Eagle Beckenham 24 May 18 9.38pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 IMO Brexit is either:- 1) Finished. or 2) Subject to a transition period of 7-10 years. Preferably the first option. The way to fund the NHS future is to scrap brexit altogether. What if the £300m a week actually went to the NHS. Would you be happy?

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 24 May 18 9.38pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

IMO Brexit is either:-

1) Finished.

2) Subject to a transition period of 7-10 years.

Preferably the first option.

The way to fund the NHS future is to scrap brexit altogether.

What if the £300m a week actually went to the NHS. Would you be happy?

chris123 hove actually 24 May 18 9.44pm
Originally posted by .TUX. Well bud, it's looking like Deutsche Bank 'aint concentrating enough Withdrawing from US and Asia and concentrating on Europe still!!

chris123

hove actually 24 May 18 9.44pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

Well bud, it's looking like Deutsche Bank 'aint concentrating enough

Withdrawing from US and Asia and concentrating on Europe still!!

.TUX. 24 May 18 9.53pm
Originally posted by chris123 Withdrawing from US and Asia and concentrating on Europe still!! Okey dokey Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

24 May 18 9.53pm

Originally posted by chris123

Withdrawing from US and Asia and concentrating on Europe still!!

Okey dokey

Buy Litecoin.

steeleye20 Croydon 24 May 18 10.00pm
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle By all accounts the NHS is a financial bottomless pit. This is before we have left the EU, nothing to do with Brexit No if brexit is cancelled there are huge savings. The future financial need of the NHS, increase in general taxation by 3p by 2030, can certainly be met by scrapping brexit.

steeleye20

Croydon 24 May 18 10.00pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

By all accounts the NHS is a financial bottomless pit. This is before we have left the EU, nothing to do with Brexit

No if brexit is cancelled there are huge savings.

The future financial need of the NHS, increase in general taxation by 3p by 2030, can certainly be met by scrapping brexit.

.TUX. 24 May 18 10.11pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 No if brexit is cancelled there are huge savings. The future financial need of the NHS, increase in general taxation by 3p by 2030, can certainly be met by scrapping brexit. If the EU happened to capitulate under the ever-increasing weight of it's debt, would you still wish to be a part of it? Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

24 May 18 10.11pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

No if brexit is cancelled there are huge savings.

The future financial need of the NHS, increase in general taxation by 3p by 2030, can certainly be met by scrapping brexit.

If the EU happened to capitulate under the ever-increasing weight of it's debt, would you still wish to be a part of it?

Buy Litecoin.

steeleye20 Croydon 24 May 18 10.15pm
Originally posted by .TUX. If the EU happened to capitulate under the ever-increasing weight of it's debt, would you still wish to be a part of it? I don't agree with huge debt but the UK is surely one of the worst offenders. That's the way the world is, hope it doesn't all backfire.

steeleye20

Croydon 24 May 18 10.15pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

If the EU happened to capitulate under the ever-increasing weight of it's debt, would you still wish to be a part of it?

I don't agree with huge debt but the UK is surely one of the worst offenders.

That's the way the world is, hope it doesn't all backfire.

.TUX. 24 May 18 10.20pm
A yes or no will do. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

24 May 18 10.20pm

A yes or no will do.

Buy Litecoin.

Badger11 Beckenham 26 May 18 11.31am
Originally posted by .TUX. Keep an eye on Italy. (I did) One for you Tux as you seem up on this stuff. Financial Times is reporting that the markets in Italy and Spain are in a bit of turmoil investors are dumping bonds. (sorry no link) Sounds like its concerns over politics and the economy. I hope this is a temporary blip because it doesn't help anyone if Italy or Spain do a Greece, we all suffer in some way. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 26 May 18 11.31am

Originally posted by .TUX.

Keep an eye on Italy.

(I did)

One for you Tux as you seem up on this stuff.

Financial Times is reporting that the markets in Italy and Spain are in a bit of turmoil investors are dumping bonds. (sorry no link) Sounds like its concerns over politics and the economy.

I hope this is a temporary blip because it doesn't help anyone if Italy or Spain do a Greece, we all suffer in some way.

One more point

.TUX. 26 May 18 12.31pm
Originally posted by Badger11 (I did) One for you Tux as you seem up on this stuff. Financial Times is reporting that the markets in Italy and Spain are in a bit of turmoil investors are dumping bonds. (sorry no link) Sounds like its concerns over politics and the economy. I hope this is a temporary blip because it doesn't help anyone if Italy or Spain do a Greece, we all suffer in some way. Better late than never Due to the problems(?) there Moody's have threatened Italy with a downgrade. The S&P's review of Deutsche Bank is expected any day now which should (99.9%) be a definite downgrade. This is not good news but no doubt Draghi & Co will do their best to salvage the situation (with other people's money).....zzzzzzzzz. And no, this is far from ''a blip'' imo, it's an economic cancer slowly eating it's way through an artificial/fake/phoney/ponzi system. Buckle up. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

26 May 18 12.31pm

Originally posted by Badger11

(I did)

One for you Tux as you seem up on this stuff.

