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legaleagle Flag 16 Jun 15 9.11pm

Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 5.37pm

It is pointless comparing how indigenous non-Muslim people bring their kids up with how Muslims do. The have a very different set of 'values' and are religion-ridden. It is like a country within a country. We need to maintain diplomatic relations but be on guard.

Edited by derben (16 Jun 2015 5.37pm)


What precisely are your proposed solutions for seeking to reduce the number of impressionable "under age kids" or "young adults" in this country falling for IS' nonsense,and why in your view would they be likely to be both achievable and effective?

 

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derben Flag 16 Jun 15 9.28pm

Quote legaleagle at 16 Jun 2015 9.11pm

Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 5.37pm

It is pointless comparing how indigenous non-Muslim people bring their kids up with how Muslims do. The have a very different set of 'values' and are religion-ridden. It is like a country within a country. We need to maintain diplomatic relations but be on guard.

Edited by derben (16 Jun 2015 5.37pm)


What precisely are your proposed solutions for seeking to reduce the number of impressionable "under age kids" or "young adults" in this country falling for IS' nonsense,and why in your view would they be likely to be both achievable and effective?


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Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 5.37pm

It is pointless comparing how indigenous non-Muslim people bring their kids up with how Muslims do. The have a very different set of 'values' and are religion-ridden. It is like a country within a country. We need to maintain diplomatic relations but be on guard.

Edited by derben (16 Jun 2015 5.37pm)


What precisely are your proposed solutions for seeking to reduce the number of impressionable "under age kids" or "young adults" in this country falling for IS' nonsense,and why in your view would they be likely to be both achievable and effective?


Derben makes a post about a lone rider.
Derben is Hols 'tabloid'.
Derben has no answers.

 

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derben Flag 16 Jun 15 9.50pm

Quote TUX at 16 Jun 2015 9.38pm

Quote legaleagle at 16 Jun 2015 9.11pm

Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 5.37pm

It is pointless comparing how indigenous non-Muslim people bring their kids up with how Muslims do. The have a very different set of 'values' and are religion-ridden. It is like a country within a country. We need to maintain diplomatic relations but be on guard.

Edited by derben (16 Jun 2015 5.37pm)


What precisely are your proposed solutions for seeking to reduce the number of impressionable "under age kids" or "young adults" in this country falling for IS' nonsense,and why in your view would they be likely to be both achievable and effective?


Derben makes a post about a lone rider.
Derben is Hols 'tabloid'.
Derben has no answers.

We should I, a member of 'the wider community', be expected to solve the problem of "impressionable under age kids' or young adults" going off to assist in the beheading and burning alive of people. Perhaps if the various Muslim spokesmen that appear in the media blaming the police, teachers and 'the wider community', spent more time on putting their house in order, it might help. However, at least they are leaving this country, hopefully never to return, which lessens the ever present possibility of them manifesting their 'impressionability' here.

 

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Quote TUX at 16 Jun 2015 9.38pm

Quote legaleagle at 16 Jun 2015 9.11pm

Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 5.37pm

It is pointless comparing how indigenous non-Muslim people bring their kids up with how Muslims do. The have a very different set of 'values' and are religion-ridden. It is like a country within a country. We need to maintain diplomatic relations but be on guard.

Edited by derben (16 Jun 2015 5.37pm)


What precisely are your proposed solutions for seeking to reduce the number of impressionable "under age kids" or "young adults" in this country falling for IS' nonsense,and why in your view would they be likely to be both achievable and effective?


Derben makes a post about a lone rider.
Derben is Hols 'tabloid'.
Derben has no answers.


Hold up a second you lefties can't have it both ways,you post endless links to make several of your points.
Yet when Derben posts a link to a story about a stupid t*** of a girl going to be a sex slave for the lovely IS.......And the father is on record saying he blames all and sundry for this to happen,It turns out he has been exposing her to extremism all along.#So it does make you wonder how many other parents have been doing the same..and that's why all those lovely would'nt hurt a fly children have all done the same.

I think they need to put their houses in order first.

 


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Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 9.50pm

Quote TUX at 16 Jun 2015 9.38pm

Quote legaleagle at 16 Jun 2015 9.11pm

Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 5.37pm

It is pointless comparing how indigenous non-Muslim people bring their kids up with how Muslims do. The have a very different set of 'values' and are religion-ridden. It is like a country within a country. We need to maintain diplomatic relations but be on guard.

Edited by derben (16 Jun 2015 5.37pm)


What precisely are your proposed solutions for seeking to reduce the number of impressionable "under age kids" or "young adults" in this country falling for IS' nonsense,and why in your view would they be likely to be both achievable and effective?


