Sheff.U have actually been playing very well most of their games have been close losses and they are only suffering now from confidence and probably good old shock with being in this mess, they have as much chance of beating us we do them.

Edited by Tickled pink (01 Jan 2021 8.51pm)

His words are no more a waste of time them than you trying to pretend you know what the owners criteria is for sacking a manager.

You have to just look at our position now in the table don't you and where we'd be if we win the next game. I'd imagine you and many many others will actually be unhappy if we do win sadly.

I'd imagine the criteria is not sacking a man who if his team wins the next game will find themselves sitting very comfortably mid table.

“Your words are a waste of time”. Is that how you normally talk to people. WTF is wrong with you?

[quote=Tim Gypsy Hill '64;3588898]

I'm not picking on you specifically, but I doubt the criteria for sacking the manager is anything other than relegation. However, it is interesting that you use the phrase "pretend you know". This thread is littered with pretence of knowledge regarding Roy Hodgson. "He has his favorites", "He doesn't like to try youth players", "He only has one plan", there are a lot more examples of this, all unfounded but taken as true by the "Roy out" brigade. There is one poster who detests him so much, and with such venom, that I'm convinced that Roy must have shagged his mum. Or his wife.....or both!!!!! The bulls*** stats continually posted, selectively, would have us swapping places with Sheff U if they were realistic, not playing them tomorrow.

Sadly, you're probably right. There seems to be a lot of selective hearing and quoting of stats and statements to support (what seems to me at least) are jaundiced views of our manager - and not just from the 'Roy Out' brigade.

Currently, there is no pressing reason to sack Hodgson. He has done and will probably continue to do what is required of him which is to ensure PL survival. I'm not saying that this should be the extent of our ambition, but given what we've been through over the last 40 years, to be looking at hopefully moving into a 9th consecutive season in the PL will be some achievement.

Although Hodgson has said that he has the strongest squad he's had so far in his tenure, this is not the same as saying we have a great squad or even a strong squad especially when we compare ourselves to the other clubs in this league. Our age profile is such that we can only become weaker unless we offload some of our older players and replace them with younger ones with the capacity to improve.

The key period for us will be from the West Ham Game until the end of Feb during which period we have 7 winnable games. Our points tally before the Spurs away game at the beginning of March may well decide whether or not we will be facing a relegation battle as we have an even worse run-in than last season.

[quote=Tim Gypsy Hill '64;3588898]

I'm not picking on you specifically, but I doubt the criteria for sacking the manager is anything other than relegation.

In the past it has been the strong possibility of relegation and not the actual deed with us

I f we lose today, we will move into a very dodgy place but I very much doubt it will affect Roy or any older crocked players having their contracts renewed. Top of the list being Sakho and wickham and of corse Roy.

I am not in the know but I would have thought that if we were going to replace Roy mid season we would have done so around the same time as WBA appointed Sam (Give or take a week) so as to give the new guy a couple weeks to see the team / work with them & then make the best use of the Jan transfer window (with some form of war chest- however limited) given that we didn't do that I would suggest that he will be in situ for at least the rest of the season unless we find ourselves in serious trouble among the bottom 3 & not looking as though we can play our way out - the only caveat(s) I would add to that is of course if a seriously stand out candidate that we cannot overlook suddenly becomes available or Roy himself decides he has had enough.

Being comfortable or in a dodgy place is decided by more then one game, so far this season we have accumulated nineteen points playing this way or that and our manager will obviously look at every game due to our position ..he tried the Eze experiment I feel when we had the required position to do so, it had to change and has done so so I tend to believe and hope today will be the same and also hope to see Eze come on if the result suits, more hopefully of course I'd rather see Eze play from the beginning but I fear our passing will let everyone down, who knows.