Financial Times is reporting that the markets in Italy and Spain are in a bit of turmoil investors are dumping bonds. (sorry no link) Sounds like its concerns over politics and the economy.

I hope this is a temporary blip because it doesn't help anyone if Italy or Spain do a Greece, we all suffer in some way.

Better late than never

Due to the problems(?) there Moody's have threatened Italy with a downgrade.
The S&P's review of Deutsche Bank is expected any day now which should (99.9%) be a definite downgrade. This is not good news but no doubt Draghi & Co will do their best to salvage the situation (with other people's money).....zzzzzzzzz.
And no, this is far from ''a blip'' imo, it's an economic cancer slowly eating it's way through an artificial/fake/phoney/ponzi system.

Buckle up.

Buy Litecoin.

pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 26 May 18 6.56pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle What if the £300m a week actually went to the NHS. Would you be happy? That's a lie, the guy you came up with the slogan has even admitted it. A more realistic figure is the £40,000,000,000 Buffon and JRM have cost us just to merely leave the EU "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

pefwin

Where you have to have an English ... 26 May 18 6.56pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

What if the £300m a week actually went to the NHS. Would you be happy?

That's a lie, the guy you came up with the slogan has even admitted it.

A more realistic figure is the £40,000,000,000 Buffon and JRM have cost us just to merely leave the EU

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

Sportyteacher London 27 May 18 9.55am
Still not convinced that clean Brexit break will happen. The Cabinet is clearly torn in half regarding where to go....much like the rest of Parliament. I wonder how many Brexiteers voted for a minimum £40+bn EU divorce bill? Finally, I feel that this is much more about Bojo and Michael Gove's political aspirations than it is about truly serving 'the will of the people'. Bojo would love to be sacked so that he could establish leadership campaign against Theresa - he'd love to be imagined as the firefighter coming in to deal with the Brexit blaze...when all along he has been the arsonist.

Sportyteacher

London 27 May 18 9.55am

Still not convinced that clean Brexit break will happen. The Cabinet is clearly torn in half regarding where to go....much like the rest of Parliament. I wonder how many Brexiteers voted for a minimum £40+bn EU divorce bill?

Finally, I feel that this is much more about Bojo and Michael Gove's political aspirations than it is about truly serving 'the will of the people'. Bojo would love to be sacked so that he could establish leadership campaign against Theresa - he'd love to be imagined as the firefighter coming in to deal with the Brexit blaze...when all along he has been the arsonist.

Badger11 Beckenham 27 May 18 10.12am
The Electoral Commission has been given funds for next year's European elections even though we will have left by then. They say this is a contingency and they do not expect to spend the money. It's a pity that David Cameron didn't have the same foresight and made contingency plans in the unlikely event that the UK voted to leave. Much could have been accomplished if the civil servants had started their planning before the referendum. When I worked at Barclays we created contingency plans for the UK joining the euro, Greece leaving the euro various other countries joining the EU or the euro. It was just commonsense. I don't think there is anything sinister in this although the papers are trying to spin it that way. There again JRM buying property in London means he is launching a campaign to oust the PM! I think the silly season has arrived early. Edited by Badger11 (27 May 2018 10.13am) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 27 May 18 10.12am

The Electoral Commission has been given funds for next year's European elections even though we will have left by then. They say this is a contingency and they do not expect to spend the money.

It's a pity that David Cameron didn't have the same foresight and made contingency plans in the unlikely event that the UK voted to leave. Much could have been accomplished if the civil servants had started their planning before the referendum.

When I worked at Barclays we created contingency plans for the UK joining the euro, Greece leaving the euro various other countries joining the EU or the euro. It was just commonsense.

I don't think there is anything sinister in this although the papers are trying to spin it that way. There again JRM buying property in London means he is launching a campaign to oust the PM! I think the silly season has arrived early.