Derben makes a post about a lone rider.
Derben is Hols 'tabloid'.
Derben has no answers.

We should I, a member of 'the wider community', be expected to solve the problem of "impressionable under age kids' or young adults" going off to assist in the beheading and burning alive of people. Perhaps if the various Muslim spokesmen that appear in the media blaming the police, teachers and 'the wider community', spent more time on putting their house in order, it might help. However, at least they are leaving this country, hopefully never to return, which lessens the ever present possibility of them manifesting their 'impressionability' here.

You chose to mention a native causing mayhem abroad.
I guess I missed your similar thread regarding Blair.
Or is that a work in progress.............?

 

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Quote TUX at 16 Jun 2015 10.09pm

Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 9.50pm

Quote TUX at 16 Jun 2015 9.38pm

Quote legaleagle at 16 Jun 2015 9.11pm

Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 5.37pm

It is pointless comparing how indigenous non-Muslim people bring their kids up with how Muslims do. The have a very different set of 'values' and are religion-ridden. It is like a country within a country. We need to maintain diplomatic relations but be on guard.

Edited by derben (16 Jun 2015 5.37pm)


What precisely are your proposed solutions for seeking to reduce the number of impressionable "under age kids" or "young adults" in this country falling for IS' nonsense,and why in your view would they be likely to be both achievable and effective?


Derben makes a post about a lone rider.
Derben is Hols 'tabloid'.
Derben has no answers.

We should I, a member of 'the wider community', be expected to solve the problem of "impressionable under age kids' or young adults" going off to assist in the beheading and burning alive of people. Perhaps if the various Muslim spokesmen that appear in the media blaming the police, teachers and 'the wider community', spent more time on putting their house in order, it might help. However, at least they are leaving this country, hopefully never to return, which lessens the ever present possibility of them manifesting their 'impressionability' here.

You chose to mention a native causing mayhem abroad.
I guess I missed your similar thread regarding Blair.
Or is that a work in progress.............?

If you are refering to me..I have not started a thread on Blair,but I will if you want.
Should be tried for war crimes,and made to pay compensation to all the british soldiers who died or were injured out of his own pocket.


End thread.

 


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Quote TUX at 16 Jun 2015 10.09pm

Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 9.50pm

Quote TUX at 16 Jun 2015 9.38pm

Quote legaleagle at 16 Jun 2015 9.11pm

Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 5.37pm

It is pointless comparing how indigenous non-Muslim people bring their kids up with how Muslims do. The have a very different set of 'values' and are religion-ridden. It is like a country within a country. We need to maintain diplomatic relations but be on guard.

Edited by derben (16 Jun 2015 5.37pm)


What precisely are your proposed solutions for seeking to reduce the number of impressionable "under age kids" or "young adults" in this country falling for IS' nonsense,and why in your view would they be likely to be both achievable and effective?


Derben makes a post about a lone rider.
Derben is Hols 'tabloid'.
Derben has no answers.

We should I, a member of 'the wider community', be expected to solve the problem of "impressionable under age kids' or young adults" going off to assist in the beheading and burning alive of people. Perhaps if the various Muslim spokesmen that appear in the media blaming the police, teachers and 'the wider community', spent more time on putting their house in order, it might help. However, at least they are leaving this country, hopefully never to return, which lessens the ever present possibility of them manifesting their 'impressionability' here.

You chose to mention a native causing mayhem abroad.
I guess I missed your similar thread regarding Blair.
Or is that a work in progress.............?

If you are refering to me..I have not started a thread on Blair,but I will if you want.
Should be tried for war crimes,and made to pay compensation to all the british soldiers who died or were injured out of his own pocket.


End thread.


No bud, I wasn't.
A good night I guess

 

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derben Flag 16 Jun 15 10.24pm

Quote TUX at 16 Jun 2015 10.09pm

Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 9.50pm

Quote TUX at 16 Jun 2015 9.38pm

Quote legaleagle at 16 Jun 2015 9.11pm

Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 5.37pm

It is pointless comparing how indigenous non-Muslim people bring their kids up with how Muslims do. The have a very different set of 'values' and are religion-ridden. It is like a country within a country. We need to maintain diplomatic relations but be on guard.

Edited by derben (16 Jun 2015 5.37pm)


What precisely are your proposed solutions for seeking to reduce the number of impressionable "under age kids" or "young adults" in this country falling for IS' nonsense,and why in your view would they be likely to be both achievable and effective?


Derben makes a post about a lone rider.
Derben is Hols 'tabloid'.
Derben has no answers.

