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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Sep 22 9.01am

Originally posted by Ecopalace

I hope that all our efforts are not being directed at Gallagher, if so we might just be wasting our time. Shame if we don’t further strengthen our squad.

That is my concern as well "eggs in on basket". We are relying on Chelsea who have their own agenda they might have made noises that he is available but what happens if they change their mind.

 


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steveeagle67 Flag london 01 Sep 22 9.02am

Well here goes another transfer deadline day where we’re all excited by rumours and then we sign someone from the Non league
Come on palace please prove me wrong!!

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Sep 22 9.10am

Originally posted by steveeagle67

Well here goes another transfer deadline day where we’re all excited by rumours and then we sign someone from the Non league
Come on palace please prove me wrong!!

There have been a plethora of players who progressed from Non-League into the professional ranks and served, and are still serving clubs with distinction.

Jamie Vardy, Ian Wright, Nigel Martyn, Stan Colleymore, Alan Pardew,Glenn Murray, Michail Antonio etc etc.

Edited by Willo (01 Sep 2022 9.15am)

 

NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 01 Sep 22 9.12am

Originally posted by sotac464

I get that, but Vieira is a winner, he wants to challenge Willo, at this moment in time we are not at that level, as I've said an injury to Zaha, we are in trouble, where do the goals come from?

3 transfer windows we've spent £100 million, 1 transfer window Forrest £141 million including free transfers. We have people in control of our club who were willing to buy Chelsea for Billions, if they wanted to invest in us they would.

Risk / Reward.

If they invested '' billions '' into Chelsea their potential returns would dwarf what they could get from their Palace investment.

One of Vieira's assets is that he buys into the ethos of our club. We are not, nor likely to be, big spenders. He understands that player development at Palace is crucial and underpins our strategy.

Yes, Forest have spent a fortune. I wonder how the players that got them into the Prem feel now ? Their result last night suggests they have some hard work to integrate those new players and get them to gel.

 


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Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 01 Sep 22 9.16am

Originally posted by Willo

There have been a plethora of players who progressed from Non-League into the professional ranks and served, and still serving clubs with distinction.

Jamie Vardy, Ian Wright, Nigel Martyn, Stan Colleymore, Alan Pardew,Glenn Murray, Mikhail Antonio etc etc.

Edited by Willo (01 Sep 2022 9.14am)

That quality in active non-league is very rare to find nowadays. Any talent of any worth is sucked out pretty quickly. Such is our wonderful egalitarian 'pyramid' these days.

 

MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 01 Sep 22 9.17am

Just got to hope Palace have back ups

 

Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 01 Sep 22 9.29am

Originally posted by NEILLO

Risk / Reward.

If they invested '' billions '' into Chelsea their potential returns would dwarf what they could get from their Palace investment.

One of Vieira's assets is that he buys into the ethos of our club. We are not, nor likely to be, big spenders. He understands that player development at Palace is crucial and underpins our strategy.

Yes, Forest have spent a fortune. I wonder how the players that got them into the Prem feel now ? Their result last night suggests they have some hard work to integrate those new players and get them to gel.

Absolutely agree.

The purse strings did slightly loosen for PV initially, however that was also necessary given the team's demographic, and I think he understands the need to build the team for the future as opposed for immediate survival at the top level.

All that said, does make me worry it will go too far the other way sometimes and we end up with an U21's side struggling to compete.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Sep 22 9.35am

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Absolutely agree.

The purse strings did slightly loosen for PV initially, however that was also necessary given the team's demographic, and I think he understands the need to build the team for the future as opposed for immediate survival at the top level.

All that said, does make me worry it will go too far the other way sometimes and we end up with an U21's side struggling to compete.

I too have expressed this concern.All very well purchasing players with 'Potential' but we also need "Ready made" players to compete in the PL.The financial outlay on such players however can be significant.

Edited by Willo (01 Sep 2022 9.37am)

 

Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 01 Sep 22 9.45am

Originally posted by Willo

I too have expressed this concern.All very well purchasing players with 'Potential' but we also need "Ready made" players to compete in the PL.The financial outlay on such players however can be significant.

Edited by Willo (01 Sep 2022 9.37am)

Agree Willo.

I think we are seeing the drawback of this mostly through the likes of our conceding of set-piece goals and the recently witnessed letting slip of leads.

The only other concern for me is that every teenagers is not Wayne Rooney at 16. There is some sort of delusional belief in football that players get better and better every year and therefore anyone with a bit of something young will definitely be a superstar one day. I would love Plange to be PL TGS in 5 years time, Scott Banks hailed as the new Messi and JRS/TA tearing up the PL however that just isn't even remotely likely.

'A balance needs to be struck' - Nicholas91, this morning.