Edited by Badger11 (27 May 2018 10.13am)

One more point

Matov 27 May 18 2.26pm
Difficult at the moment to seperate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to Brexit. The EU have form for saying one thing behind closed doors and then spinning it in completely the opposite way to the press. The EU want to keep us in the fold for a variety of reasons and helping fuel chaos is one way of them achieving it. June is a key month here and I suspect that by the end of it, we may have at least a semblence of a clearer picture but my gut instinct is that it boils down to money. And Italy. That is the real challenge for the EU at the moment. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

27 May 18 2.26pm

Difficult at the moment to seperate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to Brexit. The EU have form for saying one thing behind closed doors and then spinning it in completely the opposite way to the press.

The EU want to keep us in the fold for a variety of reasons and helping fuel chaos is one way of them achieving it.

June is a key month here and I suspect that by the end of it, we may have at least a semblence of a clearer picture but my gut instinct is that it boils down to money.

And Italy. That is the real challenge for the EU at the moment.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Stirlingsays 27 May 18 5.04pm
'Brexit means Brexit'. Except when you have remainers in charge. We could be seeing the Tories badly damage themselves and rekindle Ukip. Unless they sort it out Ukip will be coming back strong because lots of Tory voters and some Labour ones will feel they have been lied too. Ultimately perhaps that will only be positive for Corbyn.....though I might be wrong about that as there are many northern leavers who vote Labour. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2018 5.07pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

27 May 18 5.04pm

'Brexit means Brexit'.

Except when you have remainers in charge.

We could be seeing the Tories badly damage themselves and rekindle Ukip.

Unless they sort it out Ukip will be coming back strong because lots of Tory voters and some Labour ones will feel they have been lied too.

Ultimately perhaps that will only be positive for Corbyn.....though I might be wrong about that as there are many northern leavers who vote Labour.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2018 5.07pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Sportyteacher London 28 May 18 8.11am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays 'Brexit means Brexit'. Except when you have remainers in charge. We could be seeing the Tories badly damage themselves and rekindle Ukip. Unless they sort it out Ukip will be coming back strong because lots of Tory voters and some Labour ones will feel they have been lied too. Ultimately perhaps that will only be positive for Corbyn.....though I might be wrong about that as there are many northern leavers who vote Labour. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2018 5.07pm) UKIP is finished - wiped out within recent local elections etc. They have proven to be a one-trick/leader pony under Farage who is now relishing life within 'celebritydom'. EU was always going to make negotiations as tough as possible given that too generous a deal would open the floodgates for other countries to seek a similar appetite to leave. The reality is that Brexit Govt ministers had NO evidence of impact or proper policy platform in place as was revealed come the result of the Referendum. Since then, it has been decision making made on the hoof.

Sportyteacher

London 28 May 18 8.11am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

'Brexit means Brexit'.

Except when you have remainers in charge.

We could be seeing the Tories badly damage themselves and rekindle Ukip.

Unless they sort it out Ukip will be coming back strong because lots of Tory voters and some Labour ones will feel they have been lied too.

Ultimately perhaps that will only be positive for Corbyn.....though I might be wrong about that as there are many northern leavers who vote Labour.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2018 5.07pm)

UKIP is finished - wiped out within recent local elections etc. They have proven to be a one-trick/leader pony under Farage who is now relishing life within 'celebritydom'.

EU was always going to make negotiations as tough as possible given that too generous a deal would open the floodgates for other countries to seek a similar appetite to leave. The reality is that Brexit Govt ministers had NO evidence of impact or proper policy platform in place as was revealed come the result of the Referendum. Since then, it has been decision making made on the hoof.

.TUX. 29 May 18 6.14pm
This weeks 'Arrogant C-nt of the Week' award goes to the European Budget Commissioner, German Guenther Oettinger, for this little gem today........... ''The negative development of the markets will lead Italians not to vote much longer for the populist''. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

29 May 18 6.14pm

This weeks 'Arrogant C-nt of the Week' award goes to the European Budget Commissioner, German Guenther Oettinger, for this little gem today...........

''The negative development of the markets will lead Italians not to vote much longer for the populist''.

Buy Litecoin.

Stuk Top half 29 May 18 6.32pm
Originally posted by .TUX. This weeks 'Arrogant C-nt of the Week' award goes to the European Budget Commissioner, German Guenther Oettinger, for this little gem today........... ''The negative development of the markets will lead Italians not to vote much longer for the populist''. What a cock. If they go back to the polls those two populist parties will increase their votes. The EU is very lucky that France has such a rigged form of general elections. Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 29 May 18 6.32pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

This weeks 'Arrogant C-nt of the Week' award goes to the European Budget Commissioner, German Guenther Oettinger, for this little gem today...........

''The negative development of the markets will lead Italians not to vote much longer for the populist''.

What a cock. If they go back to the polls those two populist parties will increase their votes.

The EU is very lucky that France has such a rigged form of general elections.

Optimistic as ever

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