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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jan 21 12.07pm
Originally posted by stanzerman Why would anyone want Roy out when he's won every single match this year? And not even conceded a goal.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jan 21 12.07pm

Originally posted by stanzerman

Why would anyone want Roy out when he's won every single match this year?

And not even conceded a goal.

martin2412 Living The Dream 04 Jan 21 12.16pm
Originally posted by Willo And not even conceded a goal. And against a top 20 side at that.

martin2412

Living The Dream 04 Jan 21 12.16pm

Originally posted by Willo

And not even conceded a goal.

And against a top 20 side at that.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jan 21 12.22pm
Originally posted by martin2412 And against a top 20 side at that. Roy really is "Top of the Pops".

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jan 21 12.22pm

Originally posted by martin2412

And against a top 20 side at that.

Roy really is "Top of the Pops".

Eaglecoops CR3 04 Jan 21 12.35pm
Originally posted by Willo Roy really is "Top of the Pops". As the oldest in the league, I’d concur with that description.

Eaglecoops

CR3 04 Jan 21 12.35pm

Originally posted by Willo

Roy really is "Top of the Pops".

As the oldest in the league, I’d concur with that description.

grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 04 Jan 21 1.04pm
We need to do a rebuild and come on Roy is not the man to do so he doesn't even have any involvement in the likes of transfers. He sticks with same people over and over again who are mostly the older players then wonders why we get so many injuries. He has no interest in youth only using them when no other options are available. Here is a simple example of him why is Kouyate still playing as center back when we have many natural players available that can play their. The guy is past it he had a good solid group of players to work with which is why we are in position we are in and even then he is not even using them to the best they can be. (VPN) - [Link] (Alt VPN) - [Link]

grumpymort

US/Thailand/UK 04 Jan 21 1.04pm

We need to do a rebuild and come on Roy is not the man to do so he doesn't even have any involvement in the likes of transfers.

He sticks with same people over and over again who are mostly the older players then wonders why we get so many injuries.

He has no interest in youth only using them when no other options are available.

Here is a simple example of him why is Kouyate still playing as center back when we have many natural players available that can play their.

The guy is past it he had a good solid group of players to work with which is why we are in position we are in and even then he is not even using them to the best they can be.

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Tickled pink Cornwall 04 Jan 21 1.17pm
Originally posted by grumpymort We need to do a rebuild and come on Roy is not the man to do so he doesn't even have any involvement in the likes of transfers. He sticks with same people over and over again who are mostly the older players then wonders why we get so many injuries. He has no interest in youth only using them when no other options are available. Here is a simple example of him why is Kouyate still playing as center back when we have many natural players available that can play their. The guy is past it he had a good solid group of players to work with which is why we are in position we are in and even then he is not even using them to the best they can be. What are you fishing for I wonder?

Tickled pink

Cornwall 04 Jan 21 1.17pm

Originally posted by grumpymort

We need to do a rebuild and come on Roy is not the man to do so he doesn't even have any involvement in the likes of transfers.

He sticks with same people over and over again who are mostly the older players then wonders why we get so many injuries.

He has no interest in youth only using them when no other options are available.

Here is a simple example of him why is Kouyate still playing as center back when we have many natural players available that can play their.

The guy is past it he had a good solid group of players to work with which is why we are in position we are in and even then he is not even using them to the best they can be.

What are you fishing for I wonder?

Tickled pink Cornwall 04 Jan 21 1.35pm
Originally posted by Frickin Saweet He would most certainly dust off and pack his old bamboo rod and feather float as they have served him well and were good enough to catch roach and rudd 20-years ago, rather than any of the fancy carbon fibre rods, lightweight reels and bite alarms that are all the rage in the quest to land monster carp these days. Last year In a place where I work there is a huge lake and I noticed four fishing rods that had been abandoned ..no one had been near them all day, when I made enquires I was informed that the owner of them was sunning himself on a beach two miles away, his rods were wired up to his phone!

Tickled pink

Cornwall 04 Jan 21 1.35pm

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

He would most certainly dust off and pack his old bamboo rod and feather float as they have served him well and were good enough to catch roach and rudd 20-years ago, rather than any of the fancy carbon fibre rods, lightweight reels and bite alarms that are all the rage in the quest to land monster carp these days.

