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 Tickled pink  Cornwall 27 Dec 20 11.47am |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Over summer there were people screaming that we need a full overhaul. In reality we only needed about 3. We've had Eze, Clyne, Batshuayi, and Ferguson. Eze has made a difference, but he's not been played in his correct position yet. Roy's completely overlooked plenty of talent, plus has only got 6 months left. Who'd invest in an underperforming manager effectively working his notice period? Especially when the manager has repeatedly shown that he wont use the players he's been given. Name these players please and where they would help with scoring and defending.
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 27 Dec 20 11.51am |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Looking at the squad thats correct. But its not an excuse for the team on the pitch yesterday. There's no excuse for being run off the park with a team with 1 less player than us. How would you have played Villa if you were the manager?
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| southnorwoodhill 27 Dec 20 11.53am |
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
How many of our players would Villa use, Zaha, Eze, Shlupp, Townsend, Riedewald and Ayew, does that not inform you of our problems, all the rest against strong squads will struggle. Not the fault of our manager. It's not what you've got it's how you use it, as any decent chef would tell you.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Dec 20 11.58am |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Looking at the squad thats correct. But its not an excuse for the team on the pitch yesterday. There's no excuse for being run off the park with a team with 1 less player than us. When one has a numerical advanrage in terms of players on the pitch, the common wisdom is to make the pitch big, move the ball quicker and switch the play. We lacked energy and pace and had no outlet whatsoever down the right to the extent that all our attacks were somewhat 'Narrow' which suited a team a man short. As for their second goal, it stemmed from a needless free kick from Milivojevic (Yet again) Ward got beaten to the ball by Watkins whom he was marking and Kouyate never reacted when Konza whom he was marking ran past him and headed the ball as it came down off the bar.Terrible defending all round.
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jeeagles  27 Dec 20 12.33pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
When one has a numerical advanrage in terms of players on the pitch, the common wisdom is to make the pitch big, move the ball quicker and switch the play. We lacked energy and pace and had no outlet whatsoever down the right to the extent that all our attacks were somewhat 'Narrow' which suited a team a man short. As for their second goal, it stemmed from a needless free kick from Milivojevic (Yet again) Ward got beaten to the ball by Watkins whom he was marking and Kouyate never reacted when Konza whom he was marking ran past him and headed the ball as it came down off the bar.Terrible defending all round. I got slated for slagging of Kayoute for ball watching against West Ham. Dragged off early (for Roy) against Liverpool and he still starts yesterday. It's seemingly impossible for some players to get dropped. Like Wilshere getting selected for Euro 2016 over again. We've got pace in Zaha, Eze, Schlupp, PVA and others... we just don't set up correctly to use it. No changes were made until we were 2 down on 70 minutes and even that as like-for-like.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 Dec 20 12.52pm |
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Originally posted by Booted Eagle
Think Roy will stay until the end of the season, unless a successor has already been found now, perhaps the like of Howe ? December fixtures always looked hard. If we go down tomorrow then it has been a poor month, a win, then not too bad, 8 points from 6. COYP !! We're not going to win though are we? We wouldn't beat a league one side playing like this.
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| Plaistow Eagle 27 Dec 20 1.03pm |
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Originally posted by AERO
We are in a tough position as a club We are an established premiership club .But no new ground/stand on horizon for years,an ageing squad,ageing manager,and apparently low transfer funds .Why ? Whats the plan if any ? Maybe the answer is to drop down a division and play youngsters and regroup as we are just treading water in this division. Do you understand / appreciate the financial impact of that? There’s no reason why we shouldn’t be blooding some of the youngsters now - the likes of Banks, Woods, Kirby etc.. Look around the league other Teams and Managers do it..!! But Roy just sticks to his favorites irrespective of form, performances and results. Even if it means playing those favorites out of position - look at the other week played Schlupp up front with Bats on the bench - please what’s all that about..!!
