We have those things.

The famous film of the shooting makes it clear that he was shot from two positions. Only a good deal of brainwashing has made people see something else.
We have a man who claims to have been a shooter describing a bullet casing that he bit and dropped behind a fence which was later found with the bite mark still there.
Why do you thing Jack Ruby shot Oswald? Do you seriously believe that a mafia associate had a rush of patriotism?

There is so much more.

Any evidence or testamony that contradicted the official line was ignored or misinterpreted by the Warren Commission.

The American government will never confirm the validity of any evidence because it would be highly damaging.
Whether it was a mob hit or government agencies that were responsible, it could never be publically acknowledged.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 May 2024 9.20am)

The bottom line here is that you always believe the official line. Therefore, you are not open to any evidence, however compelling.

The 'truth' that people believe is often governed by what is publically acknowledged by the government. Equally, some will always disbeleive officialdom.

In the end, a balanced view will weigh the evidence and decide based on reason.
That won't be achieved by looing up a wiki page.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 May 2024 10.49am)

The bottom line is I will believe when something is proved. Not when it is just believed by everyone else. I might harbour doubts and as a consequence keep an open mind on something but until there is unequivocal truth established I won’t claim certainty.

When what is being presented as justification for any theory could actually be explained in other ways then I have more suspicions about the theory than I do about the conclusions of an official enquiry conducted by an independent body and subject to intense audit.

The issue with Y-L was never about him being “correct”. The scandal was known about. It wasn’t discovered by Y-L. He just read about it in the newspapers and decided to make a career out of by talking about it and obstructing the police and other authorities in their work. Some of which was subsequently shown to have been inadequate, in ways unrelated to anything connected to Y-L.

The problem was always that rather than actually helping he hindered. He threatened the integrity and success of prosecutions by his actions. Read this and it will be clear. It’s 6 years old but shows just what he was up to:-

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What’s true or not has nothing to do with governments, or what they say. It only concerns evidence that is factual. Governments may well obscure the truth, but that’s an unrelated issue. If you don’t know something, for any reason, you don’t know it. You may think you do, but you don’t.

Oswald was shot dead. I don’t know why. But this account from someone who was responsible for trying to find out seems logical:-

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Being suspicious encourages enquiry but does not provide evidence.

Oswald did kill someone else before being arrested. Why would he have done that unless he was the JFK gunman? This is another logical explanation of motives. His target could have actually been Connally and not JFK!

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None of this proves anything but they are at least as good theories as any others. Until we know which, if any, are right, we remain unsure.

That most people thought the world was flat doesn’t mean anything other than that they were ignorant and were believing without evidence. It was a hypothesis that like all hypotheses remains the most logical explanation until a better one arrives. Which it did and any argument stopped.

Authoritarian states can instruct whatever they like and demand compliance but they cannot command the heart. You either believe or you don’t. That’s unrelated to what you do.

Propaganda can mold opinion and hide the truth from most but those determined to find it can and do, often at great personal risk. Big Brother was a fiction that described this!

2 + 2 isn’t 5! You don’t need anything more than your fingers to understand that.

Err....... maybe not:

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