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matt_himself Matataland 30 Apr 14 3.34pm
Quote silvertop at 30 Apr 2014 2.05pm Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 10.12am Quote silvertop at 30 Apr 2014 10.11am Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 8.34am Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 8.25am Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 8.22am Quote The White Horse at 30 Apr 2014 12.02am I imagine nickgusset was expecting an argument from the right, not the centre left. Nice to be on the side of the racists and homophobes. Pathetic. Labelling all UKIP supporters as racist and whatever homophobic means these days is lazy and cheap. I sometimes wonder if you may have autism as you don't seem to get irony or sarcasm. There is many a true word said in jest. Also, why are you so punchy? I thought you deplored personal remarks on here. Do you have a sympathy period for when your missus is on the blob in order to understand and show solidarity with the female condition? I must confess that I view UKIP voters as elderly people who still call black people "them coloureds" and who refuse to have their sink unblocked by a Polish plumber. I am not saying that is what they are, as that would be lazy and cheap. I am only saying that this is my personal perception. And that, my friend, is prejudice. Yes, indeed. Rather like the perception that liberal voters have no clear political orientation and are all beardy, sandal wearing homosexuals. However, I am prepared to be educated if I am presented with good evidence indicating that UKIP enjoy a broader support accross the demographic in terms of age, ethnicity and so on. Do you have any? I always had liberals down as bisexuals as opposed homosexuals because I was under the impression that, to them, sexuality is about feelings rather than labels. On the other note, I posted a link from the Huffington Post on the first page of this thread which provides polling statistics. Given that pollin companies use tested scientific methods from all ages and genders, that should give you comfort that there is, at the moment, a wide spread support for UKIP. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 30 Apr 14 3.34pm

Quote silvertop at 30 Apr 2014 2.05pm

Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 10.12am

Quote silvertop at 30 Apr 2014 10.11am

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Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 8.25am

Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 8.22am

Quote The White Horse at 30 Apr 2014 12.02am

I imagine nickgusset was expecting an argument from the right, not the centre left. Nice to be on the side of the racists and homophobes.

Pathetic. Labelling all UKIP supporters as racist and whatever homophobic means these days is lazy and cheap.

I sometimes wonder if you may have autism as you don't seem to get irony or sarcasm.

There is many a true word said in jest.

Also, why are you so punchy? I thought you deplored personal remarks on here. Do you have a sympathy period for when your missus is on the blob in order to understand and show solidarity with the female condition?

I must confess that I view UKIP voters as elderly people who still call black people "them coloureds" and who refuse to have their sink unblocked by a Polish plumber. I am not saying that is what they are, as that would be lazy and cheap. I am only saying that this is my personal perception.

And that, my friend, is prejudice.

Yes, indeed. Rather like the perception that liberal voters have no clear political orientation and are all beardy, sandal wearing homosexuals.

However, I am prepared to be educated if I am presented with good evidence indicating that UKIP enjoy a broader support accross the demographic in terms of age, ethnicity and so on. Do you have any?

I always had liberals down as bisexuals as opposed homosexuals because I was under the impression that, to them, sexuality is about feelings rather than labels.

On the other note, I posted a link from the Huffington Post on the first page of this thread which provides polling statistics. Given that pollin companies use tested scientific methods from all ages and genders, that should give you comfort that there is, at the moment, a wide spread support for UKIP.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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matt_himself Matataland 30 Apr 14 3.39pm
I read the TUSC website at lunchtime. What a read! Interesting that they have no manifesto, just a bunch of lefty cliche aims, proclaim solidarity with all and sundry, will fight oppression of all and sundry and have provided no clues as to how they will pay for their wacko ideas. I am really looking forward to understanding their energy policy as they say they will slash carbon emissions but decline to day how. And they call UKIP dangerous... "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 30 Apr 14 3.39pm

I read the TUSC website at lunchtime.

What a read! Interesting that they have no manifesto, just a bunch of lefty cliche aims, proclaim solidarity with all and sundry, will fight oppression of all and sundry and have provided no clues as to how they will pay for their wacko ideas.

