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Originally posted by cryrst

The problem isn't to do with recent events.
People live longer because of medicine and new treatments. One issue is that the NHS wasnt designed to keep people alive or treat people for ever in hospital. It was designed to make people better. Sadly charlie guard isn't the only example of this happening. What doesn't help is the nanny state telling us everything is bad and don't drink this or eat that. Imagine if everyone gave up smoking and drinking to excess. Many more people living long long lives at the taxpayers expense.
I'm doing my bit to prevent this

You can't compare the original NHS to modern day it's 2021 not 1940's.

This is why it's in such a state they didn't move with the times and are trying to catch up using plasters for an infection.

Modern day health care is disease management back in those days they wanted to prevent or treat to cure if they could we have no interest in that now to0 much $$$ coming from parties that gain by having people loaded up on meds they don't need.

You have looked at it way to simple again them pushing that this or that claiming is unhealthy again is about $$$ they do not care one bit about your quality of live what they want is you to live long but be unhealthy you are making people a lot of money doing this.

I have been involved in different health care in multi countries and now do research its not about saving lifes its all money driven.

Govt likes control they depending on your country have so much power so they will use it for their agenda to the full amount they can also these prime minsters etc are puppets.

What are you doing to prevent this?


 


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Originally posted by grumpymort

You can't compare the original NHS to modern day it's 2021 not 1940's.

This is why it's in such a state they didn't move with the times and are trying to catch up using plasters for an infection.

Modern day health care is disease management back in those days they wanted to prevent or treat to cure if they could we have no interest in that now to0 much $$$ coming from parties that gain by having people loaded up on meds they don't need.

You have looked at it way to simple again them pushing that this or that claiming is unhealthy again is about $$$ they do not care one bit about your quality of live what they want is you to live long but be unhealthy you are making people a lot of money doing this.

I have been involved in different health care in multi countries and now do research its not about saving lifes its all money driven.

Govt likes control they depending on your country have so much power so they will use it for their agenda to the full amount they can also these prime minsters etc are puppets.

What are you doing to prevent this?


Not giving a s*** is a start i guess!
I do think you have a bit of a complex about control. Why are you so concerned by being told what to do. Its part of being in a relatively stable society. You do what your told and life is relatively trouble free. I'm not really into anarchy as it bites a lot of people who don't want or deserve to be bitten.
I don't care who makes money tbh, envy is a terrible trait. I would advise anyone concentrate on how you can be content with your own life, not others.

 

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Originally posted by grumpymort

You can't compare the original NHS to modern day it's 2021 not 1940's.

This is why it's in such a state they didn't move with the times and are trying to catch up using plasters for an infection.

Modern day health care is disease management back in those days they wanted to prevent or treat to cure if they could we have no interest in that now to0 much $$$ coming from parties that gain by having people loaded up on meds they don't need.

You have looked at it way to simple again them pushing that this or that claiming is unhealthy again is about $$$ they do not care one bit about your quality of live what they want is you to live long but be unhealthy you are making people a lot of money doing this.

I have been involved in different health care in multi countries and now do research its not about saving lifes its all money driven.

Govt likes control they depending on your country have so much power so they will use it for their agenda to the full amount they can also these prime minsters etc are puppets.

What are you doing to prevent this?


Ah Dr Mort. Lovely to hear from you again. I so look forward to reading your research when you post a link.

In the meanwhile, about my Morton’s Neuroma ...

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

Not giving a s*** is a start i guess!
I do think you have a bit of a complex about control. Why are you so concerned by being told what to do. Its part of being in a relatively stable society. You do what your told and life is relatively trouble free. I'm not really into anarchy as it bites a lot of people who don't want or deserve to be bitten.
I don't care who makes money tbh, envy is a terrible trait. I would advise anyone concentrate on how you can be content with your own life, not others.


You was moaning about nanny state and then go on to say dont care about control.

people are being controlled by fear or misleading information and you think this is acceptable and fakes a stable trouble free society really (why are you living in this country move to russia or north korea if you like it like that)

So again you think its ok for people to screw over others and cause them to live in suffering so they can gain lots of wealth because that is what is happening.

You are not in reality have you ever even left your own town you have the sort of mentality of a lot of people I used to put up with in US

Originally posted by Mapletree

Ah Dr Mort. Lovely to hear from you again. I so look forward to reading your research when you post a link.

In the meanwhile, about my Morton’s Neuroma ...


What research?

Not sure what you are on about regarding Morton's Neuroma are you asking for advice on this condition?

If so do you not have a doctor for that and I remember you claiming you knew about health related matters so shouldn't you be dealing with it already.

Edited by grumpymort (04 Mar 2021 10.36pm)

 


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Originally posted by grumpymort


What research?

Not sure what you are on about regarding Morton's Neuroma are you asking for advice on this condition?

If so do you not have a doctor for that and I remember you claiming you knew about health related matters so shouldn't you be dealing with it already.

Edited by grumpymort (04 Mar 2021 10.36pm)

You have a PhD, where is your thesis? You ‘do research’, I assumed your job is healthcare research. Maybe not.

