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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Feb 21 11.07am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


Tell that to someone who justified it. The death was unnecessary and the treatment callous, but I'm not losing too much sleep over a man who points a gun at pregnant women.
You on the other hand are happy to for others to use the death as an excuse for lawlessness and an opportunity for political gain.
By saying there is no media manipulation of facts you lose all credibility. Not that you ever had any.

With regard to Trump, it began the day he took office and continues to this day.

No-body, and especially me, is making any excuses for either lawlessness or political gain. I defend peaceful protest and condemn violence.

You cannot manipulate facts. You can be selective in which facts you use, and how you present them. You can spin a story to paint a picture which suits an agenda. Those things happen and always have.

That a large section of the media criticised Trump from the outset is undoubtedly true. There is though a very simple reason for that. He was always unfit to hold that office and deserved every negative word that was said. Of course he was given a hard time. Anyone as bad as him would get the same treatment.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Feb 21 11.14am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardinho

Yes, but they're lying to you...
...and that's a fact.


If it's a fact then you will be able to offer evidence to prove it.

If, as I suspect it's just an opinion born out of prejudice, you won't. You will offer dubious youtube videos and claim that equals evidence.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 18 Feb 21 11.24am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's never worth getting aggressive. You used to make me angry. Now you though you just amuse me.

You have never answered these points. You've either made excuses for the positions you hold or for not answering. Just as you do now.

Those who you consider "good faith" posters would do well to treat that accolade with caution. It's a club that Groucho Marx would be unlikely to join.

You go routinely go round in the same circles. White people being marginalised Democrats being self-serving socialist dictators. Globalism being the cause of our economic decline. The EU a source of selfish domination by the Germans. It's all so predictable as to not be worth responding to very often any more.

Being negatively regarded by a person like yourself is exactly where I wish to be.

As for your suggestion that I haven't answered these questions, there are plenty of posters I've had discussions with on the board regarding these matters.

No doubt they will regard your comments on that with bemusement as my views have been plainly made.

However, a bad faith poster doesn't care for accuracy and that's a feature of your posts.

Please feel free to stop posting at me. I genuinely restrict my responses to you as I know it will only result in continual negativity between us. If it were true that you actually want to debate issues then there are other posters who are more willing to debate with you.

Though I regard it as pointless due to your dishonest nature.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 Feb 21 12.24pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't doubt for a moment that what you describe is true. It isn't though "anti-white propaganda", despite that you and others may wish to see it that way. It's just the ravings of a minority group. Such people exist everywhere and propound every position under the sun, from flat earthers to believers in "Q".

The suggestion was that "anti-white propaganda" existed in the schools and society in general and that isn't the case at all.

Whether they should be arrested depends entirely on what they are saying. Being offensive isn't a crime. Inciting hatred or using language likely to result in a breach of the peace is. At least here.

When did you go to that place then to confirm your suspicions?

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Feb 21 3.13pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Being negatively regarded by a person like yourself is exactly where I wish to be.

As for your suggestion that I haven't answered these questions, there are plenty of posters I've had discussions with on the board regarding these matters.

No doubt they will regard your comments on that with bemusement as my views have been plainly made.

However, a bad faith poster doesn't care for accuracy and that's a feature of your posts.

Please feel free to stop posting at me. I genuinely restrict my responses to you as I know it will only result in continual negativity between us. If it were true that you actually want to debate issues then there are other posters who are more willing to debate with you.

Though I regard it as pointless due to your dishonest nature.

I don't regard you negatively so much as irrelevant in today's world. Your views are well past their use-by date and just an echo of another age.

I don't doubt for a moment that you think you have answered the questions but the truth is that repeating assertions by dressing them in new clothes are not explanations. No doubt those in your camp will not question the assertions, as they make similar claims, whilst those who don't, won't.

I will, as always, decide for myself which posts I respond to. I ignore many when they just repeat the same old prejudices to the same old audience. If it pleases me to comment, then I will.

Those other posters who are able to engage more objectively than yourself will certainly though continue to receive more attention as sometimes there can be an unexpected meeting of minds. And humour, which is very welcome at the moment. Neither humour nor any meeting of minds is ever present in your posts to me. I cannot recall one in which you weren't insulting in some way.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Feb 21 3.15pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

When did you go to that place then to confirm your suspicions?

What place and what suspicions?

I don't understand your question. Maybe my brain is broken too?

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 Feb 21 3.41pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What place and what suspicions?

I don't understand your question. Maybe my brain is broken too?

The place in america where jiminez said anti white propaganda was happening. You said it wasnt or it looked like you thought so.

 

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Lombardinho Flag London 18 Feb 21 3.51pm Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


If it's a fact then you will be able to offer evidence to prove it.

If, as I suspect it's just an opinion born out of prejudice, you won't. You will offer dubious youtube videos and claim that equals evidence.

Well, there's this for starters

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Not born out of prejudice, it's just easy to spot cognitive dissonance. You're being played.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Feb 21 5.32pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

The place in america where jiminez said anti white propaganda was happening. You said it wasnt or it looked like you thought so.

He referred to a specific group throwing out insults in New York whereas the suggestion was that "anti-white propaganda" was usual in schools and, by inference, in society as a whole. I don't think the two are in any way similar. The first is just evidence of small groups of people holding extreme/weird views, which is hardly that surprising as there are plenty of examples. The other indicates a more widespread issue.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Feb 21 5.49pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardinho

Well, there's this for starters

[Link]

Not born out of prejudice, it's just easy to spot cognitive dissonance. You're being played.

Well at least it isn't a video but it has nothing at all to do with fact-checking, which is what we were discussing. This is simply a report of political pressure being exerted. Not nice, but not a very big deal. No-one's being played here, nor is there the slightest cognitive dissonance involved.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 19 Feb 21 1.13am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

He referred to a specific group throwing out insults in New York whereas the suggestion was that "anti-white propaganda" was usual in schools and, by inference, in society as a whole. I don't think the two are in any way similar. The first is just evidence of small groups of people holding extreme/weird views, which is hardly that surprising as there are plenty of examples. The other indicates a more widespread issue.

Amped up identity politics of all shades turn most people of all races off. This received media attention on account that it's viewed as such. 'Progressive' to the point of extremely regressive. Both those bothering parents with this insulting 'whiteness' nonsense, and their mirror image, the racial inadequates head counting non-whites at every turn and using this stuff as a recruitment tool for their own warped take on race are equally boring and misguided. They both fall foul of 'pick your own reality' social media bubbles that normalise their ridiculous behaviour and replace the kinds of relationships and compromises that exist within the lives of normal people.

Ultimately anyone, black or white, who views their race as the most important aspect of who they are has learned very little about life or people and will inevitably attempt to coerce others into the same pathetically weak and divisive outlook they themselves fell victim to.


Edited by BlueJay (19 Feb 2021 2.46am)

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Feb 21 10.39am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No-body, and especially me, is making any excuses for either lawlessness or political gain. I defend peaceful protest and condemn violence.

You cannot manipulate facts. You can be selective in which facts you use, and how you present them. You can spin a story to paint a picture which suits an agenda. Those things happen and always have.

That a large section of the media criticised Trump from the outset is undoubtedly true. There is though a very simple reason for that. He was always unfit to hold that office and deserved every negative word that was said. Of course he was given a hard time. Anyone as bad as him would get the same treatment.

He was democratically elected. You seem happy for super rich corporations and their media front to decide who is 'elected'.
Sadly, that is now the reality of so called democracy.

 

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