Last year In a place where I work there is a huge lake and I noticed four fishing rods that had been abandoned ..no one had been near them all day, when I made enquires I was informed that the owner of them was sunning himself on a beach two miles away, his rods were wired up to his phone!

YoDougie London 04 Jan 21 2.12pm
I think it would be a surprise to see Roy leave prior to the end of the season and have resigned myself to that idea now. With 22 Pts from 17 games, we are well on our way to safety, however this has to be the final season with Roy. I feel like it makes sense that after 3 seasons (or so), he will leave at the end of his contract and Crystal Palace will say thank you and he will retire - a very positive PR story. I think we all can see he is not the man to take us forward and it's clear as fans, there is a large majority unhappy with the style of play and lack of ambition within the club. We just need to put up with this for the 2nd half of the season. I sincerely hope the club will be using the next 5 months wisely before the season ends to seek an exciting replacement manager and identify a few young prospects to join our ageing squad. I'm optimistic that 2021 will see change at the club - although this is just my thoughts! I have no inside knowledge.

YoDougie

London 04 Jan 21 2.12pm

I think it would be a surprise to see Roy leave prior to the end of the season and have resigned myself to that idea now.

With 22 Pts from 17 games, we are well on our way to safety, however this has to be the final season with Roy. I feel like it makes sense that after 3 seasons (or so), he will leave at the end of his contract and Crystal Palace will say thank you and he will retire - a very positive PR story.

I think we all can see he is not the man to take us forward and it's clear as fans, there is a large majority unhappy with the style of play and lack of ambition within the club. We just need to put up with this for the 2nd half of the season.

I sincerely hope the club will be using the next 5 months wisely before the season ends to seek an exciting replacement manager and identify a few young prospects to join our ageing squad.

I'm optimistic that 2021 will see change at the club - although this is just my thoughts! I have no inside knowledge.

southnorwoodhill 04 Jan 21 2.23pm
Originally posted by YoDougie I think it would be a surprise to see Roy leave prior to the end of the season and have resigned myself to that idea now. With 22 Pts from 17 games, we are well on our way to safety, however this has to be the final season with Roy. I feel like it makes sense that after 3 seasons (or so), he will leave at the end of his contract and Crystal Palace will say thank you and he will retire - a very positive PR story. I think we all can see he is not the man to take us forward and it's clear as fans, there is a large majority unhappy with the style of play and lack of ambition within the club. We just need to put up with this for the 2nd half of the season. I sincerely hope the club will be using the next 5 months wisely before the season ends to seek an exciting replacement manager and identify a few young prospects to join our ageing squad. I'm optimistic that 2021 will see change at the club - although this is just my thoughts! I have no inside knowledge. This is what I expected to happen last season, given Hodgson's contract due to expire and the appalling final run of games. Perhaps Parish needed another season to sort things out back stage, and considered Hodgson a safe pair of hands. Who knows? If Hodgson is still here next season and the out of contract players have had their contracts extended, I'll question the ambition of the club.

southnorwoodhill

04 Jan 21 2.23pm

Originally posted by YoDougie

I think it would be a surprise to see Roy leave prior to the end of the season and have resigned myself to that idea now.

I sincerely hope the club will be using the next 5 months wisely before the season ends to seek an exciting replacement manager and identify a few young prospects to join our ageing squad.

I'm optimistic that 2021 will see change at the club - although this is just my thoughts! I have no inside knowledge.

This is what I expected to happen last season, given Hodgson's contract due to expire and the appalling final run of games. Perhaps Parish needed another season to sort things out back stage, and considered Hodgson a safe pair of hands. Who knows? If Hodgson is still here next season and the out of contract players have had their contracts extended, I'll question the ambition of the club.

