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Stirlingsays Flag 16 Aug 21 7.58pm

Originally posted by DanH

Most women wouldn’t give you five minutes of their time by the way. Which is probably much longer than you could give them.

Very childish, even if it did make me smile.

It's also just more evidence of how little you know beta boy.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2021 7.59pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Matov Flag 16 Aug 21 8.30pm

To be honest, I blame men for a lot of what could be considered unfeminine behaviour from women because they essentially aid it.

You meet a lady and she behaves in a way that you consider uncouth then just back straight off. Nobody forces you to go with her and whilst she should be free to choose and behave how she wants, you are also free to cut all contact.

Men need to have higher standards rather than just acting like Dogs who will happily rut with any bitch they can. Show some decorum themselves. Plenty of nice girls out there but you might actually have to make an effort to court them rather than just paying for a night out and expecting some honey at the end of it.

Be a genuine rebel male. Don't get tattoos yourself. Don't drink in s***ty pubs/clubs or stick powder up your noses. Go to Church and meet girls there. Or join a Choir. You might laugh at that but trust me, it's good for your mental health and packed with women, many of them single. Even pay a few quid and join a decent dating site.

Be the kind of bloke you might want any future daughter you might have to marry.

Now, most of the most predatory men I know all tend to pretend to be left-wing and woke but there is also a tendency for some on the Right to be less than courteous towards women as well.

Actually, look for a wife. Somebody you would sacrifice your life for. Somebody who will nurture your children. Not just a quick bunk-up. And get married. Church, local hall, buffet, disco and plenty of laughs. That's it. £5k tops. Any more and its just showing off.

These Incels don't get women because they are t***s. As simple as that.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 16 Aug 21 8.49pm

Originally posted by Matov

To be honest, I blame men for a lot of what could be considered unfeminine behaviour from women because they essentially aid it.

You meet a lady and she behaves in a way that you consider uncouth then just back straight off. Nobody forces you to go with her and whilst she should be free to choose and behave how she wants, you are also free to cut all contact.

Men need to have higher standards rather than just acting like Dogs who will happily rut with any bitch they can. Show some decorum themselves. Plenty of nice girls out there but you might actually have to make an effort to court them rather than just paying for a night out and expecting some honey at the end of it.

Be a genuine rebel male. Don't get tattoos yourself. Don't drink in s***ty pubs/clubs or stick powder up your noses. Go to Church and meet girls there. Or join a Choir. You might laugh at that but trust me, it's good for your mental health and packed with women, many of them single. Even pay a few quid and join a decent dating site.

Be the kind of bloke you might want any future daughter you might have to marry.

Now, most of the most predatory men I know all tend to pretend to be left-wing and woke but there is also a tendency for some on the Right to be less than courteous towards women as well.

Actually, look for a wife. Somebody you would sacrifice your life for. Somebody who will nurture your children. Not just a quick bunk-up. And get married. Church, local hall, buffet, disco and plenty of laughs. That's it. £5k tops. Any more and its just showing off.

These Incels don't get women because they are t***s. As simple as that.

You are making an argument for socially conservative behaviour, which I would of course agree with.

However we live in a neo liberal society and all the messaging given both by government and corporations is that no legal lifestyle is better than any other (which is a patent lie) and the sociological information about outcomes is hidden in a sea of positive liberalised messaging....because those idealogs are the only ones allowed to speak.

A lot of these neo liberals living nice 'well to do' lifestyles are of course hyper hypocrites because while they advocate for feminism and alphabet 'anything goes and everything's equal' waffle their own life is often conservative in nature and tone....even if they don't vote that way....but of course a lack of self reflection saves them from thoughts like that.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2021 8.51pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 16 Aug 21 9.51pm

Originally posted by Matov

To be honest, I blame men for a lot of what could be considered unfeminine behaviour from women because they essentially aid it.

You meet a lady and she behaves in a way that you consider uncouth then just back straight off. Nobody forces you to go with her and whilst she should be free to choose and behave how she wants, you are also free to cut all contact.

Men need to have higher standards rather than just acting like Dogs who will happily rut with any bitch they can. Show some decorum themselves. Plenty of nice girls out there but you might actually have to make an effort to court them rather than just paying for a night out and expecting some honey at the end of it.

Be a genuine rebel male. Don't get tattoos yourself. Don't drink in s***ty pubs/clubs or stick powder up your noses. Go to Church and meet girls there. Or join a Choir. You might laugh at that but trust me, it's good for your mental health and packed with women, many of them single. Even pay a few quid and join a decent dating site.

Be the kind of bloke you might want any future daughter you might have to marry.

Now, most of the most predatory men I know all tend to pretend to be left-wing and woke but there is also a tendency for some on the Right to be less than courteous towards women as well.

Actually, look for a wife. Somebody you would sacrifice your life for. Somebody who will nurture your children. Not just a quick bunk-up. And get married. Church, local hall, buffet, disco and plenty of laughs. That's it. £5k tops. Any more and its just showing off.

These Incels don't get women because they are t***s. As simple as that.

