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Quote susmik at 19 Oct 2015 5.22pm
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Immigration up 20% since 2010. This list goes on and on..... And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance.
Happy to oblige.
I did not write the article Kermit did I ? But was only highlighting the fact he is a known liar !!!!! Well yes and know, he may be a deceptive little toe rag but that doesn't immediately follow that report was also untrue, or devoid of facts - just unreliable. Usually if you're going to discredit a statement, you also have to tackle the salient points. Just pointing out that someone is liar is itself a deflection, it doesn't follow that the reverse is immediately true. I am guessing you meant yes and NO.....? Surely if he is a known liar and untruths are his portfolio then it stands to reason most if not ALL of what he spouts is not the truth. As for tackling the salient points why should we believe ANYTHING he posts or sticks on twitter??? I think its best to just to ignore him and find better honest and accurate opinions online don't you???
David Cameron deceived the people over his relationship with Andy Coulson and Rebecca Brookes, there for nothing he says can be relied up, and we must assume that the Conservative party is led by a liar and all he ever says are lies? Why are you changing toe subject to suit yourself.......I posted a comment on the fact that this guy in question was a toe rag and a liar....why are you making a big big thing out of it and switching things to our prime minister.....On second thoughts do not answer that as I can guess you will go in for a long winded reply and try and baffle everyone with science as you always do.....Forget I mentioned the guys in the first place as I cannot be arsed to keep you occupied all day on your computer!!!! Its a 'same rules apply' idea. Basically, its politics, they're all liars and deception artists. I don't doubt the guy is shifty, but the focus of the argument wasn't about him, by making it about him you deflect from the issues that the poster engaged with - which were 'failures' of the Conservative government.
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 Oct 2015 9.49am
Quote susmik at 19 Oct 2015 5.22pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Oct 2015 3.58pm
Quote susmik at 19 Oct 2015 3.01pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Oct 2015 11.30am
Quote susmik at 18 Oct 2015 2.00pm
Quote Kermit8 at 18 Oct 2015 1.48pm
Quote susmik at 18 Oct 2015 1.11pm
Quote nickgusset at 16 Oct 2015 12.31pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Oct 2015 12.25pm
Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm
Immigration up 20% since 2010. This list goes on and on..... And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance.
Happy to oblige.
I did not write the article Kermit did I ? But was only highlighting the fact he is a known liar !!!!! Well yes and know, he may be a deceptive little toe rag but that doesn't immediately follow that report was also untrue, or devoid of facts - just unreliable. Usually if you're going to discredit a statement, you also have to tackle the salient points. Just pointing out that someone is liar is itself a deflection, it doesn't follow that the reverse is immediately true. I am guessing you meant yes and NO.....? Surely if he is a known liar and untruths are his portfolio then it stands to reason most if not ALL of what he spouts is not the truth. As for tackling the salient points why should we believe ANYTHING he posts or sticks on twitter??? I think its best to just to ignore him and find better honest and accurate opinions online don't you???
David Cameron deceived the people over his relationship with Andy Coulson and Rebecca Brookes, there for nothing he says can be relied up, and we must assume that the Conservative party is led by a liar and all he ever says are lies? Why are you changing toe subject to suit yourself.......I posted a comment on the fact that this guy in question was a toe rag and a liar....why are you making a big big thing out of it and switching things to our prime minister.....On second thoughts do not answer that as I can guess you will go in for a long winded reply and try and baffle everyone with science as you always do.....Forget I mentioned the guys in the first place as I cannot be arsed to keep you occupied all day on your computer!!!! Its a 'same rules apply' idea. Basically, its politics, they're all liars and deception artists. I don't doubt the guy is shifty, but the focus of the argument wasn't about him, by making it about him you deflect from the issues that the poster engaged with - which were 'failures' of the Conservative government.
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Quote Superfly at 20 Oct 2015 12.01pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 Oct 2015 9.49am
Quote susmik at 19 Oct 2015 5.22pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Oct 2015 3.58pm
Quote susmik at 19 Oct 2015 3.01pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Oct 2015 11.30am
Quote susmik at 18 Oct 2015 2.00pm
Quote Kermit8 at 18 Oct 2015 1.48pm
Quote susmik at 18 Oct 2015 1.11pm
Quote nickgusset at 16 Oct 2015 12.31pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Oct 2015 12.25pm
Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm
Immigration up 20% since 2010. This list goes on and on..... And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance.
Happy to oblige.
I did not write the article Kermit did I ? But was only highlighting the fact he is a known liar !!!!! Well yes and know, he may be a deceptive little toe rag but that doesn't immediately follow that report was also untrue, or devoid of facts - just unreliable. Usually if you're going to discredit a statement, you also have to tackle the salient points. Just pointing out that someone is liar is itself a deflection, it doesn't follow that the reverse is immediately true. I am guessing you meant yes and NO.....? Surely if he is a known liar and untruths are his portfolio then it stands to reason most if not ALL of what he spouts is not the truth. As for tackling the salient points why should we believe ANYTHING he posts or sticks on twitter??? I think its best to just to ignore him and find better honest and accurate opinions online don't you???