We should I, a member of 'the wider community', be expected to solve the problem of "impressionable under age kids' or young adults" going off to assist in the beheading and burning alive of people. Perhaps if the various Muslim spokesmen that appear in the media blaming the police, teachers and 'the wider community', spent more time on putting their house in order, it might help. However, at least they are leaving this country, hopefully never to return, which lessens the ever present possibility of them manifesting their 'impressionability' here.

You chose to mention a native causing mayhem abroad.
I guess I missed your similar thread regarding Blair.
Or is that a work in progress.............?


LOL, and you say I have no answers!

 

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derben Flag 16 Jun 15 10.30pm

Another dose of common sense. (enjoy TUX)

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legaleagle Flag 16 Jun 15 10.31pm

Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 9.50pm

Quote TUX at 16 Jun 2015 9.38pm

Quote legaleagle at 16 Jun 2015 9.11pm

Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 5.37pm

It is pointless comparing how indigenous non-Muslim people bring their kids up with how Muslims do. The have a very different set of 'values' and are religion-ridden. It is like a country within a country. We need to maintain diplomatic relations but be on guard.

Edited by derben (16 Jun 2015 5.37pm)


What precisely are your proposed solutions for seeking to reduce the number of impressionable "under age kids" or "young adults" in this country falling for IS' nonsense,and why in your view would they be likely to be both achievable and effective?


Derben makes a post about a lone rider.
Derben is Hols 'tabloid'.
Derben has no answers.

We should I, a member of 'the wider community', be expected to solve the problem of "impressionable under age kids' or young adults" going off to assist in the beheading and burning alive of people. Perhaps if the various Muslim spokesmen that appear in the media blaming the police, teachers and 'the wider community', spent more time on putting their house in order, it might help. However, at least they are leaving this country, hopefully never to return, which lessens the ever present possibility of them manifesting their 'impressionability' here.


OK,so you have no ideas at all in response to my question beyond blaming "muslims" and your contribution to the debate is limited to posts such as referring to the inherent general difference in child rearing between "indigenous non muslims" and muslims. So,in your view, there's seemingly nothing anyone else here can do or can be expected to do.

Fair enough,move on.

And,for the avoidance of doubt,I personally do not think the "muslim community" have zero part to play in reducing numbers of impressionable under age kids and young adults from swallowing IS' nonsense.

Out of interest, how many muslims have you known personally, as neighbours,friends or workmates?


Edited by legaleagle (16 Jun 2015 10.33pm)

 

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derben Flag 16 Jun 15 10.35pm

Quote legaleagle at 16 Jun 2015 10.31pm

Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 9.50pm

Quote TUX at 16 Jun 2015 9.38pm

Quote legaleagle at 16 Jun 2015 9.11pm

Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 5.37pm

It is pointless comparing how indigenous non-Muslim people bring their kids up with how Muslims do. The have a very different set of 'values' and are religion-ridden. It is like a country within a country. We need to maintain diplomatic relations but be on guard.

Edited by derben (16 Jun 2015 5.37pm)


What precisely are your proposed solutions for seeking to reduce the number of impressionable "under age kids" or "young adults" in this country falling for IS' nonsense,and why in your view would they be likely to be both achievable and effective?


Derben makes a post about a lone rider.
Derben is Hols 'tabloid'.
Derben has no answers.

We should I, a member of 'the wider community', be expected to solve the problem of "impressionable under age kids' or young adults" going off to assist in the beheading and burning alive of people. Perhaps if the various Muslim spokesmen that appear in the media blaming the police, teachers and 'the wider community', spent more time on putting their house in order, it might help. However, at least they are leaving this country, hopefully never to return, which lessens the ever present possibility of them manifesting their 'impressionability' here.


OK,so you have no ideas at all in response to my question beyond blaming "muslims" and your contribution to the debate is limited to posts such as referring to the inherent general difference in child rearing between "indigenous non muslims" and muslims. So,in your view, there's seemingly nothing anyone else here can do or can be expected to do.

Fair enough,move on.

And,for the avoidance of doubt,I personally do not think the "muslim community" have zero part to play in reducing numbers of impressionable under age kids and young adults from swallowing IS' nonsense.

Out of interest, how many muslims have you known personally, as neighbours,friends or workmates?


Edited by legaleagle (16 Jun 2015 10.33pm)

I used to see Abu Hamza al-Masri down the pub now and again, or in the bookies, you know when he wasn't in the benefits office.

Is that my view? What we could do, is crack down harder on Islamic extremism in this country.

Edited by derben (16 Jun 2015 10.37pm)

 

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