Another great post! I once saw teenagers teasing a pal for going to church, they were all typical acting hard "rebels", I said he is actually the rebel going to church!

 

Stirlingsays Flag 16 Aug 21 10.08pm

Originally posted by Matov

These Incels don't get women because they are t***s. As simple as that.

There will always be people born disadvantaged compared to the average...for an average to exist that's reality.

Some are just physically ugly or mentally low IQ...whatever it is that puts them down the average female's desirability list.

However, the society they exist in does have a significant role in the messaging to males and it reflects just how many find themselves in that position. You have written common sense advice from a socially conservative perspective on the kind of direction young males should take.....I'd add looking after themselves physically and building polite but assertive social skills....because interaction is highly important.

But not everyone has good people around them....many come from broken homes and get bad upbringings. This has always happened under any system but the numbers of those people are a reflection of the social messaging and pressures that exist within the society they live in.

We only have to look at the demonization basic masculinity gets....it's madness and only worsens outcomes.


Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2021 10.09pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

DanH Flag SW2 17 Aug 21 2.50pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There will always be people born disadvantaged compared to the average...for an average to exist that's reality.

Some are just physically ugly or mentally low IQ...whatever it is that puts them down the average female's desirability list.

However, the society they exist in does have a significant role in the messaging to males and it reflects just how many find themselves in that position. You have written common sense advice from a socially conservative perspective on the kind of direction young males should take.....I'd add looking after themselves physically and building polite but assertive social skills....because interaction is highly important.

But not everyone has good people around them....many come from broken homes and get bad upbringings. This has always happened under any system but the numbers of those people are a reflection of the social messaging and pressures that exist within the society they live in.

We only have to look at the demonization basic masculinity gets....it's madness and only worsens outcomes.


Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2021 10.09pm)

Sorry what basic masculinity has been demonised exactly?

 

Stirlingsays Flag 17 Aug 21 2.58pm

Originally posted by DanH

Sorry what basic masculinity has been demonised exactly?

?

Have you been asleep for the last thirty years?

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Aug 21 3.04pm

Originally posted by DanH

Sorry what basic masculinity has been demonised exactly?

Wolf whistle, opening doors, complimenting them.
All stuff men love to do but are now demonised for doing. Funnily enough if real hetrosexual women; not big butch LGBTYDFJK (infinitum) ones; were actually asked what they thought of the above being an issue it would be laughed at by a massive majority.
Next!

 

DanH Flag SW2 17 Aug 21 3.17pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

?

Have you been asleep for the last thirty years?

I’m all ears.

 

DanH Flag SW2 17 Aug 21 3.21pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Wolf whistle, opening doors, complimenting them.
All stuff men love to do but are now demonised for doing. Funnily enough if real hetrosexual women; not big butch LGBTYDFJK (infinitum) ones; were actually asked what they thought of the above being an issue it would be laughed at by a massive majority.
Next!

Haha this a pathetic response. You don’t talk to a lot of women do you?

Go and ask women how they feel about someone wolf whistling them and see what kind of response you get.

When has anyone ever demonised someone for opening a door for someone?

And it depends what the compliment is doesn’t it? There’s a difference between ‘nice dress’ and ‘nice dress, it makes your tits looks great’ isn’t there?

A lot of women feel uncomfortable getting compliments from men, especially from strangers, as it can come across as a sexual advance and just creepy.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 17 Aug 21 3.32pm

Originally posted by DanH

I’m all ears.

Again...you say unlinked to stuff all the time....coming out with tarty and emotional stuff that I never ask for links for because I know its pointless tart stuff.

But you're all about double standards aren't you Dan so apparently I have to show you how eggs are sucked.

I can direct you to books....this one is actually written by a feminist (Christina Hoff Sommers) from the sixties who is dismayed at the direction feminism took against masculinity..and this was published in 2008 ages ago now.

[Link]

Research a review of it if you want.

Rather than me writing another long post here's a blog about these attacks from three years ago....prompted from the successful attack on the boy scouts.

[Link]

Get your ears filled then.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2021 3.33pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays Flag 17 Aug 21 3.38pm

Originally posted by DanH

Haha this a pathetic response. You don’t talk to a lot of women do you?

Go and ask women how they feel about someone wolf whistling them and see what kind of response you get.

When has anyone ever demonised someone for opening a door for someone?

And it depends what the compliment is doesn’t it? There’s a difference between ‘nice dress’ and ‘nice dress, it makes your tits looks great’ isn’t there?

A lot of women feel uncomfortable getting compliments from men, especially from strangers, as it can come across as a sexual advance and just creepy.

Cool, and maybe it is sometimes.

However you do realise that the species needs to reproduce and not every male gets a masterclass in 'how to successfully get laid'.

Also there's the fact of objectivity over this, women are fine when it's someone they consider 'hot'.....when it's someone less desirable it's suddenly 'creepy'.

And look....I think women are wonderful but If you're going to be fair to both sexes then you need to look at both sides.....and when women approach men it's hardly subtle either....with the standard being wearing little and putting themselves in their vicinity until they get an actual approach....and then any crossed wires are all the male's fault.

