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Quote The Sash at 07 Jan 2015 3.49pm
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Quote The Sash at 07 Jan 2015 1.51pm
Doesn't make him a rapist though.
Assume ? Know with 100% surety surely ?
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The Sash  Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 07 Jan 15 4.13pm |
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Quote Username at 07 Jan 2015 3.54pm
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Quote black eagle. at 07 Jan 2015 12.32pm
Ched Evans served 2 and a half years for rape,he's victim will have to live with the rape for ever. so for her it's a life sentence,probably still having nightmares,should he sign for Oldham attendances will drop and sponsors will no longer sponsor the latics. Sad day for football if this piece off sh!t is allowed to continue playing football. Is he a piece of sh*t if he is actually innocent or has a favourable case review though??? The problem with rape cases such as this is you have one drunk party claiming consensual sex and one drunken party claiming rape - physical evidence is very thin on the ground so its essentially down to a group of 12 member of the general public picking their favourite of two stories.
Doesn't make him a rapist though. The guilty verdict does. There was enough evidence to convict him of rape and he has had an appeal rejected. He is a convicted rapist. Not really sure what you're struggling with here.
So everyone who has been through a British court and found guilty is guilty are they ? Yes. Until proved otherwise. Or would you still have Rolf Harris presenting kids TV shows because he 'might' be innocent?
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| npn Crowborough 07 Jan 15 4.18pm |
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Ched Evans served 2 and a half years for rape,he's victim will have to live with the rape for ever. so for her it's a life sentence,probably still having nightmares,should he sign for Oldham attendances will drop and sponsors will no longer sponsor the latics. Sad day for football if this piece off sh!t is allowed to continue playing football. Is he a piece of sh*t if he is actually innocent or has a favourable case review though??? The problem with rape cases such as this is you have one drunk party claiming consensual sex and one drunken party claiming rape - physical evidence is very thin on the ground so its essentially down to a group of 12 member of the general public picking their favourite of two stories.
Doesn't make him a rapist though. The guilty verdict does. There was enough evidence to convict him of rape and he has had an appeal rejected. He is a convicted rapist. Not really sure what you're struggling with here.
So everyone who has been through a British court and found guilty is guilty are they ? Yes. Until proved otherwise. Or would you still have Rolf Harris presenting kids TV shows because he 'might' be innocent?
If Evans worked with women (even in an office space), I would understand, and completely support, his exclusion from that profession. The fact is, he chases a bag of air up and down a pitch for a living, and will not come into contact with women as a direct result of his profession, so to bar him from it seems more punishment than logic.
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| morganistic 07 Jan 15 4.20pm |
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Quote npn at 07 Jan 2015 4.18pm
If Evans worked with women (even in an office space), I would understand, and completely support, his exclusion from that profession. The fact is, he chases a bag of air up and down a pitch for a living, and will not come into contact with women as a direct result of his profession, so to bar him from it seems more punishment than logic.
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| npn Crowborough 07 Jan 15 5.00pm |
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Quote morganistic at 07 Jan 2015 4.20pm
Quote npn at 07 Jan 2015 4.18pm
If Evans worked with women (even in an office space), I would understand, and completely support, his exclusion from that profession. The fact is, he chases a bag of air up and down a pitch for a living, and will not come into contact with women as a direct result of his profession, so to bar him from it seems more punishment than logic.
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 07 Jan 2015 1.21pm
Quote The Sash at 07 Jan 2015 12.58pm
Quote black eagle. at 07 Jan 2015 12.32pm
Ched Evans served 2 and a half years for rape,he's victim will have to live with the rape for ever. so for her it's a life sentence,probably still having nightmares,should he sign for Oldham attendances will drop and sponsors will no longer sponsor the latics. Sad day for football if this piece off sh!t is allowed to continue playing football. Is he a piece of sh*t if he is actually innocent or has a favourable case review though??? The problem with rape cases such as this is you have one drunk party claiming consensual sex and one drunken party claiming rape - physical evidence is very thin on the ground so its essentially down to a group of 12 member of the general public picking their favourite of two stories.
You keep batting on about it, I hope you man enough to apologize if he wins the review, and that could well happen. The Criminal Cases Review Commission(CCRC) is conducting an investigation into Evans's conviction, I just read an article about it and some legal experts are very uncomfortable about his conviction especially as there was no violence involved and the girl only complained sometime later, and if the CCRC are investigating there must be doubts as they don't do that lightly.
