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 Part Time James  20 Apr 17 4.42pm |
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Originally posted by Superfly
These days, If you say you're English you get arrested and thrown in jail That's why Zaha is playing for the Ivory Coast.
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 becky over the moon 20 Apr 17 4.48pm |
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Originally posted by Superfly
These days, If you say you're English you get arrested and thrown in jail As a matter of course when I fill in any official form that asks me to identify my ethnic origin I ignore all the 'British' options and enter 'English' under 'other'
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| Part Time James 20 Apr 17 4.51pm |
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Originally posted by becky
As a matter of course when I fill in any official form that asks me to identify my ethnic origin I ignore all the 'British' options and enter 'English' under 'other' Haha, I thought I was the only person that did this! My passport renewal got accepted when I did that recently. I don't know why I risked it, but they just accepted it.
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| legaleagle 20 Apr 17 4.53pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
And as a defender of the moral high ground, I suppose you would be really happy if a load of Travelers parked their caravans on your front lawn? There you go again.Miss (deliberately?)the point and have a gratuitous pop at Travellers (who,by the way,are not Roma).Colonel Blimp's grandchild ? I wouldn't want anyone uninvited (particularly someone like you or Willo) moving into my front garden. But,funnily enough,I shared a flat while at uni with a bloke who was Roma. Decent guy and a good songwriter/guitarist.In fact,almost certainly better neighbour material than the likes of you or Willo Edited by legaleagle (20 Apr 2017 4.56pm)
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Apr 17 5.05pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Or in the field adjacent to the house.But in this PC age one cannot say that you wouldn't want 'Travellers' living next door to you. Edited by Willo (20 Apr 2017 3.58pm) Who would want people living illegally next door to them. No one. Whether they're travellers or not. See that's 'being reasonable'. Now if you happen to live next to a Legal Traveller site....
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Apr 17 5.08pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
And as a defender of the moral high ground, I suppose you would be really happy if a load of Travelers parked their caravans on your front lawn? Is my front lawn a legal traveller encampment site... The problem seems here to be the notion of disliking people for no rational reason other than being a racist / xenophobe or bigot. And objecting to something on fairly reasonable grounds.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Apr 17 5.10pm |
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Originally posted by Superfly
These days, If you say you're English you get arrested and thrown in jail I just said it.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Apr 17 5.11pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Roma is the term generally used within continental Europe Well, by people who are Roma.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Apr 17 5.13pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Are all Eskimos "Inuit" or was it the other way round? Eskimo relates to a specific tribe, where as Inuit I think relates to the collective tribal groups.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 20 Apr 17 5.18pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Is my front lawn a legal traveller encampment site... The problem seems here to be the notion of disliking people for no rational reason other than being a racist / xenophobe or bigot. And objecting to something on fairly reasonable grounds. What about personal experience? Is that not allowed?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 20 Apr 17 5.21pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
There you go again.Miss (deliberately?)the point and have a gratuitous pop at Travellers (who,by the way,are not Roma).Colonel Blimp's grandchild ? I wouldn't want anyone uninvited (particularly someone like you or Willo) moving into my front garden. But,funnily enough,I shared a flat while at uni with a bloke who was Roma. Decent guy and a good songwriter/guitarist.In fact,almost certainly better neighbour material than the likes of you or Willo Edited by legaleagle (20 Apr 2017 4.56pm) What about if the KLu Klux Klan moved in next door or the BNP set up their head office across the road?
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 20 Apr 17 5.45pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
They're not travellers if they live there "Police? These bloody travellers outside my house haven't done any actually travelling for a few weeks now!" Edited by Brentmiester_General (20 Apr 2017 5.48pm)
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 20 Apr 17 5.47pm |
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Originally posted by Superfly
These days, If you say you're English you get arrested and thrown in jail Rightly bloody so! Have you seen some of the atrocities we've caused around the world throughout history? We should all be locked up at birth for being white English people and never let out ever again. Terrible people that we are.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Apr 17 5.49pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What about personal experience? Is that not allowed? I'd imagine so. My granddad always hated Germans, because of the war. It was understandable, irrational and stupid, and even he admitted that (and the only person who really suffered or missed out was him). But its understandable. A lot of his friends died in the war, and he experienced some truly horrific things (mostly ironically as an ARP). It think its generally something people understand, but its still really stupid to essentially be prejudiced against a whole nation, even those who weren't even born during the war.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Apr 17 5.54pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What about if the KLu Klux Klan moved in next door or the BNP set up their head office across the road? The Klan, I'd definitely have an issue with, they're a terrorist group of religiously inspired extremists - with a disturbing history of violence and links to terrorist groups in the US and beyond. The BNP, I'd be a bit concerned, mostly for them as I do live in a largely multicultural area, with a very large student population. Still, as long as they're not causing trouble what business of mine is it where they have their office.
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| legaleagle 20 Apr 17 5.59pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Well, by people who are Roma. True.If you go to some of the places where the less well known holocaust took place by the fascists against Roma in C and E Europe,they are generally called "gypsies",as a pejorative term, by many of the rest of the population and all too often still subject to pretty abysmal second class citizen status
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| Hrolf The Ganger 20 Apr 17 6.02pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
The Klan, I'd definitely have an issue with, they're a terrorist group of religiously inspired extremists - with a disturbing history of violence and links to terrorist groups in the US and beyond. The BNP, I'd be a bit concerned, mostly for them as I do live in a largely multicultural area, with a very large student population. Still, as long as they're not causing trouble what business of mine is it where they have their office. But none of them have ever done anything to you and these Klan members have never been involved in illegal activity that you know of. Are you still concerned? Yes? Welcome to the human race.
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 20 Apr 17 6.03pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Who else finds the use of this stupid word really annoying? Just you then.
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| legaleagle 20 Apr 17 6.06pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What about if the KLu Klux Klan moved in next door or the BNP set up their head office across the road? I remember when the NF HQ "Pub" was nearby in Streatham...if you replace "blacks" and "asians" with (choose ethnic group of your choice), it's amazing how much of their fascistic claptrap has now become acceptable in polite society ..bit like the other NF fascists in France...I see good old "mainstream" politician Marine was only last week denying the well documented right wing French role in the 1942 round up of Jews in Paris...ho hum. No,I wouldn't want someone whose views I abhorred as a neighbour,ideally..but that is specific to the individuals and their views rather than sweeping bigotry towards a whole ethnic group regardless of their individual characteristics.They are not one and the same thing.
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 20 Apr 17 6.08pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
And what in your opinion constitutes a closed mind? Ignorant types that aren't accepting or even hateful of a whole race/religion/colour/nationality purely because they are different to themselves. People that are unable to break free of stereotyping and and margelising and generally getting too much joy fromhating others for no real particular reason.
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