I am really looking forward to understanding their energy policy as they say they will slash carbon emissions but decline to day how.

And they call UKIP dangerous...

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Rubin 30 Apr 14 4.29pm
Quote Johnny Eagles at 30 Apr 2014 2.39pm UKIP are a protest party, plain and simple. I'm very likely to vote for them NOT because I think they have any worthwhile policies, but because I am fed up with the centrist, metropolitan consensus of the "major" parties. (Who, incidentally, are so "major" that they have fewer than half a million members between them, so if you want unrepresentative media representation it doesn't come much more unrepresentative than that!) Especially the Tory party who are an even worse bunch of charlatans than New Labour. The political class need a kick up the backside and I think voting UKIP will help deliver that. They might well be full of unsavoury characters and I wouldn't trust them to run a brothel let alone a country, but that's not the point. It's a protest vote, which I think is a perfectly legitimate political position to take. Good post, and my opinion on them. The whole political system needs a shakeup, and people realise that voting UKIP is the most likely way to make it happen.
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Quote Johnny Eagles at 30 Apr 2014 2.39pm

UKIP are a protest party, plain and simple.

I'm very likely to vote for them NOT because I think they have any worthwhile policies, but because I am fed up with the centrist, metropolitan consensus of the "major" parties. (Who, incidentally, are so "major" that they have fewer than half a million members between them, so if you want unrepresentative media representation it doesn't come much more unrepresentative than that!)

Especially the Tory party who are an even worse bunch of charlatans than New Labour.

The political class need a kick up the backside and I think voting UKIP will help deliver that.

They might well be full of unsavoury characters and I wouldn't trust them to run a brothel let alone a country, but that's not the point.

It's a protest vote, which I think is a perfectly legitimate political position to take.

Good post, and my opinion on them.

The whole political system needs a shakeup, and people realise that voting UKIP is the most likely way to make it happen.

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Kermit8 Hevon 30 Apr 14 4.40pm
Quote Rubin at 30 Apr 2014 4.29pm Quote Johnny Eagles at 30 Apr 2014 2.39pm UKIP are a protest party, plain and simple. I'm very likely to vote for them NOT because I think they have any worthwhile policies, but because I am fed up with the centrist, metropolitan consensus of the "major" parties. (Who, incidentally, are so "major" that they have fewer than half a million members between them, so if you want unrepresentative media representation it doesn't come much more unrepresentative than that!) Especially the Tory party who are an even worse bunch of charlatans than New Labour. The political class need a kick up the backside and I think voting UKIP will help deliver that. They might well be full of unsavoury characters and I wouldn't trust them to run a brothel let alone a country, but that's not the point. It's a protest vote, which I think is a perfectly legitimate political position to take. Good post, and my opinion on them. The whole political system needs a shakeup, and people realise that voting UKIP is the most likely way to make it happen. But it too many people thought like that then it could back-fire and they end up with 70 seats or something and then be part of a coalition. That's what happened with the National Socialists 1933. Legitimate votes got them into power after some horrendous economic times. I wonder how many of those were protest votes too? Personally, i will be protest voting for a more benign Party or independent candidate instead. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 30 Apr 14 4.40pm

Quote Rubin at 30 Apr 2014 4.29pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 30 Apr 2014 2.39pm

UKIP are a protest party, plain and simple.

Especially the Tory party who are an even worse bunch of charlatans than New Labour.

The political class need a kick up the backside and I think voting UKIP will help deliver that.

They might well be full of unsavoury characters and I wouldn't trust them to run a brothel let alone a country, but that's not the point.

It's a protest vote, which I think is a perfectly legitimate political position to take.

Good post, and my opinion on them.

The whole political system needs a shakeup, and people realise that voting UKIP is the most likely way to make it happen.

But it too many people thought like that then it could back-fire and they end up with 70 seats or something and then be part of a coalition.

That's what happened with the National Socialists 1933. Legitimate votes got them into power after some horrendous economic times. I wonder how many of those were protest votes too?

