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Originally posted by slubglurge
Our away form is a real worry. We show no ambition at all, three goalless away games off the trot Yes , i watched the whole game and i cant remember a shot on target or off target to think of it for the whole game .
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Originally posted by CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE
Have to say, Steve cooper is a far better manager than Viera. Tactically. Just don’t see what Viera managerial prowess is. Mitchell, Milli should not be anywhere on the pitch. He can’t get fire out of the players, would not be surprised that he lost the locker room already. At the start of the season I could not see the end of the Vieira reign,I can now.
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
Perhaps there is too much creativity. The Arsenal Invincibles side of which Vieira was a key part was robust in midfield and defence; the cherry on the cake was the exceptional forward abilities of Bergkamp and Henry. No players in "free" roles scratching their balls on the halfway line. The French national side was similar, robust in midfield and defence. This is where the game is won and lost, ask Brasil after the 7-1 drubbing by a hard working, skilful and organised German side. You are correct, Wilf, Eze, Olise/Ayew and Doucoure with Hughes, Jairo until we can get someone better in, one too many flair players
“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
We are trying to accommodate Zaha, Olise, Eze and Edouard which in some ways is admirable but they are all ball players who are not great out of possession. You can have that four in, but Ayew/Olise need to make way for another DM
“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
You are correct, Wilf, Eze, Olise/Ayew and Doucoure with Hughes, Jairo until we can get someone better in, one too many flair players Even with today's poor performance by MO, I just don't see what people see in Ayew. Yet again his technical limitations were there for all to see. Being able to press doesn't make him a PL player
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
The Famous Five, it gave Tottenham the reputation for being the most attacking team that ever existed. Wasn't Klinsmann one of them? Klinsmann, Barmby, anderton, Sheringham and someone else. Gica Popescu and Illie Dumitrescu are names in my head too. The sad thing is, like Spurs in '94/'95 we have attacking potential, but with no platform to build on, we don't have a chance of consistently winning games. Especially away.
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Originally posted by Willo
I perused at the starting line-up and concluded that we would get totally overrun in midfield. Edited by Willo (22 Oct 2022 6.32pm) I didn't see the game and Willo issuing such a splenetic jeremiad means Match of the Day will be given the coldest of shoulders.
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How many more games with the same set-up and being overrun and outplayed in midfield?
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Originally posted by palace chick
Well, certainly a bad display today and substitutions didn’t help as well. As for our midfield, it’s been non existent all season but luckily we have picked up points with it being poor. We have one midfield player every match selected with Dacoure being the best to choose from. Sadly he is always on his own and today it was Luka’s turn to be our one midfielder. Yes, he was at fault for Everton’s first goal but that isn’t our problem, it’s team selection with no support for our one midfielder who gets selected. Luka in the second half was then replaced and our midfield suffered even more as our midfield had no recognised midfield players? As for the other players chosen to play in midfield each week they are square pegs in round holes. It doesn’t work having so many forward style players playing in midfield as they aren’t strong enough to battle for the ball or positional play in the middle. So often this season as today they couldn’t pass or control the ball to set up attacks nor support anyone around them. The back four are under tremendous pressure because of this and today they couldn’t hold out. Everton had an easy day I’m afraid and unless changes in the middle are made today’s result will happen more often. A balanced midfield is required and some of our favourite players need to be on the bench where they will be more beneficial coming on later in the game? He actually wasn’t as at fault as Guehi was. But not as cool to hassle Guehi. Agree Luka was poor though. No worse than anyone else mind.
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Originally posted by NE14T
The players must look at Veira’s team and set up and be equally baffled. I’m sure they are disillusioned. I acknowledge we are thin in midfield but there was no excuse for playing Milo on his own in central midfield. Ridiculous and we all called it before match. (Except one oddball Milo fan) Edited by NE14T (22 Oct 2022 5.00pm) Edited by NE14T (22 Oct 2022 5.02pm) Assume I’m the oddball fan you’re referring to? I’m actually not really - just think people deserve a chance before they get slated. And yes, Luka was poor. But no worse than anyone else to be fair. Woeful from 1-11.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
I didn't see the game and Willo issuing such a splenetic jeremiad means Match of the Day will be given the coldest of shoulders. Rest assured, I shall NOT be watching our drivel on MOTD.
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
On the coach on the way back... Absolutely awful. I don't care what people said about Leicester last week this was worse. The Wolves result masked another poor performance where Wolves really should of been 3-0 up at half time. I say it every week it feels like but I stand by what I say.. If we are going to start with players like Luka, Ayew and Ward then we are bang in trouble. All 3 of those are Championship players at best and only half decent ones. What on earth has happened to Mitchell?? Unless he can see the easy pass to Zaha he is totally lost.. We have not progressed from last season. We've gone backwards. The most frustrating thing about today is we played an Everton side who have struggled since the day Lampard took over and they didn't even need to get out of second gear. To be perfectly honest I have never rated Mitchell as highly as others and I was flabbergasted when he was called up by England.He is still young of course and a 'Work in progress' but he is has not made any progress in recent times in actual fact he has regressed.
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
On the coach on the way back... Absolutely awful. I don't care what people said about Leicester last week this was worse. The Wolves result masked another poor performance where Wolves really should of been 3-0 up at half time. I say it every week it feels like but I stand by what I say.. If we are going to start with players like Luka, Ayew and Ward then we are bang in trouble. All 3 of those are Championship players at best and only half decent ones. What on earth has happened to Mitchell?? Unless he can see the easy pass to Zaha he is totally lost.. We have not progressed from last season. We've gone backwards. The most frustrating thing about today is we played an Everton side who have struggled since the day Lampard took over and they didn't even need to get out of second gear. This is not particularly surprising.
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
This is not particularly surprising. This was entirely my view. Edited by Willo (22 Oct 2022 7.22pm)
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