I'd have thought it was obvious from what I said that it was a NO.

People point out that we have a good squad but all things are relative. We might well have the best team we have ever had but this is the Premier League. The opposition is very strong.
The obvious question is, if you replaced Hodgson, who would you get that was better and would stay longer than 5 minutes?

Spot on! Other clubs are getting stronger too. We need to have the best squad ever simply to survive.

That Roy has helped us to do more than that this season (some people were dreaming of Europe only a week or so a go) is testament to how good a job he has done.

I, too, want to see more Palace goals at home and more entertainment BUT we can only achieve that if we have the right players. As has been said, when we had RL-C on loan we were more adventurous but the fact remains we don't have proven attacking midfielders in our squad, so what is Roy supposed to do? He can only work with what he's got. I'm still hopeful a couple of the youngsters (Pierrick and Mitchell) will get a decent run out before the season ends.

Whilst I understand your point, surely each season you simply play against the other teams that are put in front of you. If this notion that teams are getting better and better each year is to stand up to scrutiny, then does that mean that the players and teams were bang average 5/10 years ago? Yes you have to improve your squad, but managing a team is not just about going out there and spending loads of money.

Your manager has to be good in the transfer market as well as managing your existing players and this is another reason why I think Roy is no longer a good fit for us. He sees players like Cahill as the way forward. Great signing, great player but big wages and only a couple of seasons left in him. Roy likes and will only use tried and trusted players so there will never be a forward looking Palace team whilst he is in charge.

You don't have to spend massive amounts to stay in the PL especially if you look at say the Southampton model. The converse is that spending a fortune will not turn you into world beaters. Just ask Everton lol.

Have Chelsea had a world beating year by putting Frank in charge and have they spent fortunes, no. However he is building for the future and the young players he has there could end up being the next Man Utd of the Beckham era.

Spot on! Other clubs are getting stronger too. We need to have the best squad ever simply to survive.

That Roy has helped us to do more than that this season (some people were dreaming of Europe only a week or so a go) is testament to how good a job he has done.

I, too, want to see more Palace goals at home and more entertainment BUT we can only achieve that if we have the right players. As has been said, when we had RL-C on loan we were more adventurous but the fact remains we don't have proven attacking midfielders in our squad, so what is Roy supposed to do? He can only work with what he's got. I'm still hopeful a couple of the youngsters (Pierrick and Mitchell) will get a decent run out before the season ends.

I take your point too. Regarding Chelsea, though, they have so many players on their books and had good young players out on loan in recent years, and yet it took a transfer embargo before the club was prepared to put the better youngsters to the test. Would Frank have been allowed to blood them had there been no embargo? Remember, they are the club who let Lukaku, De Bruyne and Salah go! How stupid was that? Now that the current youngsters in the club have shown what they can do, Chelsea may well be vying for the title in a couple of years.

Meanwhile back to Palace and beyond Pierrick and Mitchell who do we have worth blooding? Dreher? Woods? I don't know because living in the Midlands I only get to the 1st team games.

Perhaps we should start another thread on the subject of which youngsters should be given a chance.

No.

I understand the criticisms levelled at Hodgson and from an entertainment perspective it's pretty dire.

Roy is all about pragmatism and organisation. That formula has seen us keep our Premier League status for the last three years. On the two occasions that Parish has endorsed a more expansive style we had major problems. Having Hodgson in the job mitigates the risk of relegation.

If you look at the clubs at the foot of the league, Norwich are easy on the eye and even easier to play against. Bournemouth have turned into a disorganised and dejected group with a manager that has run out of ideas. Villa spent big but not wisely and relegation and loss of their best player in the summer looks inevitable.

West Ham - spent big but have a large number of expensive underachievers. Brighton - ' Potterball ' largely abandoned as it was only taking them in one direction - down. As for Watford, they have imploded in fine style and only three worst teams will keep them up.

So the people that want Roy out, fine...and replace him with who ? Dyche looks a good fit but how long before people complain about his playing style ? Eddie Howe ? - looks shellshocked at the moment.

My dogged support of Roy continues

No.

I understand the criticisms levelled at Hodgson and from an entertainment perspective it's pretty dire.

Roy is all about pragmatism and organisation. That formula has seen us keep our Premier League status for the last three years. On the two occasions that Parish has endorsed a more expansive style we had major problems. Having Hodgson in the job mitigates the risk of relegation.

If you look at the clubs at the foot of the league, Norwich are easy on the eye and even easier to play against. Bournemouth have turned into a disorganised and dejected group with a manager that has run out of ideas. Villa spent big but not wisely and relegation and loss of their best player in the summer looks inevitable.

West Ham - spent big but have a large number of expensive underachievers. Brighton - ' Potterball ' largely abandoned as it was only taking them in one direction - down. As for Watford, they have imploded in fine style and only three worst teams will keep them up.

So the people that want Roy out, fine...and replace him with who ? Dyche looks a good fit but how long before people complain about his playing style ? Eddie Howe ? - looks shellshocked at the moment.

My dogged support of Roy continues

What’s the fascination with staying in the premier league? The hundreds of millions that we have had from the premier league/sky have inflated wages of crap players Wickham/Sako 50/60 grand a week?
When we are relegated we won’t be going down minted, just trying to offload mercenaries on stupid money, with a ground that’s had a bit of paint and cladding splashed about.
The atmosphere at Selhurst was great in the championship and first 2 years in the top league, no better than anywhere else now.
People may say we will have crowds of 14/16000, in the championship, so what?
Who here started going football to watch 10 players behind the ball at home to a mid table team and celebrate a nil nil?
I want goals, exciting games and Palace wins , not really bothered what league we are in, I’d prefer it to be the top league, but if not don’t care.
I don’t really think it matters who the manger is, they will all be sh*t scared to have a go at other teams , as they would fear the sack.
Manager and players perform with no freedom. The last really good game at Palace was Bournemouth last season, when the result didn’t matter and the players actually played.
The promised land isn’t what it promised, not interested in seeing the best players in the world play against us , I’m a Palace fan.
The top 6 in the championship is better fun than mid/lower table in the premier league, for me anyway.

What’s the fascination with staying in the premier league? The hundreds of millions that we have had from the premier league/sky have inflated wages of crap players Wickham/Sako 50/60 grand a week?
When we are relegated we won’t be going down minted, just trying to offload mercenaries on stupid money, with a ground that’s had a bit of paint and cladding splashed about.
The atmosphere at Selhurst was great in the championship and first 2 years in the top league, no better than anywhere else now.
People may say we will have crowds of 14/16000, in the championship, so what?
Who here started going football to watch 10 players behind the ball at home to a mid table team and celebrate a nil nil?
I want goals, exciting games and Palace wins , not really bothered what league we are in, I’d prefer it to be the top league, but if not don’t care.
I don’t really think it matters who the manger is, they will all be sh*t scared to have a go at other teams , as they would fear the sack.
Manager and players perform with no freedom. The last really good game at Palace was Bournemouth last season, when the result didn’t matter and the players actually played.
The promised land isn’t what it promised, not interested in seeing the best players in the world play against us , I’m a Palace fan.
The top 6 in the championship is better fun than mid/lower table in the premier league, for me anyway.