Personally, i will be protest voting for a more benign Party or independent candidate instead.

Big chest and massive boobs

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Apr 14 4.47pm
Cue the call for a none of the above option on voting cards.
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Shizzlehurst 30 Apr 14 4.47pm

Cue the call for a none of the above option on voting cards.

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Hoof Hearted 30 Apr 14 4.52pm
Everyone thought it was "fun" to vote for an Independent Mayor in Bristol wearing red trousers. The bloke has turned into a right cnut shutting roads on Sundays and enforcing restricted parking zones around the City. Be careful what you wish for.
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Hoof Hearted 30 Apr 14 4.52pm

Everyone thought it was "fun" to vote for an Independent Mayor in Bristol wearing red trousers.

The bloke has turned into a right cnut shutting roads on Sundays and enforcing restricted parking zones around the City.

Be careful what you wish for.

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Kermit8 Hevon 30 Apr 14 5.07pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 30 Apr 2014 4.52pm Everyone thought it was "fun" to vote for an Independent Mayor in Bristol wearing red trousers. The bloke has turned into a right cnut shutting roads on Sundays and enforcing restricted parking zones around the City. Be careful what you wish for. Are these the roads so that the kids can all come out and play in the street? Been a success I thought? Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 30 Apr 14 5.07pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 30 Apr 2014 4.52pm

Everyone thought it was "fun" to vote for an Independent Mayor in Bristol wearing red trousers.

The bloke has turned into a right cnut shutting roads on Sundays and enforcing restricted parking zones around the City.

Be careful what you wish for.

Are these the roads so that the kids can all come out and play in the street? Been a success I thought?

Big chest and massive boobs

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Johnny Eagles berlin 30 Apr 14 5.12pm
Quote Kermit8 at 30 Apr 2014 4.40pm Quote Rubin at 30 Apr 2014 4.29pm Quote Johnny Eagles at 30 Apr 2014 2.39pm UKIP are a protest party, plain and simple. I'm very likely to vote for them NOT because I think they have any worthwhile policies, but because I am fed up with the centrist, metropolitan consensus of the "major" parties. (Who, incidentally, are so "major" that they have fewer than half a million members between them, so if you want unrepresentative media representation it doesn't come much more unrepresentative than that!) Especially the Tory party who are an even worse bunch of charlatans than New Labour. The political class need a kick up the backside and I think voting UKIP will help deliver that. They might well be full of unsavoury characters and I wouldn't trust them to run a brothel let alone a country, but that's not the point. It's a protest vote, which I think is a perfectly legitimate political position to take. Good post, and my opinion on them. The whole political system needs a shakeup, and people realise that voting UKIP is the most likely way to make it happen. But it too many people thought like that then it could back-fire and they end up with 70 seats or something and then be part of a coalition. That's what happened with the National Socialists 1933. Legitimate votes got them into power after some horrendous economic times. I wonder how many of those were protest votes too? Personally, i will be protest voting for a more benign Party or independent candidate instead. You surely aren't seriously comparing UKIP to the Nazis? As for the 70 seats - the FPTP system makes it almost impossible for small parties to get many seats. One of the major flaws in the Weimar constitution was that it was much easier. ...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...
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berlin 30 Apr 14 5.12pm

Quote Kermit8 at 30 Apr 2014 4.40pm

Quote Rubin at 30 Apr 2014 4.29pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 30 Apr 2014 2.39pm

UKIP are a protest party, plain and simple.

Especially the Tory party who are an even worse bunch of charlatans than New Labour.

The political class need a kick up the backside and I think voting UKIP will help deliver that.

They might well be full of unsavoury characters and I wouldn't trust them to run a brothel let alone a country, but that's not the point.

It's a protest vote, which I think is a perfectly legitimate political position to take.

Good post, and my opinion on them.

The whole political system needs a shakeup, and people realise that voting UKIP is the most likely way to make it happen.

But it too many people thought like that then it could back-fire and they end up with 70 seats or something and then be part of a coalition.

