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Originally posted by DanH
So women should stay at home, clean the house, look after the kids and submit to their husband's sexual desires whenever he fancies it should they? That's a complete non sequitur.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Firstly, what I said was sociologically true, it isn't an opinion, you are just uneducated on the matter. Look into it if you don't believe me. If society was sensible it would recognise the realities of male/female interactions and look to avoid a situation where competition between males was increased because that means more mating losers. That's would be done for common sense reasons. This terrible terrible event is always going to happen, it's how often it occurs. But instead the soy rule at the moment and we have mindless ideologs like you. Besides like I said, watching his video I think this guy was using being an 'incel' as an excuse. He was very nihilistic and had significant social problems related to family. Anyway you can deny if you wish to and use silly slogans as that's your choice. In the meantime reality continues. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2021 12.05pm) In that case then I’m sure you won’t mind sharing the peer reviewed and sociologically accepted research into this then so we can all educate ourselves to your esteemed level. What you’ve put reads like someone who swallowed a Jordan Peterson book. So how do we reduce competition between males? Tell women to be less choosy and career focussed and do their duty and be a quiet and dutiful wife incase an angry, sexually unfulfilled bloke decides to go round shooting innocent people?
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Originally posted by DanH
1. stop flooding Europe with young men 2. Incentivise women to stay with the father of whatever kids they have. 3. Greater financial penalties for runaway dads/ and bigger dole for single mums who can identify what taxpayer they had kids with. An invisible dad = less accountability to the taxpayer.
Read the story below and ask yourself why the number of Incels is on the march ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Aug 2021 12.55pm)
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Originally posted by DanH
In that case then I’m sure you won’t mind sharing the peer reviewed and sociologically accepted research into this then so we can all educate ourselves to your esteemed level. What you’ve put reads like someone who swallowed a Jordan Peterson book.
You're just displaying your ignorance here. Firstly Jordan Peterson is highly qualified in that field...secondly it's not as though he's an outlier, you have lefties like Brett Weinstein and his wife communicating the same accepted decades old research. They aren't making it up as they go along. They are simply brave enough to talk about this science in an environment that no longer wishes to hear inconvenient truths. I get fed up with lazy one or two sentence posters asking me to research stuff. Should scientists research gravity for flat earthers? I've had this loads of times and it makes no difference....Your beliefs are emotional rather than rational. If you were serious about your beliefs matching reality instead of ideology then you'd already know this. Your problem is that you have been indoctrinated into ideologies of how you want society to be that don't relate to human nature.....Communism (and no I'm not saying you're a communist) had the same problem of its ideologies giving worse results and then denying it.....even now its adherents refuse to take any responsibility. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2021 1.06pm)
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Originally posted by DanH
So how do we reduce competition between males? Tell women to be less choosy and career focussed and do their duty and be a quiet and dutiful wife incase an angry, sexually unfulfilled bloke decides to go round shooting innocent people?
These are realities.....suddenly I'm asked to come up with solutions when none of my beliefs caused the problem. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2021 1.10pm)
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
Why should mr Jones, the taxpayer, pay to raise the kids of Chad & Tyrone ? Mr Jones is single & childless. Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Aug 2021 10.04am) Does that really need to be explained to you?
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
These are realities.....suddenly I'm asked to come up with solutions when none of my beliefs caused the problem. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2021 1.10pm) Your ‘beliefs’ don’t seem to give women any say in what they want to do or how they want to live their lives.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Does that really need to be explained to you? Explain it to the Sociologists. They have shown that kids that grow up without a dad often suffer much disadvantage....statistically speaking. our Plymouth Shooter or the epidemic of London stabbings, for example.