And men don't complain do they, because most of them aren't tarts.


Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2021 3.39pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

DanH Flag SW2 17 Aug 21 3.40pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Again...you say unlinked to stuff all the time....coming out with tarty and emotional stuff that I never ask for links for because I know its pointless tart stuff.

But you're all about double standards aren't you Dan so apparently I have to show you how eggs are sucked.

I can direct you to books....this one is actually written by a feminist (Christina Hoff Sommers) from the sixties who is dismayed at the direction feminism took against masculinity..and this was published in 2008 ages ago now.

[Link]

Research a review of it if you want.

Rather than me writing another long post here's a blog about these attacks from three years ago....prompted from the successful attack on the boy scouts.

[Link]

Get your ears filled then.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2021 3.33pm)

I'll do some reading after I've finished work but you seriously want me to read something written by this guy and take it seriously?

'Jon Anthony is a lifestyle design coach, who teaches men how to improve their dating skills, get in better shape, and make more money. He enjoys talking about workout supplements like SARMs, cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin and Ethereum, and dating techniques that men can use to improve their love lives.'

It's Bros like that that convince the rest of you there's a problem.

 

DanH Flag SW2 17 Aug 21 3.44pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Cool, and maybe it is sometimes.

However you do realise that the species needs to reproduce and not every male gets a masterclass in 'how to successfully get laid'.

Also there's the fact of objectivity over this, women are fine when it's someone they consider 'hot'.....when it's someone less desirable it's suddenly 'creepy'.

And look....I think women are wonderful but If you're going to be fair to both sexes then you need to look at both sides.....and when women approach men it's hardly subtle either....with the standard being wearing little and putting themselves in their vicinity until they get an actual approach....and then any crossed wires are all the male's fault.

And men don't complain do they, because most of them aren't tarts.


Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2021 3.39pm)

As a man (and an apparent 'alpha' one at that) you seem to know a lot about how women think and what they like.

Women can wear that they want without fear of being touched up or worse by men. Any 'crossed wires' (nice euphemism for sexual assault or rape) are all the male's fault unless consent has been given.

 

EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 17 Aug 21 3.46pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There are whole books that can be written and probably have been on this topic.

Anyone with an appreciation of history can certainly see how the feministic and unrealistic messaging given to today's girls bares little resemblance to what's likely to give them the most chance of happiness in life compared to the past.

What do you think 'happiness' looked like for women in the 50s compared to now?

Do you think the same things which made women record high happiness levels in 1950s would make today's women happy?

Logically, if the sum of your ambition is to knock out a few kids and to hope your husband doesn't drink too much, you're likely to be much more easily pleased - that doesn't make it something to aspire to.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 17 Aug 21 3.47pm

Originally posted by DanH

I'll do some reading after I've finished work but you seriously want me to read something written by this guy and take it seriously?

'Jon Anthony is a lifestyle design coach, who teaches men how to improve their dating skills, get in better shape, and make more money. He enjoys talking about workout supplements like SARMs, cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin and Ethereum, and dating techniques that men can use to improve their love lives.'

It's Bros like that that convince the rest of you there's a problem.

Ok, but I picked his blog from looking for about thirty seconds, there are many of them....just put in 'attacks on masculinity'.

Ignore his and read Sommers if his biases annoy you....though really you're poisoning the well here. You should read the blog and treat the arguments objectivity if you're really 'all ears'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2021 3.47pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays Flag 17 Aug 21 3.50pm

Originally posted by DanH

As a man (and an apparent 'alpha' one at that) you seem to know a lot about how women think and what they like.

Women can wear that they want without fear of being touched up or worse by men. Any 'crossed wires' (nice euphemism for sexual assault or rape) are all the male's fault unless consent has been given.

You can only see the world from one perspective it seems.

I can agree with some of these sentiments but you are just being unrealistic and anti nature.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays Flag 17 Aug 21 3.51pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

What do you think 'happiness' looked like for women in the 50s compared to now?

Do you think the same things which made women record high happiness levels in 1950s would make today's women happy?

Logically, if the sum of your ambition is to knock out a few kids and to hope your husband doesn't drink too much, you're likely to be much more easily pleased - that doesn't make it something to aspire to.

It's an interesting response.

I really must eat lunch but I'll respond later.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 17 Aug 21 3.53pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's an interesting response.

I really must eat lunch but I'll respond later.

Surely it's a dinner by now

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Aug 21 4.01pm

Originally posted by DanH

Haha this a pathetic response. You don’t talk to a lot of women do you?

Go and ask women how they feel about someone wolf whistling them and see what kind of response you get.

When has anyone ever demonised someone for opening a door for someone?

And it depends what the compliment is doesn’t it? There’s a difference between ‘nice dress’ and ‘nice dress, it makes your tits looks great’ isn’t there?

A lot of women feel uncomfortable getting compliments from men, especially from strangers, as it can come across as a sexual advance and just creepy.

For a pathetic post you sure used some thought to give your patronising response.
Still never mind eh!

 

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