Yes. I'm asking those who want Roy sacked exactly who they think he could be replaced by that would improve the side. And yes, I'm asking because it isn't obvious to me that there is a feasible option out there.

Frank has done well at Brentford, but not much more so than their previous coaches like Warburton or Smith. I tend think their results are more to do with them being a well run club with an established model (which is nothing like ours) than any great input from the coach.

In terms of results, he literally can't hold a candle to someone like Warnock, or the Serbian guy Watford and Fulham used to get promoted.

Iv watched this thread grow every time we loose a game. Iv Have had a season ticket for 25 years and remember on freezing December nights loosing to Grimsby town at home 3-0 and charlton. We've come on a hell of a way from there.
I'm one who sits on a fence on a lot of views but enjoy reading everyone's views and opinions and respect them so hope i don't get too much stick....
I might be a bit bias but know Roy and have spoken to him on many occasions after bad games and individual bad performances. And the consensus I got was he was there to be a political face in a multi billion game around the world where he is well thought of and highly regarded manager in football which has helped palace grow as a commercial asset. When I brought up players like benteke and Sakho it was almost like his answer was... I have to play them even if his body language told me he didn't want them anywhere near the team.
When he plays very solid defensive games and picks up points steadily he get ridiculed for boring football. So when he changes and trys the offensive game we get hit hard and look dreadful. But some times I think the players need to look harder and honestly at themselves. I understand he is the manager and should be able to motive the talented group of players we have. But if anyone actually watched the game today you would see how many mistakes the players made in the final 1/3. No matter how much coaching or good management... you expect every single professional footballer to make a pass to a team mate in offensive areas. We didn't do it once . And I read there were a little players out of position but once they cross that line they have to give it everything ifbthe wear that short we wish we could all wear so proudly but theae days money pays the bills and a lot ifbthe players just don't give a a toss.

Honestly I don't know what the answer is . I think as a tactically defensive coach Roy is up there as a top coach but I think the board have not supported him in bringing the players that he's actually wanted. He told me he desperately wanted 2 strikers 3 windows in a row and still the board didn't get who he wanted. I know when results don't honour waybthe manager is the one we all look at but we as a club are as good as we will ever be.. I am an ambitious guy and dream of winning the prem bit lets be real for a minute. I remember West ham fans hating bfs 6years ago but every year they stayed up in 'the promised land they in my opinion haven't improved but have spend 100s of millions . Does everyone remember when we got promoted how elated we were turning up watching our team play in the best league in the world buzzing every game even when we struggled. We need to get behind everyone at the club and some how create a buzz again i think we've all forgotten where we came from in 2010. I knowing hard but while he's in charge lets just support Roy. He really does have palaces best interests at heart .

I suspect not many supporters expect us to get anything from the Leicester game so a defeat, unless it is substantial, will not be the catalyst for large swathes joining the 'Roy out' camp.

A defeat against Leicester followed by another defeat against rock-bottom Sheff Utd and the 'Roy out' camp will be significantly swelled with nostrils flaring like an angry bullock.HOL will be awash with vesuvian eruptions.

Exactly, Nearly half the players in our first team squad are too old to cope with the demands of premier league football week-in week-out. They struggle to recover; they struggle with injuries and they're all a yard slower than they were a year ago.

Hodgson doesn't help things by keep packing the first XI with these players and expecting them to perform.

As to when he will go, it will be
- before the New Year (if SP has someone lined up who's prepared to accept a minimal January transfer budget) or
- when/if we fall into the relegation zone or
- in the summer (unless there is a remarkable change in our fortunes and performances, which is not looking very likely) if Hodgson manages to keep us afloat till the end of the season.
Which of these? Your guess is as good as mine.

Do I want him to go? Ask me after the Sheff Utd game if he's still here then.

This is sounding very much like Project Fear.

I know after years of supporting palace its difficult to be optimistic. But we are an established club in the richest league in the world.

We represent a great opportunity.

OK, so from the many posts so far, a handful have lived in the real world long enough to suggest a replacement for the man they want sacked.

Suggestions include:

1. Internal appointment (Derry, McCarthy).
2. Thomas Tuchel. Last seasons losing champions league finalist.

and also

3. jeeagles grandmother.

I'm not sure which of these suggestions is most comical to be honest.

Look, I don't enjoy watching Palace grind out results playing anti-football, or getting stuffed when they even try to play a little, but thats the real world. We've hit the glass ceiling. This is as high as we can ever, ever get unless something big changes in the non-football side of the club.

The point I am trying to make is that there isn't a coach out there who can break that ceiling for us. Whoever we could get would be not produce a side any less flawed than Roy does - they may be flawed in different ways, but that's all.