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| eagles2011 07 Jan 15 5.23pm |
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I expect the supporters of other teams due to play Oldham are already composing appropriate chants
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| ghosteagle 07 Jan 15 5.28pm |
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Quote Sg Bilko at 07 Jan 2015 5.04pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 07 Jan 2015 1.21pm
Quote The Sash at 07 Jan 2015 12.58pm
Quote black eagle. at 07 Jan 2015 12.32pm
Ched Evans served 2 and a half years for rape,he's victim will have to live with the rape for ever. so for her it's a life sentence,probably still having nightmares,should he sign for Oldham attendances will drop and sponsors will no longer sponsor the latics. Sad day for football if this piece off sh!t is allowed to continue playing football. Is he a piece of sh*t if he is actually innocent or has a favourable case review though??? The problem with rape cases such as this is you have one drunk party claiming consensual sex and one drunken party claiming rape - physical evidence is very thin on the ground so its essentially down to a group of 12 member of the general public picking their favourite of two stories.
You keep batting on about it, I hope you man enough to apologize if he wins the review, and that could well happen. The Criminal Cases Review Commission(CCRC) is conducting an investigation into Evans's conviction, I just read an article about it and some legal experts are very uncomfortable about his conviction especially as there was no violence involved and the girl only complained sometime later, and if the CCRC are investigating there must be doubts as they don't do that lightly. Could you possibly provide a link to said article? The CCRC is investigating at the request of Evans and his legal team, not because of any independent doubts over his guilt. Although there does seem to be confusion over why his case has been fast-tracked above others.
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| ghosteagle 07 Jan 15 5.29pm |
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Quote eagles2011 at 07 Jan 2015 5.23pm
I expect the supporters of other teams due to play Oldham are already composing appropriate chants Makes you wonder why anybody would hire him, regardless of guilt, as the focus of every game will be him. Got to affect the rest of the team surely?
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| Old Chap Orpington 07 Jan 15 9.21pm |
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Quote eagles2011 at 07 Jan 2015 5.23pm
I expect the supporters of other teams due to play Oldham are already composing appropriate chants
Trivial fact - Palace used to win 5-1 at least once a season, maybe next season? |
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 07 Jan 15 10.35pm |
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Quote Sg Bilko at 07 Jan 2015 5.04pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 07 Jan 2015 1.21pm
Quote The Sash at 07 Jan 2015 12.58pm
Quote black eagle. at 07 Jan 2015 12.32pm
Ched Evans served 2 and a half years for rape,he's victim will have to live with the rape for ever. so for her it's a life sentence,probably still having nightmares,should he sign for Oldham attendances will drop and sponsors will no longer sponsor the latics. Sad day for football if this piece off sh!t is allowed to continue playing football. Is he a piece of sh*t if he is actually innocent or has a favourable case review though??? The problem with rape cases such as this is you have one drunk party claiming consensual sex and one drunken party claiming rape - physical evidence is very thin on the ground so its essentially down to a group of 12 member of the general public picking their favourite of two stories.
You keep batting on about it, I hope you man enough to apologize if he wins the review, and that could well happen. The Criminal Cases Review Commission(CCRC) is conducting an investigation into Evans's conviction, I just read an article about it and some legal experts are very uncomfortable about his conviction especially as there was no violence involved and the girl only complained sometime later, and if the CCRC are investigating there must be doubts as they don't do that lightly. She complained the next day. I could care less if he wins the review, anyone who even remotely thinks what he did was not premeditated and planned with his mate is naive. The CCRC are bound to review any case that's put before them. If he gets away with it, he'll just join the ranks of countless other men who got away with raping a woman.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 07 Jan 15 10.38pm |
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Quote LABoxers at 07 Jan 2015 3.14pm
Im still not really sure why drunkerly raping somebody is so much worse than drunkernly killing 2 children ala Luke McCormick. EDIT:- I guess it is partly to do with accepting responsibility and showing remorse, after I've thought about it a little more. Edited by LABoxers (07 Jan 2015 3.15pm) Deliberate intent vs accident. For all of Luke McCormicks faults it would be erroneous to believe he had a deliberate attempt to kill two children. Where as Evans raped someone (and in all likelihood conspired to do so, with forethought and deliberate intention).
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