Yes, I helped run hospitals in Brazil (same company as Simon Stevens) and later in Sussex and Kent. But, as you are a Doctor, I am always interested in free advice.

 

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Originally posted by Mapletree

You have a PhD, where is your thesis? You ‘do research’, I assumed your job is healthcare research. Maybe not.

Yes, I helped run hospitals in Brazil (same company as Simon Stevens) and later in Sussex and Kent. But, as you are a Doctor, I am always interested in free advice.


I am no longer a medical doctor.

I was certified an MD in US and moved into Nutrition & Dietetics which is what my PhD is from.

This was before I moved to Thailand and got a few extra qualifications I ended up working with Nicholas White.

Later got involved in MORU I ended up doing a lot of traveling to UK ended up moving their.

I do not work in healthcare research anymore I am retired.

I wouldn't be able to give you any advise I know nothing about your medical history and I expect you have already looked into or been advised what you can try.

The only advise I can give which applies to everyone take a look at lifestyle/diet this is so important and very understated.

Edited by grumpymort (05 Mar 2021 12.29am)

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 05 Mar 21 6.37am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


I am no longer a medical doctor.

I was certified an MD in US and moved into Nutrition & Dietetics which is what my PhD is from.

This was before I moved to Thailand and got a few extra qualifications I ended up working with Nicholas White.

Later got involved in MORU I ended up doing a lot of traveling to UK ended up moving their.

I do not work in healthcare research anymore I am retired.

I wouldn't be able to give you any advise I know nothing about your medical history and I expect you have already looked into or been advised what you can try.

The only advise I can give which applies to everyone take a look at lifestyle/diet this is so important and very understated.

Edited by grumpymort (05 Mar 2021 12.29am)

So hmg gives advice on diet and lifestyle and its ok but advice on covid isn't. Are you having the vaccine?

 

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 05 Mar 21 7.18am Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

A German immunologist is recommending over 65s should have the Oxford jab. Seems to be having a dramatic effect on illness in Scotland according to reports. They have a lot less in that bracket so most done a while ago. A good sign for all of us.
The EU could well and truly have dropped the ball on this.

Don’t suggest the EU might have dropped a ball. There are those on here that cherish the EU and consider it can do no wrong.
I see that Italy have also denied Australia an intended shipment of 250,000 doses of AZ, supported and ratified by your caring, sharing, EU.
The one thing a crisis shows us, with some clarity, are the true colours of people, politicians and organisations.

 

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Originally posted by grumpymort


I am no longer a medical doctor.

I was certified an MD in US and moved into Nutrition & Dietetics which is what my PhD is from.

This was before I moved to Thailand and got a few extra qualifications I ended up working with Nicholas White.

Later got involved in MORU I ended up doing a lot of traveling to UK ended up moving their.

I do not work in healthcare research anymore I am retired.

I wouldn't be able to give you any advise I know nothing about your medical history and I expect you have already looked into or been advised what you can try.

The only advise I can give which applies to everyone take a look at lifestyle/diet this is so important and very understated.

Edited by grumpymort (05 Mar 2021 12.29am)

This is written in a completely different style to every other of your posts, which have tended to look like English was your second language.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 Mar 21 8.23am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


I am no longer a medical doctor.

I was certified an MD in US and moved into Nutrition & Dietetics which is what my PhD is from.

This was before I moved to Thailand and got a few extra qualifications I ended up working with Nicholas White.

Later got involved in MORU I ended up doing a lot of traveling to UK ended up moving their.

I do not work in healthcare research anymore I am retired.

I wouldn't be able to give you any advise I know nothing about your medical history and I expect you have already looked into or been advised what you can try.

The only advise I can give which applies to everyone take a look at lifestyle/diet this is so important and very understated.

Edited by grumpymort (05 Mar 2021 12.29am)

I would be interested in your views on the human microbiome.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 Mar 21 8.29am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So hmg gives advice on diet and lifestyle and its ok but advice on covid isn't. Are you having the vaccine?

He’s probably waiting to be on a human trial at his alma mater

Thailand will begin clinical trials of a locally developed Covid-19 vaccine in March, making it the nation’s first inoculation program to enter human trials.

The program, led by the Government Pharmaceutical Organization, Mahidol University and PATH, the Program for Appropriate Technology in Health, started its research mid-2020 and its animal testings showed promising results, Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul said on Wednesday.

 

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Originally posted by grumpymort


I am no longer a medical doctor.

I was certified an MD in US and moved into Nutrition & Dietetics which is what my PhD is from.

This was before I moved to Thailand and got a few extra qualifications I ended up working with Nicholas White.

Later got involved in MORU I ended up doing a lot of traveling to UK ended up moving their.

I do not work in healthcare research anymore I am retired.

I wouldn't be able to give you any advise I know nothing about your medical history and I expect you have already looked into or been advised what you can try.

The only advise I can give which applies to everyone take a look at lifestyle/diet this is so important and very understated.

Edited by grumpymort (05 Mar 2021 12.29am)

So you hold a PhD in Nutrition and are very knowledgable (allegedly) but you stated those in charge of nutrition at Palace do not know what they are talking about! Have you not considered that they may well have a PhD in Nutrition as well?

 

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