What is being missed by the Roy supporters on here is that the game has moved on. Fast passing through midfield, overlapping defenders, high pressing, cynical fouls to stop the opposition. It is the way Liverpool and Man City have played for the last 4 or 5 seasons. Even Jose has realised that his ultra defensive style was out-moded but he has adapted and you can see that in some recent Spurs matches. Bielsa, Potter, Santo, Lampard, Arteta are all working on the same principles.

The modern way is so different to how we play and not every team is built on the multi squillions that some think is the only way you can play a different brand of football. Get with the new way of playing or stagnate until every team in the league overtakes you or works out how to break you down.

There are only two teams in the league that play as Palace do and the other is Burnley. Fulham/West Brom try but are not good enough, Southampton look good going forward but can't defend and Sheffield Utd are being found out this year by the look of things. There may be 3 worse teams than us fortunately but that is the only way I can see us staying up playing the football we do. We are a dinosaur in a new wave of football.

I know, what is coming, there will be the normal bleats that our players are not good enough to play any different, but I don't buy that. Our players do what they are told and Roy ultimately decides who we buy, who plays and how we play. I don't need to go into the arguments for players being left out or out of position because we know them already and they have been done to death.

You know what senior pros think of us when the highest praise you hear on tv is that Palace make it difficult for the opposition, which is short for we play a boring brand of park the bus.

What is being missed by the Roy haters on here is the fact that all his supporters understand fully that he is not going to be around for very long, the trouble we supporters of him have is that when the new man comes in we are a financially stable club and this is what Mr Hodgson is achieving, it is quite obvious that all his supporters want the same thing that all his haters want ...which is attractive attacking football.
I want him to stay because it guarantees our safety and that is all, can we please just keep off him until he leaves.

Why should we, that’s the clubs job, however If you want suggestions I would take Bielsa or Santo in a heartbeat.

You have to remember Roy will be gone soon whatever. Sack is a very dramatic word to use, he needs to be replaced and the decision is an important one. Watford’s owners don’t understand football so comparing us with them is a poor choice. Some of their managers were decent to be fair (excluding Pearson of course who is just a thug).

Why should we, that’s the clubs job, however If you want suggestions I would take Bielsa or Santo in a heartbeat.

You have to remember Roy will be gone soon whatever. Sack is a very dramatic word to use, he needs to be replaced and the decision is an important one. Watford’s owners don’t understand football so comparing us with them is a poor choice. Some of their managers were decent to be fair (excluding Pearson of course who is just a thug).

On Saturday we had four attacking players on the pitch and none of them performed. I thought all four were poor. Not down to tactics - none of them did anything with the ball and surrendered it far too easily
MacArthur and McCarthy were lauded for their performances at United but also didn’t pass the ball forward enough either albeit there was an element of Kante possibly the best holding midfield player in the world breaking things up all time.
At 2-0 McArthur hung a lovely ball up in the six yard box that just needed someone to attack and head in. Sakho had a nightmare and things then fell apart.
The manager can only do so much and sometimes you need to look at the players.

The only thing personal is the fact we all want the same thing, which is goals goals goals and, good solid defending, Roy has when all fully fit a good solid bunch of defenders to pick from and he understands how to coach them into keeping us in this league which is what he's achieved very well so far improving year on year and this has been done without the very very necessity of a decent Murray/Benteke type player to make the most of any opportunities that come along high and low.

Eze looks very good on the ball and Chelsea dealt with him with countless fouls when the score was 0-0 and 1-0 and 2-0, this is going to happen to him and Ayew and Zaha every game until we can find a good out and out striker to occupy opposing players away from them enough to help our attacks, this is all just to fill in the gap until our very decent manager leaves and the new one appears who I also hope will play the football you so desire.

I did not mean to be personal to you or any of the other fans who want to see Mr Hodgson go, I see it as frustration on my part, often I don't even look at the poster's name when I respond at the beginning.

In the final analysis, Roy Hodgson has secured PL survival in successive seasons on a relative pittance and on the back of long-term injuries.

Supporters might get frustrated at the style of play and the dearth of goals but PL survival is the sole aim of the club and he has met his objectives.The end has justified the means.

surviving is not living