EddieMac 04 Jan 21 2.24pm
Originally posted by Tickled pink Last year In a place where I work there is a huge lake and I noticed four fishing rods that had been abandoned ..no one had been near them all day, when I made enquires I was informed that the owner of them was sunning himself on a beach two miles away, his rods were wired up to his phone! You took that bait hook,line and sinker Tickled

EddieMac

04 Jan 21 2.24pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

You took that bait hook,line and sinker Tickled

NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 04 Jan 21 2.35pm
Originally posted by YoDougie I think it would be a surprise to see Roy leave prior to the end of the season and have resigned myself to that idea now. With 22 Pts from 17 games, we are well on our way to safety, however this has to be the final season with Roy. I feel like it makes sense that after 3 seasons (or so), he will leave at the end of his contract and Crystal Palace will say thank you and he will retire - a very positive PR story. I think we all can see he is not the man to take us forward and it's clear as fans, there is a large majority unhappy with the style of play and lack of ambition within the club. We just need to put up with this for the 2nd half of the season. I sincerely hope the club will be using the next 5 months wisely before the season ends to seek an exciting replacement manager and identify a few young prospects to join our ageing squad. I'm optimistic that 2021 will see change at the club - although this is just my thoughts! I have no inside knowledge. Or possibly longer ! I am Pro Roy for the simple reason that I understand that the club's current level of ambition on the playing side is to stay in the Premier League. And he delivers that. Yes, a change will have to be made at some point. And if you are looking at a 2-3 year plan for the required overhaul of the squad, then it would make sense to entrust that to somebody that's more reasonably likely to see it through. That will require Parish changing beyond the short termism that exists at the moment. It's down to him. Old, Ungifted and White

NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 04 Jan 21 2.35pm

Originally posted by YoDougie

I think it would be a surprise to see Roy leave prior to the end of the season and have resigned myself to that idea now.

I think we all can see he is not the man to take us forward and it's clear as fans, there is a large majority unhappy with the style of play and lack of ambition within the club. We just need to put up with this for the 2nd half of the season.

I sincerely hope the club will be using the next 5 months wisely before the season ends to seek an exciting replacement manager and identify a few young prospects to join our ageing squad.

I'm optimistic that 2021 will see change at the club - although this is just my thoughts! I have no inside knowledge.

Or possibly longer !

I am Pro Roy for the simple reason that I understand that the club's current level of ambition on the playing side is to stay in the Premier League. And he delivers that.

Yes, a change will have to be made at some point. And if you are looking at a 2-3 year plan for the required overhaul of the squad, then it would make sense to entrust that to somebody that's more reasonably likely to see it through.

That will require Parish changing beyond the short termism that exists at the moment. It's down to him.

Old, Ungifted and White

buzby1 Devon 04 Jan 21 3.33pm
Originally posted by eritheagle I used to go with someone that always took the view that if we lost it was cos we were cr@p and if we won it was cos the opposition were worse than cr@p! A very healthy attitude and neatly much sums up all my decades supporting Palace. Usually a pretty bleak outlook with occasional brief glimpses of sunshine. If we reckon it's grim now then just remember some of those much loved managers from the past: Alan Mullery, Alan Smith, Alan Pardew, Trevor Francis, Peter Taylor, Paul Hart, George 'I'll have another if you're buying' Burley and Frank 'here one moment gone the next' de Boer. Having said all that I still Roy should call it a day rather than waiting for the telegram from the Queen.

buzby1

Devon 04 Jan 21 3.33pm

Originally posted by eritheagle

I used to go with someone that always took the view that if we lost it was cos we were cr@p and if we won it was cos the opposition were worse than cr@p!

A very healthy attitude and neatly much sums up all my decades supporting Palace. Usually a pretty bleak outlook with occasional brief glimpses of sunshine. If we reckon it's grim now then just remember some of those much loved managers from the past: Alan Mullery, Alan Smith, Alan Pardew, Trevor Francis, Peter Taylor, Paul Hart, George 'I'll have another if you're buying' Burley and Frank 'here one moment gone the next' de Boer.

Having said all that I still Roy should call it a day rather than waiting for the telegram from the Queen.

EagleinSF San Fransisco 04 Jan 21 3.50pm
I think Roy will stay at the helm as long as the Yanks are owners. In my opinion they are the ones that are holding tight to the purse strings and until they move on we're stuck in a holding pattern and Roy is seen as a safe pair of hands - especially with the lack of investment.