David Cameron deceived the people over his relationship with Andy Coulson and Rebecca Brookes, there for nothing he says can be relied up, and we must assume that the Conservative party is led by a liar and all he ever says are lies? Why are you changing toe subject to suit yourself.......I posted a comment on the fact that this guy in question was a toe rag and a liar....why are you making a big big thing out of it and switching things to our prime minister.....On second thoughts do not answer that as I can guess you will go in for a long winded reply and try and baffle everyone with science as you always do.....Forget I mentioned the guys in the first place as I cannot be arsed to keep you occupied all day on your computer!!!! Its a 'same rules apply' idea. Basically, its politics, they're all liars and deception artists. I don't doubt the guy is shifty, but the focus of the argument wasn't about him, by making it about him you deflect from the issues that the poster engaged with - which were 'failures' of the Conservative government.
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Whether or not you think the Labour party wrecked the economy (I don't), it's actually the case that the Tories would have done exactly the same as this from the BBC before the proper start of the crisis in September 2007 demonstrates: "a Conservative government would match Labour's projected public spending totals for the next three years, shadow chancellor George Osborne has said." (sorry, I can't find the link, but I'll keep looking and post if I do find it.
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Quote rmdavis02 at 21 Oct 2015 12.36pm
Whether or not you think the Labour party wrecked the economy (I don't), it's actually the case that the Tories would have done exactly the same as this from the BBC before the proper start of the crisis in September 2007 demonstrates: "a Conservative government would match Labour's projected public spending totals for the next three years, shadow chancellor George Osborne has said." (sorry, I can't find the link, but I'll keep looking and post if I do find it.
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Quote oldcodger at 21 Oct 2015 12.44pm
there was a global crisis, and whoever was in power would've been in the same position since they declared the same policy towards spending. It's all spin. We manufacture the past rather than learn from it. Not necessarily as a good part of our financial problems were down to reckless lending by the banks aided and abetted by the regulator's light hand on the tiller as instructed by Blair and Brown
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Quote Midlands Eagle at 21 Oct 2015 2.26pm
Quote oldcodger at 21 Oct 2015 12.44pm
there was a global crisis, and whoever was in power would've been in the same position since they declared the same policy towards spending. It's all spin. We manufacture the past rather than learn from it. Not necessarily as a good part of our financial problems were down to reckless lending by the banks aided and abetted by the regulator's light hand on the tiller as instructed by Blair and Brown But the Tories wanted an even lighter touch, so it was simply a case of who got lumbered with the situation at the time. I don't vote for either party, I'm just pointing out that it's a politicians job to pretend it would've all been different on their watch, when everything here suggests that it wouldn't have been.
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I can't believe that none of this came out at the last election. The Tory victory was wholly based on the false premise that Labour wrecked the economy. All Labour had to do was wheel out the 2007 quote from George Osborne and say, "if that's true, then you would have done exactly the same". Just another indication of what an abject and unforgivable failure Labour's campaign was.
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Quote chris123 at 16 Oct 2015 12.57pm
Quote nickgusset at 16 Oct 2015 12.51pm
Quote chris123 at 16 Oct 2015 12.43pm
Quote nickgusset at 16 Oct 2015 12.31pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Oct 2015 12.25pm
Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm
Immigration up 20% since 2010. This list goes on and on..... And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance.
Happy to oblige.
Doesn't answer any of the points on that listlist. Try again. Well if you read you'd note some doubt expressed the aspersions of Eoin Clarke. New to this post but Guido Fawkes hates Labour and will always rubbish opposition claims.
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Quote Midlands Eagle at 21 Oct 2015 2.26pm
Quote oldcodger at 21 Oct 2015 12.44pm
there was a global crisis, and whoever was in power would've been in the same position since they declared the same policy towards spending. It's all spin. We manufacture the past rather than learn from it. Not necessarily as a good part of our financial problems were down to reckless lending by the banks aided and abetted by the regulator's light hand on the tiller as instructed by Blair and Brown Of course, but the Tories had been insisting from their opposition benches that they wanted even lighter touch at regulation. Where would we have been then and now? Isn't it also funny how the government is allowed to nationalise banks, but can do nothing for the steel industry And, only this last week the Tories are going on about how marvellous this bollox law about running a surplus in "normal times" (WTF that is I have no idea), yet there is clear evidence within Gideon's recent past that he said introduction of such a law is nothing but deception.
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Ssssh don't let the facts get in the way of partisan politics. Remember x is good and always right, b is always bad and to blame. Obey, consume and never watch the wires.
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Quote Dweeb at 22 Oct 2015 8.49am
Isn't it also funny how the government is allowed to nationalise banks, but can do nothing for the steel industry And, only this last week the Tories are going on about how marvellous this bollox law about running a surplus in "normal times" (WTF that is I have no idea), yet there is clear evidence within Gideon's recent past that he said introduction of such a law is nothing but deception. Edited by Dweeb (22 Oct 2015 8.55am)
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