That's what happened with the National Socialists 1933. Legitimate votes got them into power after some horrendous economic times. I wonder how many of those were protest votes too?

Personally, i will be protest voting for a more benign Party or independent candidate instead.

You surely aren't seriously comparing UKIP to the Nazis?

As for the 70 seats - the FPTP system makes it almost impossible for small parties to get many seats. One of the major flaws in the Weimar constitution was that it was much easier.

...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 30 Apr 14 5.13pm
Quote Kermit8 at 30 Apr 2014 4.40pm Quote Rubin at 30 Apr 2014 4.29pm Quote Johnny Eagles at 30 Apr 2014 2.39pm UKIP are a protest party, plain and simple. I'm very likely to vote for them NOT because I think they have any worthwhile policies, but because I am fed up with the centrist, metropolitan consensus of the "major" parties. (Who, incidentally, are so "major" that they have fewer than half a million members between them, so if you want unrepresentative media representation it doesn't come much more unrepresentative than that!) Especially the Tory party who are an even worse bunch of charlatans than New Labour. The political class need a kick up the backside and I think voting UKIP will help deliver that. They might well be full of unsavoury characters and I wouldn't trust them to run a brothel let alone a country, but that's not the point. It's a protest vote, which I think is a perfectly legitimate political position to take. Good post, and my opinion on them. The whole political system needs a shakeup, and people realise that voting UKIP is the most likely way to make it happen. But it too many people thought like that then it could back-fire and they end up with 70 seats or something and then be part of a coalition. That's what happened with the National Socialists 1933. Legitimate votes got them into power after some horrendous economic times. I wonder how many of those were protest votes too? Personally, i will be protest voting for a more benign Party or independent candidate instead. If you take out the Jewish thing and the insistence on invading other countries, National Socialism wasn't a bad idea. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 30 Apr 14 5.13pm

Quote Kermit8 at 30 Apr 2014 4.40pm

Quote Rubin at 30 Apr 2014 4.29pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 30 Apr 2014 2.39pm

UKIP are a protest party, plain and simple.

Especially the Tory party who are an even worse bunch of charlatans than New Labour.

The political class need a kick up the backside and I think voting UKIP will help deliver that.

They might well be full of unsavoury characters and I wouldn't trust them to run a brothel let alone a country, but that's not the point.

It's a protest vote, which I think is a perfectly legitimate political position to take.

Good post, and my opinion on them.

The whole political system needs a shakeup, and people realise that voting UKIP is the most likely way to make it happen.

But it too many people thought like that then it could back-fire and they end up with 70 seats or something and then be part of a coalition.

That's what happened with the National Socialists 1933. Legitimate votes got them into power after some horrendous economic times. I wonder how many of those were protest votes too?

Personally, i will be protest voting for a more benign Party or independent candidate instead.

If you take out the Jewish thing and the insistence on invading other countries, National Socialism wasn't a bad idea.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 30 Apr 14 5.18pm
Even 20th century Jewish oppression has it upsides Cucking. It spawned some wonderful musicals for example. Lend me a Tenor 31 May to 3 June 2017 John McIntosh Arts Centre London Oratory School SW6 1RX with Superfly in the chorus [Link]
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The sun always shines in Catford 30 Apr 14 5.18pm

Even 20th century Jewish oppression has it upsides Cucking. It spawned some wonderful musicals for example.

Lend me a Tenor

31 May to 3 June 2017

John McIntosh Arts Centre
London Oratory School
SW6 1RX

with Superfly in the chorus
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 30 Apr 14 5.23pm
None spring immediately to mind. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 30 Apr 14 5.23pm

None spring immediately to mind.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Buzzcock In an underground lair near Bright... 30 Apr 14 5.27pm
Got to hand it to Supes. What Tevye have as subject matter he gets a FOTR plug in. In the woods there grew a tree. And a fine fine tree was he.
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In an underground lair near Bright... 30 Apr 14 5.27pm

Got to hand it to Supes. What Tevye have as subject matter he gets a FOTR plug in.

In the woods there grew a tree. And a fine fine tree was he.

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