What is being missed by the Roy supporters on here is that the game has moved on. Fast passing through midfield, overlapping defenders, high pressing, cynical fouls to stop the opposition. It is the way Liverpool and Man City have played for the last 4 or 5 seasons. Even Jose has realised that his ultra defensive style was out-moded but he has adapted and you can see that in some recent Spurs matches. Bielsa, Potter, Santo, Lampard, Arteta are all working on the same principles.

The modern way is so different to how we play and not every team is built on the multi squillions that some think is the only way you can play a different brand of football. Get with the new way of playing or stagnate until every team in the league overtakes you or works out how to break you down.

There are only two teams in the league that play as Palace do and the other is Burnley. Fulham/West Brom try but are not good enough, Southampton look good going forward but can't defend and Sheffield Utd are being found out this year by the look of things. There may be 3 worse teams than us fortunately but that is the only way I can see us staying up playing the football we do. We are a dinosaur in a new wave of football.

I know, what is coming, there will be the normal bleats that our players are not good enough to play any different, but I don't buy that. Our players do what they are told and Roy ultimately decides who we buy, who plays and how we play. I don't need to go into the arguments for players being left out or out of position because we know them already and they have been done to death.

You know what senior pros think of us when the highest praise you hear on tv is that Palace make it difficult for the opposition, which is short for we play a boring brand of park the bus.

What is being missed by the Roy haters on here is the fact that all his supporters understand fully that he is not going to be around for very long, the trouble we supporters of him have is that when the new man comes in we are a financially stable club and this is what Mr Hodgson is achieving, it is quite obvious that all his supporters want the same thing that all his haters want ...which is attractive attacking football.
I want him to stay because it guarantees our safety and that is all, can we please just keep off him until he leaves.

You make it sound almost personal. I certainly don’t hate Roy, I just don’t like his brand of football which I consider old fashioned. Nothing guarantees safety btw.

When will one of you offer up a suggestion as to who would replace him? So far I have only read of two proposals. Howe, can't survive a relegation struggle. Dyche, plays a similar style to ours. Make a proper suggestion if you want to sack the manager.

Or do we just hire anyone, then sack them when they lose a game? Like Watford did......

With so many players around 30 years old, can we consistently play this high energy pressing game needed to start on the front foot ? I thought this is why we were supposed to be bringing down the average age of the team ? (2 permanent signings later, with one still injured).

I suspect Roy is here until he decides to call it day. Then we will be in the frantic mess for a new manager we normally are in.