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Originally posted by silvertop
Hmm. What he says is all fact save the opinion that the anti-EU lobby blame many problems that are of our own making on the EU. He has failed to give specific examples of this. You have failed to give any examples where there is a clear line between EU act and our misfortune. Sad, as I am sure there are numerous instances of both and this pointless discussion could rumble on for a few hundred pages. The largest specific problem the EU created was unfettered, illegal immigration. There was no adequate attention given to external EU borders. Countries like Greece and Italy were just left to foot the bill of EU decisions by themselves. Hardly a supportive EU. Illegal immigrants will cost billions to deal with - if they are ever dealt with at all. When you consider it - no immigrants came straight to the UK - unless they could afford a direct flight. They came through other EU countries that failed to deal with them adequately. Edited by ASCPFC (31 Jul 2018 11.40am)
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Originally posted by europalace
That's entirely correct it was Mrs May as Home Secretary who decided not to use that option. The EU is more democratic in practice than us as it reacts to pressure from its members. Consequently we are seeing these changes to freedom of movement, and especially immigration where countries are determining their own quotas and have been reducing already. How ironic that the UK will probably be the only country left with ever increased immigration.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
That's entirely correct it was Mrs May as Home Secretary who decided not to use that option. Consequently we are seeing these changes to freedom of movement, and especially immigration where countries are determining their own quotas and have been reducing already. How ironic that the UK will probably be the only country left with ever increased immigration.
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For those who would vote Brexit “for their kids”, please remember 73% of 18-24 year olds voted remain.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Cheap EU labour migration contributes to the damage of young British workers’ job and home owning opportunities, training and pay. That is a fact and I’m not happy about witnessing it. Although not solely, i agree. Edited by .TUX. (31 Jul 2018 6.03pm)
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Originally posted by big_palace_fan
For those who would vote Brexit “for their kids”, please remember 73% of 18-24 year olds voted remain. When you consider the points made by 'Rudi', they're obviously stupid.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Cheap EU labour migration contributes to the damage of young British workers’ job and home owning opportunities, training and pay. That is a fact and I’m not happy about witnessing it.
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Originally posted by big_palace_fan
For those who would vote Brexit “for their kids”, please remember 73% of 18-24 year olds voted remain. Haha. Yeah...the same “kids” that have one through the brainwashing of University system.
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Originally posted by europalace
Really,because I drive a lorry and deliver to a lot of supermarket depots.
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Originally posted by Daz.CPFC
Haha. Yeah...the same “kids” that have one through the brainwashing of University system.
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Originally posted by elgrande
Really,because I drive a lorry and deliver to a lot of supermarket depots. Many EU citizens who live in the UK also have young families and they manage just fine. What's the problem for the equivalent British? I think it's that they expect too much too soon rather than plan long term. I've lived and worked in several other EU countries and what I've experienced is that young people don't have the same material demands as their peers in the UK. For example, there's no big demand to buy property, people generally rent until their 30's or 40s and have a nice life doing so. They don't expect to have fancy car, just something basic as a means of transport. Plenty of other similar differences in expectations which makes them much happier as they get less disappointed. Edited by europalace (31 Jul 2018 7.30pm)
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Originally posted by europalace
As we know, a huge portion don't. A portion that affects the lives of many who were are already here. Funny that?
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Originally posted by steeleye20
There are no fools like old leave fools. Desperate clutching at straws. Perhaps they will tell us how not having anyone to pick fruit and vegetables for us, can impact on youngsters job and home prospects. The youngsters clearly do not. Serve the old codgers right if they starve. Yeah, the fruit rotted on the trees and the vegetables lay decomposing in the fields before we joined the EU. To be honest, I don't know how we as a country survived, let alone prospered, before Europe.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Would any of the leave elderly brexit experts care to tell us how the army will stockpile fresh fruit and vegetables? Do they realise that fresh fruit and veg are essential to our diet, not when frozen thank you. Although leave yearn for Dad's Army and digging for victory against the EU we are not actually going to war (sorry about that leave). Did anybody think from leave that fresh food supplies could be a threat, or was it another thing that they just never even considered at all, just their selfishness. Like the whole brexit fiasco.
One of the very best things about Brexit is how it so utterly pisses off people like you.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Would any of the leave elderly brexit experts care to tell us how the army will stockpile fresh fruit and vegetables? Do they realise that fresh fruit and veg are essential to our diet, not when frozen thank you. Although leave yearn for Dad's Army and digging for victory against the EU we are not actually going to war (sorry about that leave). Did anybody think from leave that fresh food supplies could be a threat, or was it another thing that they just never even considered at all, just their selfishness. Like the whole brexit fiasco.
You're too bright to keep falling for this (propaganda) crap.
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
One of the very best things about Brexit is how it so utterly pisses off people like you.
It was also the best thing about Trump winning.....I mean I'm not a republican but god.....when you see who were most annoyed about Trump winning....You just knew that Trump was a necessary brake on madness.
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Originally posted by .TUX.
You're too bright to keep falling for this (propaganda) crap. Propaganda it is not.
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