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| Casual Orpington 27 Dec 20 1.05pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Over summer there were people screaming that we need a full overhaul. In reality we only needed about 3. We've had Eze, Clyne, Batshuayi, and Ferguson. Eze has made a difference, but he's not been played in his correct position yet. Roy's completely overlooked plenty of talent, plus has only got 6 months left. Who'd invest in an underperforming manager effectively working his notice period? Especially when the manager has repeatedly shown that he wont use the players he's been given. 2 games ago after we’d got a good point against top of the table spurs and played really well first half against West Ham , drew as we couldn’t finish/world class goal/ bad refereeing for the sending off. Transfer talk most people were saying we didn’t need to sign anyone, maybe a youngster or 2. Now we apparently need to replace everyone except the keeper, Zaha and Eze. I’m a classic example of a fan that loves the players one week and thinks they are a bunch of w*knees the next. In reality , although an ageing team, they are on the whole over a season ‘alright’. Few blinding games and a few shockers.
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| Rachid Rachid Rachid 27 Dec 20 1.11pm |
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Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle
Do you understand / appreciate the financial impact of that? There’s no reason why we shouldn’t be blooding some of the youngsters now - the likes of Banks, Woods, Kirby etc.. Look around the league other Teams and Managers do it..!! But Roy just sticks to his favorites irrespective of form, performances and results. Even if it means playing those favorites out of position - look at the other week played Schlupp up front with Bats on the bench - please what’s all that about..!! Schlupp started out as a centre forward with Leicester and Bats was absolutely panned by just about everyone for his performance the game before against Burnley. We lost the game to Newcastle once Bats, Benteke and Riedewald had been introduced with the latter partly culpable for their first goal.
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| Painter Croydon 27 Dec 20 1.18pm |
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Originally posted by AERO
We are in a tough position as a club We are an established premiership club .But no new ground/stand on horizon for years,an ageing squad,ageing manager,and apparently low transfer funds .Why ? Whats the plan if any ? Maybe the answer is to drop down a division and play youngsters and regroup as we are just treading water in this division. What, a bit like Sunderland, Stoke and all the others did. Its well known the Championship is the hardest league to get out of, we only managed via the play offs, just.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Dec 20 2.15pm |
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Next Sunday at this time we might be reflecting on a very good week for the team with all the 'Roy Out' debate consigned to history!
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| Plaistow Eagle 27 Dec 20 2.22pm |
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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid
Schlupp started out as a centre forward with Leicester and Bats was absolutely panned by just about everyone for his performance the game before against Burnley. We lost the game to Newcastle once Bats, Benteke and Riedewald had been introduced with the latter partly culpable for their first goal. Understand the sentiment, but since when has introducing striker made that striker culpable for conceding goals - that's due to tactics and formation, which I'm afraid is down to Roy. On Bat's IMO there's a player there, but Roy just doesn't seem to know how to get the best out of him. As others have said on here it's similar to Benteke, Roy's tactics have turned a 15 goal per season striker into a player with no or little confidence.
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| southnorwoodhill 27 Dec 20 2.33pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
After two minutes McArthur was limping. Kouyate is slow anyway, and Luka's running is like a fifty year old with a hangover, and we were totally overran in midfield, unsurprisingly. Villa didn't have to even run that fast to totally catch us out. It was usually at a canter. Can Fulham, Brighton, or Burnley go on a little run that would close the gap between 14th and 18th place? Can we pick up the odd point here and there to stay clear?
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 27 Dec 20 2.59pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
After two minutes McArthur was limping. Kouyate is slow anyway, and Luka's running is like a fifty year old with a hangover, and we were totally overran in midfield, unsurprisingly. Villa didn't have to even run that fast to totally catch us out. It was usually at a canter. We had lots of good play but were never going to catch their defending out and we only got behind them five times with only two of the resulting crosses any good to cause problems, we give the ball away much too cheaply and have done so for absolutely ages now and the good teams will always make us pay for it, for me it's our players not the coaching staff.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 Dec 20 3.02pm |
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
We had lots of good play but were never going to catch their defending out and we only got behind them five times with only two of the resulting crosses any good to cause problems, we give the ball away much too cheaply and have done so for absolutely ages now and the good teams will always make us pay for it, for me it's our players not the coaching staff. Fair enough. I don't totally disagree. More bad results though and Parish won't have a choice. It's a shame, but you can't sack eleven players and get results. Often a new manager gets a few points - that could be enough to save us this season. Fingers crossed West Brom, Fulham and Sheffield stay sh1t.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Dec 20 3.04pm |
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
Can Fulham, Brighton, or Burnley go on a little run that would close the gap between 14th and 18th place? Can we pick up the odd point here and there to stay clear? Brighton deservedly lead an abject W.Ham 1-0 at half-time.
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