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Originally posted by DanH
Your ‘beliefs’ don’t seem to give women any say in what they want to do or how they want to live their lives. I wouldn't say that's true at all....in fact I don't know where you got that from. I'm certainly a social conservative but it's all about extent. Anyway, the facts are that women in the fifties registered more contentment in their lives than modern women today. That reality was revealed some time ago. The excesses of feminism haven't improved the lives of most working class women......it's mainly been for the benefit of middle class sharp elbowed ones....that's not most women. Many women don't agree with or aspire to feministic ideals.....it was forced onto society by elites....progressive idealogs like you and economic capitalists who wanted more women in the workforce because increasing consumerism and failing economics demanded more than one wage families. I'm not against some of the improvements early feminism had in bringing more freedoms. However, unlike you I'm not in denial over the negatives.....the worsened statistics on social outcomes are there for all to see. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2021 4.06pm)
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I wouldn't say that's true at all....in fact I don't know where you got that from. I'm certainly a social conservative but it's all about extent. Anyway, the facts are that women in the fifties registered more contentment in their lives than modern women today. That reality was revealed some time ago. The excesses of feminism haven't improved the lives of most working class women......it's mainly been for the benefit of middle class sharp elbowed ones....that's not most women. Many women don't agree with or aspire to feministic ideals.....it was forced onto society by elites....progressive idealogs like you and economic capitalists who wanted more women in the workforce because increasing consumerism and failing economics demanded more than one wage families. I'm not against some of the improvements early feminism had in bringing more freedoms. However, unlike you I'm not in denial over the negatives.....the worsened statistics on social outcomes are there for all to see. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2021 4.06pm) in the 1950's it was uncommon to see drunken women rolling about in the gutter, puking, fighting and covered in tattoes. In that time , a woman cared about her reputation. It affected her success in the marriage market. Today women do not care a jot. the West has gone to pot. Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Aug 2021 6.34pm)
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
Explain it to the Sociologists. They have shown that kids that grow up without a dad often suffer much disadvantage....statistically speaking. our Plymouth Shooter or the epidemic of London stabbings, for example. Which has nothing to do with your question!
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
in the 1950's it was uncommon to see drunken women rolling about in the gutter, puking, fighting and covered in tattoes. In that time , a woman cared about her reputation. It affected her success in the marriage market. Today women do not care a jot. the West has gone to pot. Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Aug 2021 6.34pm) There are whole books that can be written and probably have been on this topic. Anyone with an appreciation of history can certainly see how the feministic and unrealistic messaging given to today's girls bares little resemblance to what's likely to give them the most chance of happiness in life compared to the past.
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
in the 1950's it was uncommon to see drunken women rolling about in the gutter, puking, fighting and covered in tattoes. In that time , a woman cared about her reputation. It affected her success in the marriage market. Today women do not care a jot. the West has gone to pot. Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Aug 2021 6.34pm) If you think women shouldn’t be allowed to go out and enjoy themselves how they wish then you should check out the guys who have just rolled into Kabul. Should be right up your street.
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
in the 1950's it was uncommon to see drunken women rolling about in the gutter, puking, fighting and covered in tattoes. In that time , a woman cared about her reputation. It affected her success in the marriage market. Today women do not care a jot. the West has gone to pot. Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Aug 2021 6.34pm) CROYDON
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
There are whole books that can be written and probably have been on this topic. Anyone with an appreciation of history can certainly see how the feministic and unrealistic messaging given to today's girls bares little resemblance to what's likely to give them the most chance of happiness in life compared to the past. Just listen to yourself. Most women these days would eat you alive for some of the things you have posted on here.
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
in the 1950's it was uncommon to see drunken women rolling about in the gutter, puking, fighting and covered in tattoes. In that time , a woman cared about her reputation. It affected her success in the marriage market. Today women do not care a jot. the West has gone to pot. Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Aug 2021 6.34pm) It all started with giving them the vote and letting them go to work.
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Originally posted by DanH
Just listen to yourself. Most women these days would eat you alive for some of the things you have posted on here. Once again, this isn't an argument....it's just an emotional response. I'd enjoy those conversations as I've had them in the past and because it's a topic I know quite a lot about. I'd be able to show them timelines that would battle any overt feministic argument over improvements in their lives. A lot of them are indoctrinated like yourself because the messaging has been from a little girl....like a religion. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2021 7.47pm)
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Once again, this isn't an argument....it's just an emotional response. I'd enjoy those conversations as I've had them in the past and because it's a topic I know quite a lot about. I'd be able to show them timelines that would battle any overt feministic argument over improvements in their lives. A lot of them are indoctrinated like yourself because the messaging has been from a little girl....like a religion. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2021 7.47pm) You are just insufferable aren’t you. Is there any subject that you don’t think you know a lot about? Imagine having the arrogance to think you know more about women’s happiness and their lives than actual women themselves. Edited by DanH (16 Aug 2021 7.50pm)
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Most women wouldn’t give you five minutes of their time by the way. Which is probably much longer than you could give them.
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Originally posted by DanH
You are just insufferable aren’t you. Is there any subject that you don’t think you know a lot about? Imagine having the arrogance to think you know more about women’s happiness and their lives than actual women themselves. Edited by DanH (16 Aug 2021 7.50pm) Some might say that it's your ignorance that is 'insufferable'. Once again tea maker this isn't an opinion but comes from studies taken on happiness levels between the decades....it's factual....they were happier in the fifties and even into the seventies. Something else you apparently don't know....yet you had an opinion didn't you.
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