No one wants the seat because they all know it’s an impossibility to deliver a Brexit that does what was ‘advertised’.

This is what you prefer over the EU

You keep saying that our political system is better than being in the EU, then you say this.

You argue against your own point

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

The ERG have been very transparent as to what they want .

In general terms there is of course no overall pandemic approval for the draft deal, indeed wholesale and virulent oppostion to it but the PM wants the great and good to support it "In the national interest".

Maybe those Conservative MPs in Parliament who will have that crucial vote might conclude that a rejection of the deal might prove cataclysmic and decide to grudgingly back the deal.My feeling is that Conservative MPs are divided between pragmatists and realists.As things stand it really is difficult to see how the deal will be approved in Parliament.

Edited by Willo (17 Nov 2018 11.42am)

I guess because it is not a system of class and privilege, other than that the EU have handled all this very professionally without any rancour or bitterness.

I am pleased we are staying in all but name, you have to be pragmatic.

Agree with this. What a bunch of cvnts. David Davis and Boris exposed as being spineless and Not up to the job Boris even discredited by his own family. Meanwhile w***er Corbyn sits on his hands after failing to offer much opposition to a referendum that broke election law and conservatives eating each other. Waste of space the whole lot.

Talk about living in a bubble!

This guy should write press releases for China.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Verhofstadt letting the mask slip....

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'A week is a long time in politics'

Who would have thought a week ago that the UK would remain in the EU in all but name, subject to their rules and paying 60 billions for the privilege?

To remain would obviously be far better for us so can't happen as it is Westminster.

If Mrs May were to call an election she could well win with labour votes, mine included much as I detest their social policies.

You really know little of the organisation you love so much.

How can you pass legislation in an "up to date" manner compared to Westminster? Examples?

Less bureaucratic? Did you know that once a month the European Parliament moves from Brussels to Strasbourg at a cost of £150m a year as lorries transport paperwork.

The EU itself is extra bureaucracy! Why do we need have two governments? Two sets of politicians? Funny how other countries across Europe and the world manage just fine.

Less political influence? Do you realise how all the major banks lobby the EU in relative secrecy and all the crony capitalism? How former EU president Jose Manuel Barroso now works for Goldman Sachs. Look into this bank's role in the Greek crisis.

Look at the needs of the people? How can they effectively do this when 28 countries have to agree?

As soon as you mention class (public school elites), then your argument falls down. You're not arguing on the merits of the EU but a Marxist class warfare ideology, which has no place in modern society.

Theresa May, who went to a grammar school, is incompetent and LIED about delivering Brexit. There are dozens of actual Leave MPs who would have delivered. Theresa May and the Tories will pay the price by not being elected again. This is all basic democracy.

You know that Jeremy Corbyn voted against the Maastricht treaty in 1993 because the EU had handed control to "an unelected set of bankers".

Meanwhile, your esteemed leader Jean-Claude Juncker is a well-known drunk and this week was wearing two different shoes as he staggered off the stage. But at least he didn't study at Eton, right?

Edited by Penge Eagle (18 Nov 2018 3.17pm)

July 4th 1776....the day the United States crashed out of the British Empire without a deal..

Pro USA & Israel