EagleinSF

San Fransisco 04 Jan 21 3.50pm

I think Roy will stay at the helm as long as the Yanks are owners. In my opinion they are the ones that are holding tight to the purse strings and until they move on we're stuck in a holding pattern and Roy is seen as a safe pair of hands - especially with the lack of investment.

est1905 04 Jan 21 5.50pm
It is true that Roy is very good at working with what he has and has never made unreasonable demands for transfer funds no matter where he has managed. This will undoubtedly be an attractive quality during Covid, the yanks time here, and lets face it Parish is not a big lover of splurging on expensive players either. The problem is Roy's age. No disrespect to him whatsoever but they will only want him to continue all the time his mind seems sharp and his desire still burns. Realistically, its generally unusual for a man in his early 70s to retain the same passion he had in his 40s or 50s.

est1905

04 Jan 21 5.50pm

It is true that Roy is very good at working with what he has and has never made unreasonable demands for transfer funds no matter where he has managed.
This will undoubtedly be an attractive quality during Covid, the yanks time here, and lets face it Parish is not a big lover of splurging on expensive players either.
The problem is Roy's age. No disrespect to him whatsoever but they will only want him to continue all the time his mind seems sharp and his desire still burns. Realistically, its generally unusual for a man in his early 70s to retain the same passion he had in his 40s or 50s.

Painter Croydon 04 Jan 21 7.40pm
Originally posted by taylors lovechild I'm confused by people saying we got lucky against Sheffield Utd? We won because we worked hard and took our chances. Sheffield Utd created one proper chance which they hit straight at Ward. How is that lucky? There are games where I would have agreed with the sentiment, like possibly Spurs, or maybe even Leicester, but not Saturday. We didn't play the most eye-catching football but from the fourth minute to the last minute the result never seemed in doubt and the team worked incredibly hard for it. Having said all that, I do think our squad is one of the weakest out of all the established PL sides once you take out Wilf and Eze and that has shown when we have played these teams. Aside from the surprising early-doors wins against Southampton and Man Utd (both of which looked half asleep to be fair) all of our wins have come against teams promoted last year or this year. This has always been Roy's strength, ensuring we get results against teams in the bottom half and it should be enough to see us safe if that pattern continues. However, I still maintain that whomever is in charge next season we will not climb above 12th without investment in the squad. The only other established PL club which continues to spend at a similar level is Burnley and they have just been taken over by someone promising to invest. Roy's investment to points ratio is probably only matched by Burnley, so that should be a worrying sign. You appear to be one of those strange supporters, who doesnt like us winning. Its either the opposition didnt play well, we were lucky or they were crap. I dont think you can possibly be lucky for 8 seasons in the Premier.

Painter

Croydon 04 Jan 21 7.40pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

I'm confused by people saying we got lucky against Sheffield Utd? We won because we worked hard and took our chances. Sheffield Utd created one proper chance which they hit straight at Ward. How is that lucky? There are games where I would have agreed with the sentiment, like possibly Spurs, or maybe even Leicester, but not Saturday. We didn't play the most eye-catching football but from the fourth minute to the last minute the result never seemed in doubt and the team worked incredibly hard for it.

Having said all that, I do think our squad is one of the weakest out of all the established PL sides once you take out Wilf and Eze and that has shown when we have played these teams. Aside from the surprising early-doors wins against Southampton and Man Utd (both of which looked half asleep to be fair) all of our wins have come against teams promoted last year or this year. This has always been Roy's strength, ensuring we get results against teams in the bottom half and it should be enough to see us safe if that pattern continues. However, I still maintain that whomever is in charge next season we will not climb above 12th without investment in the squad. The only other established PL club which continues to spend at a similar level is Burnley and they have just been taken over by someone promising to invest. Roy's investment to points ratio is probably only matched by Burnley, so that should be a worrying sign.

You appear to be one of those strange supporters, who doesnt like us winning. Its either the opposition didnt play well, we were lucky or they were crap.
I dont think you can possibly be lucky for 8 seasons in the Premier.

Tickled pink Cornwall 05 Jan 21 8.19am
Originally posted by Painter You appear to be one of those strange supporters, who doesnt like us winning. Its either the opposition didnt play well, we were lucky or they were crap. I dont think you can possibly be lucky for 8 seasons in the Premier. I've no idea where you got that impression from, taylors lovechild is as level headed about our situation as anyone possibly could be.

