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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
There probably is by now.
Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jul 2017 3.23pm)
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Sounds like Michael Jackson's last words. You need to get away from the computer and out into the sun.....Mind you aren't I encouraging you to expose yourself here? I take no responsibility for any criminal proceedings brought against you. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jul 2017 3.03pm) Even though all those murders was your idea?
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Trans gender Bond? White Shaft? I reckon you should start a crowd sourced funding project. I think you could make an interesting film with a Bond character who was Transgendered. I'm not sure you could call it a bond film per se. But it reminds me of the Elsewhere comic books where you got different takes on classic characters based on different interpretations (similarly a Transgender Bruce Wayne would make for an interesting tale). White Shaft would surely be just about every hard boiled detective story, but with Jazz rather than Funk as the theme
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I think you are perhaps showing your prejudices here Jamie. I have no idea why you regard masculinity as not being associated with 'intelligence, cunning and wit to win' ......Would you also say this of femininity? Because of just about every action hero out there. Man fights, batters and kills his way through a wave of problems, to achieve the goal and get the girl. That's the gender stereotype of the male hero. Which is probably why I'm not a fan of action movies. I'm talking here about gender identity in movies and TV rather than reality. The likes of Sherlock Holmes and Dr Who are unusual compared to the typical brutish, brooding male hero archtype, who is physically very capable and dispatches his problems with a selection of quips and distanced humanity. Oddly, I like Bond, because he's very much that archtype, but over the years different takes have explored that in different ways. If we were to see a Female James Bond (Jane Bond) I'd like to see her take a different approach, otherwise its just James Bond in a dress. I quite liked Alias, which is basically a female James Bond, so I am quite conflicted.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Trans gender Bond? White Shaft? I reckon you should start a crowd sourced funding project. Transgender has got to be one the easiest ways to reboot or re-examine an established character, in a very different way. That said an Asexual Bond would be an oddity (especially if you when down the actually asexual rather than the idea of non-sexual).
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Weren't Sherlock Holmes and Watson lovers and the pipe was a metaphor for mutual oral intercourse? I think they even use terminology such as "Watson aroused Sherlock" and "Sherlock ejaculated excitedly".
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I hope you can recover. The films did not really compliment the series as they do not adhere to Dr Who canon. I'll be fine! Yes I totally get that the character in the films bears no relation at all to the TV Doctor. I still love Invasion Earth though. I love how London of 2150 is basically London of 1966 with just one tall building (Post Office Tower - just built) and slightly more rubble lying around. Not so keen on its predecessor 'Dr Who and the Daleks' which is a bit boring!
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Transgender has got to be one the easiest ways to reboot or re-examine an established character, in a very different way. That said an Asexual Bond would be an oddity (especially if you when down the actually asexual rather than the idea of non-sexual). There are a few on here I wish were hermaphrodites. Then they could go f*** themselves.
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Weren't Sherlock Holmes and Watson lovers and the pipe was a metaphor for mutual oral intercourse? I think they even use terminology such as "Watson aroused Sherlock" and "Sherlock ejaculated excitedly". Its the original 'ill matched buddy cop team up'. Or bunk up. Though as Freud presented, often a cigar is just a cigar.
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Its the original 'ill matched buddy cop team up'. Or bunk up. Though as Freud presented, often a cigar is just a cigar. Yeah and next you'll be telling me Tess of the D'Urbervilles was actually just being fed strawberries by Alec. They were bonking mate.
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Originally posted by Part Time James
I have a white shaft. Matches my white bollocks. I bet its more red raw and your bollocks are bruised purple... Odd fact, around 1 in 10 men who are white have a dark p****. Friend of mine, who was keen on showing people pictures of him and his girlfriend, had one. They split up, because it turned out, she wasn't keen on people seeing her fellating cock.
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Yeah and next you'll be telling me Tess of the D'Urbervilles was actually just being fed strawberries by Alec. They were bonking mate. I thought Tess was raped. But I get what you mean, having done (oe-err) D. H. Lawrence in English Literature, I think I learned more about Freudian imagery than I did studying Psychology. Sometimes you just wish it was 'sopping clunge enveloping a throbbing member'. I f**king hate DH Lawrence - Its like p*** with all the sex taken out of context.
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I thought Tess was raped. But I get what you mean, having done (oe-err) D. H. Lawrence in English Literature, I think I learned more about Freudian imagery than I did studying Psychology. Sometimes you just wish it was 'sopping clunge enveloping a throbbing member'. I f**king hate DH Lawrence - Its like p*** with all the sex taken out of context. I don't think it was considered to be rape when a dashing man popped his strawberry in an under aged girl's gob without much more encouragement than a heaving breast and some eye fluttering in them days.
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I thought Tess was raped. But I get what you mean, having done (oe-err) D. H. Lawrence in English Literature, I think I learned more about Freudian imagery than I did studying Psychology. Sometimes you just wish it was 'sopping clunge enveloping a throbbing member'. I f**king hate DH Lawrence - Its like p*** with all the sex taken out of context. All imagery of Lillies and what not. Mind you some of the dialogue in Lady Chatterly is like some of the lowest comment denominator conversation in a football pub in Derbyshire/Yorkshire. 'Cvnt is cvnt' stuff. Probably similar to some hungover conversations in the lower holmesdale, desperately getting that hair of the dog down.
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Somehow things always get around to DH Lawrence.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Firstly Dr Who and James Bond are not comparable in this context. Bond is a White man because he was written that way. To make him Black would be a deliberate alteration of the whole character for the sole purpose of making him black. It would be as daft as making Shaft White.
There's no reason, therefore, why a Bond updated to the 21st century can't be any race, creed, colour, gender or sexual orientation. Shaft, conversely, is locked in because his race defines a significant portion of his character. Perhaps you could make Shaft a black female with a overcharged libido, but then the name takes on a slightly looser connotation. Maybe a gay black female, because that way she could still be a sex machine to all the chicks. Anyway, this stuff happens all the time. One of the more notable examples was in the original Alien, where Ripley was written as a man (and Sigourney Weaver was originally cast as whiny-Lambert). Now, Alien would've been fine with Ripley being male, but isn't the movie world a little brighter for having an arse-kicking lead female character like Ripley? So, Dr. Who, being an alien taking on human form, can take on whatever form it wants; Bond can be anything that's appropriate to the time period; and Shaft is always going to be black. There is no need to try and create an equivalency between any of these things; they are driven by the innate traits of character, not superficial looks.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
He could not be Bond in any universe. He can barely speak properly let alone be a suave spy. Denzel Washington might have pulled it off. If you've seen Chiwetel Ejiofor as the operative in "Serenity", you'll know that he has the sauve and the moves to play Bond.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
So you think that girls are short of 'strong female role models'? Well, they aren't....Star Wars, Ghostbusters, Wonder Woman,..We can't move for them and that's just in movies.... I've cut out all the generic mysoginy in your post, because it lack's the credibility necessary to earn a response, and I'll focus on the movie thing. Are you f***ing kidding? There have been 16 movies in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, none of which have featured a female character as the lead. There are 8 more scheduled, of which the same is true. Wonder Woman is part of the DC Comics universe which is, Catwoman aside, awash with dicks. Star Wars originally had one female lead amidst a sausage fest, and now it has a new one. It's one of the worst examples of gender equality in movie making ever; Leia had her moments but it was just her with hundreds of dudes and when the chips were down, the woman stayed at home while the men went off to fight. Ghostbusters is a remake converting male leads into female ones; which is fine, but it's hardly proof of gender equality in Hollywood when the vast majority of movies are still driven - almost exclusively - by male characters.
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