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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 25 Feb 21 10.59pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

I did say that. You just didn't comprehend it, so I simplified it.

Righto...

Possibly the cataracts. Old father time catches up with us all – I'll let it slide.

 


Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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BlueJay Flag UK 25 Feb 21 11.41pm

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

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Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (25 Feb 2021 10.53pm)

Yes, yes. Now moving along.. Best of luck when you go for your jab.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 Feb 21 11.50pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Personally, I totally agree with this viewpoint.

I still find it weird that people seem to think flying abroad for leisure purposes is some sort of annual essential or human right

Not to mention the ignorance that goes with it regarding risk of transmission and potential for quarantine on arrival or return.

Some of the people interviewed raging about having no notice or surprise when they spend their entire holiday in a hotel room, or being fined for travelling etc. etc. I mean seriously? The stupidity is astounding sometimes

Covid infection rate is rising worldwide.

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This link mainly refers to the USA but rates are up in France and Germany and other European countries as well because of the slow vaccine rollout.

Maybe now is not time to book a holiday give a couple more months and see what happens.

 


One more point

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 Feb 21 11.53pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

The boss calls it, think of other people.


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One more point

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BlueJay Flag UK 26 Feb 21 12.01am

Originally posted by Badger11

The boss calls it, think of other people.


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Yes, often understated, but more forthright here and from a woman who knows a thing or two about duty. Getting vaccinated is as much about protecting others as yourself.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 Feb 21 2.41am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

No young healthy person should feel pressurized to take a rushed vaccine by others virtue signaling empathy.

This is a risk/reward situation and each individual should decide their actions based upon that.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 26 Feb 21 5.37am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

No young healthy person should feel pressurized to take a rushed vaccine by others virtue signaling empathy.

This is a risk/reward situation and each individual should decide their actions based upon that.

They might not be healthy if they get covid though.
Long covid also affects younger people who didnt get seriously ill.
The vaccine will go a long way to preventing this.
Trying to avoid covid is the way not to get it granted,building an immunity by getting it is another way to carry on without the vaccine.
How long it lasts is up for debate, 5-6 months is the recent report. The caveat being the above. Stirling you have said you are in the vulnerable category so if you got covid you could get very sick or worse. Are you taking the vaccine when offered yourself?

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Feb 21 8.23am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

How many business people are travelling to and from South America, Africa and Portugal?

Allegedly the majority of the travellers are... yeh right! As if anyone would not be truthful to the Police or BF

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Feb 21 8.25am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Morons. I hope they enjoy their self-paid stay isolating in a motorway airport hotel.

The hotels they are staying in, certainly at Heathrow, are rather nice.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 Feb 21 8.26am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

They might not be healthy if they get covid though.
Long covid also affects younger people who didnt get seriously ill.
The vaccine will go a long way to preventing this.
Trying to avoid covid is the way not to get it granted,building an immunity by getting it is another way to carry on without the vaccine.
How long it lasts is up for debate, 5-6 months is the recent report. The caveat being the above. Stirling you have said you are in the vulnerable category so if you got covid you could get very sick or worse. Are you taking the vaccine when offered yourself?


No, and I've already been offered it. However, I will wait a year and make a decision then.

I don't wish to get into the weeds over the vaccine(s), which is important for those that want it and the vulnerable.

However, in my view, there are no strong arguments for the young and healthy taking this vaccine. However, if they wish to I won't criticise their free choice.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Feb 2021 8.26am)

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Feb 21 8.45am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

In the often smarter European nation, the vaccine officials and leaders have a different (selfish?) problem with vaccine uptake.

Many Germans, including health workers, are skipping appointments or refusing to sign up for the AstraZeneca shot, which they fear is less effective than the one developed by Pfizer and the German company BioNTech.

That reluctance has been fueled by weeks of negative coverage in the German media, which has portrayed AstraZeneca’s vaccine as “second-class” and published stories of people suffering adverse reactions.

By the numbers: Clinical trials do suggest that the Pfizer-BioNTech shot’s efficacy, at 95 percent, is higher than AstraZeneca’s, which is between 60 and 90 percent depending on factors like the spacing of doses. Still, it is difficult to directly compare vaccines unless they are tested head-to-head in the same trial.

I understand Pfizer-BioNTech uses the new mRNA method without years of inoculations whereas the AstraZeneca one uses the usual vaccine method of a very small amount of the virus contained in the vaccine, but Germans are no doubt don’t have the level of innumeracy we do.

 


COYP

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Feb 21 8.53am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


No, and I've already been offered it. However, I will wait a year and make a decision then.

I don't wish to get into the weeds over the vaccine(s), which is important for those that want it and the vulnerable.

However, in my view, there are no strong arguments for the young and healthy taking this vaccine. However, if they wish to I won't criticise their free choice.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Feb 2021 8.26am)

Calling people selfish isn’t going to cut it enough. Many will be among others who (intend) not to take it. I haven’t seen any sort of public messaging on tv or social media to convince either this ethnic minority problem or younger generations it won’t affect fertility, which is probably the biggest concern around. We’re not at younger age groups’ turn yet, but they should get the messaging out soon, because it will get round to them pretty quickly now. Only a couple of months rather than 7 or 9.

 


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