Edited by Nicholas91 (01 Sep 2022 9.45am)

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

steveeagle67 Flag london 01 Sep 22 9.46am

Willo, I know there has been rare finds in non league but we need players in the 1st team squad now and not in the u23 or signing then going out on loan
Just want somebody to sign and get excited that their gonna make our team better and more dangerous

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Sep 22 9.50am

Originally posted by steveeagle67

Willo, I know there has been rare finds in non league but we need players in the 1st team squad now and not in the u23 or signing then going out on loan
Just want somebody to sign and get excited that their gonna make our team better and more dangerous

I totally agree and I have expressed this view vociferously outside of HOL whilst appreciating that the cost of purchasing 'Ready made' players can be prohibitive.

 

Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 01 Sep 22 9.51am

Originally posted by steveeagle67

Willo, I know there has been rare finds in non league but we need players in the 1st team squad now and not in the u23 or signing then going out on loan
Just want somebody to sign and get excited that their gonna make our team better and more dangerous

We've got the exciting players, but at the risk of 'broken record' syndrome need to beef up the centre of the park to boss games and allow the flair to do its work.

 

PatrickA Flag London 01 Sep 22 10.01am

Of the outfield players we’ve brought in only Doucoure is first team ready.
We’ve lost McArthur, Gallagher and Kouyate that was our most effective midfield combination last season.
McArthur is still here but I doubt he will feature that much.
I can see why some are of the opinion that at the moment we are weaker than last season in midfield.
Our midfield doesn’t look balanced despite the good start from Doucoure and flashes of excellence from Eze.
Luka and Hughes don’t appear to have the energy and presence to be other than bit part players and Schlupp seems to me to be a useful squad player rather than guaranteed midfield starter.
It will be really disappointing if we don’t bring in at least one midfield addition for first team contention even if it’s a loan.
We have a promising team with good young players but don’t seem to be paying due attention to the engine room which will allow the team to function at it’s best.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Sep 22 10.05am

Originally posted by PatrickA

Of the outfield players we’ve brought in only Doucoure is first team ready.
We’ve lost McArthur, Gallagher and Kouyate that was our most effective midfield combination last season.
McArthur is still here but I doubt he will feature that much.
I can see why some are of the opinion that at the moment we are weaker than last season in midfield.
Our midfield doesn’t look balanced despite the good start from Doucoure and flashes of excellence from Eze.
Luka and Hughes don’t appear to have the energy and presence to be other than bit part players and Schlupp seems to me to be a useful squad player rather than guaranteed midfield starter.
It will be really disappointing if we don’t bring in at least one midfield addition for first team contention even if it’s a loan.
We have a promising team with good young players but don’t seem to be paying due attention to the engine room which will allow the team to function at it’s best.

I 'Warm' to your comments apropos the midfield 'Engine room'.
Perhaps Curtis Jones would be a useful addition on 'Loan' from Liverpool but I am reliably informed Liverpool have injury problems in their midfield so are unlikely to allow Jones to depart.

Edited by Willo (01 Sep 2022 11.11am)

 

Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 01 Sep 22 10.07am

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

We've got the exciting players, but at the risk of 'broken record' syndrome need to beef up the centre of the park to boss games and allow the flair to do its work.

Absolutely this ^^

You need both the stable foundation and to build upon it.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Hudsoneagle Flag 01 Sep 22 10.39am

Talking about centre midfield. I wonder if we had hoped to move some on this year. Hughes, for some reason, now seems to be behind Luka in terms of who’s being given the most minutes off the bench. I like Hughes, he’s neat on the ball and does try to get stuck in…but have the club decided to trim the bench midfielders in the hope of providing funds for a 1st team midfielder???

If you look at those who can potentially play CM

Doucoure and Eze would be considered 1st team choices.

Schlupp, McArthur, Hughes, Luka and Reidewald would all be considered back ups.

That’s not a great balance of quality. Last season Gallagher and Kouyate would have been added to the 1st team choice group.

We need to trim down the bench players and add to the 1st team group.

 

Painter Flag Croydon 01 Sep 22 10.41am

Originally posted by steveeagle67

Willo, I know there has been rare finds in non league but we need players in the 1st team squad now and not in the u23 or signing then going out on loan
Just want somebody to sign and get excited that their gonna make our team better and more dangerous

I feel you will be disappointed or supporting the wrong club. The policy going forward has been made patently obvious, we aren’t going to be buying old ready made players on the end of their career around 30 years old.

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 01 Sep 22 10.54am

Originally posted by Painter

I feel you will be disappointed or supporting the wrong club. The policy going forward has been made patently obvious, we aren’t going to be buying old ready made players on the end of their career around 30 years old.

He didn't say anything about buying "old" players "at the end of their career around 30 years old"

Eze, Olise, Guehi, Andersen and Doucoure are neither old nor at the end of their careers

 

sotac464 Flag Berkshire 01 Sep 22 10.56am

I've just been told Gallagher is staying at Chelsea.

 


My equalibrium unbalanced me. Paul Draper Brighton 19/2/2018

Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 01 Sep 22 11.00am

Wow, didn't see that coming.

 

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