Tickled pink

Cornwall 05 Jan 21 8.19am

Originally posted by Painter

I've no idea where you got that impression from, taylors lovechild is as level headed about our situation as anyone possibly could be.

Gary St.Andrews Kenley 05 Jan 21 8.27am
Roy will see the season out and then I hope Dyche comes in. Roy has done a great job if unspectacular and the football has been painful to watch and this has been well documented over the last two seasons. I can’t see any other candidates other than Dyche that I would want to step into the hot seat if I am honest.

Gary St.Andrews

Kenley 05 Jan 21 8.27am

Roy will see the season out and then I hope Dyche comes in. Roy has done a great job if unspectacular and the football has been painful to watch and this has been well documented over the last two seasons.

I can’t see any other candidates other than Dyche that I would want to step into the hot seat if I am honest.

taylors lovechild 05 Jan 21 9.34am
Originally posted by Painter You appear to be one of those strange supporters, who doesnt like us winning. Its either the opposition didnt play well, we were lucky or they were crap. I dont think you can possibly be lucky for 8 seasons in the Premier. Did you mean to respond to me as my post says the exact opposite? I think possibly you did as my response wasn't exactly subtle: I'm confused by people saying we got lucky against Sheffield Utd? We won because we worked hard and took our chances. Sheffield Utd created one proper chance which they hit straight at Ward. How is that lucky?

taylors lovechild

05 Jan 21 9.34am

Originally posted by Painter

Did you mean to respond to me as my post says the exact opposite? I think possibly you did as my response wasn't exactly subtle:

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jan 21 10.11am
Originally posted by taylors lovechild Did you mean to respond to me as my post says the exact opposite? I think possibly you did as my response wasn't exactly subtle: I'm confused by people saying we got lucky against Sheffield Utd? We won because we worked hard and took our chances. Sheffield Utd created one proper chance which they hit straight at Ward. How is that lucky? In my humble opinion,overall we fully deserved our win. Perhaps,by being "Lucky" might have been a reference to the opening goal whereby Benteke's lay-off deflected off a Sheff Utd player into the path of Schlupp and his shot took a slight deflection off a sprawling defender perhaps contributing to the ball flying past Ramsdale.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jan 21 10.11am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Did you mean to respond to me as my post says the exact opposite? I think possibly you did as my response wasn't exactly subtle:

In my humble opinion,overall we fully deserved our win.

Perhaps,by being "Lucky" might have been a reference to the opening goal whereby Benteke's lay-off deflected off a Sheff Utd player into the path of Schlupp and his shot took a slight deflection off a sprawling defender perhaps contributing to the ball flying past Ramsdale.

jeeagles 05 Jan 21 11.15am
Originally posted by taylors lovechild Did you mean to respond to me as my post says the exact opposite? I think possibly you did as my response wasn't exactly subtle: I'm confused by people saying we got lucky against Sheffield Utd? We won because we worked hard and took our chances. Sheffield Utd created one proper chance which they hit straight at Ward. How is that lucky? To clarify my earlier point. There's no argument that backs up the claim we were lucky. We scored very easily and that was the job done. When teams play like Sheffield United did, sometimes the goal comes in the 1st minutes, sometimes in the 80th like the Blades v Everton game. Either way, they can keep a clean sheet and can't score, so its just a matter of going through the processes. Most of Roy's supporters and detractors have stayed pretty quite over the result, because beating a team that haven't won all season doesn't really prove anything.

jeeagles

05 Jan 21 11.15am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Did you mean to respond to me as my post says the exact opposite? I think possibly you did as my response wasn't exactly subtle:

To clarify my earlier point.

There's no argument that backs up the claim we were lucky. We scored very easily and that was the job done.

When teams play like Sheffield United did, sometimes the goal comes in the 1st minutes, sometimes in the 80th like the Blades v Everton game. Either way, they can keep a clean sheet and can't score, so its just a matter of going through the processes.

Most of Roy's supporters and detractors have stayed pretty quite over the result, because beating a team that haven't won all season doesn't really prove anything.

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