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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 27 Feb 20 8.49pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
They are islamic or muslim or pakistani or asian or non white or brown. As I have explained I really don't think those terms are either accurate or helpful to anyone or anything. Except for juicy headlines in the Mail. But they definitely are describable as more than just 'criminals'. Evil? Anti-social? Dangerous?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Feb 20 8.59pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
No difference. They have to have a description of some sort. How they handle things internally, and on the doorsteps, is their business. If they ask for the media to assist them then I would expect them to be more circumspect and, from what I can tell, they are. It's the sensationalist media that are the big problem.
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Teddy Eagle  27 Feb 20 9.07pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
How they handle things internally, and on the doorsteps, is their business. If they ask for the media to assist them then I would expect them to be more circumspect and, from what I can tell, they are. It's the sensationalist media that are the big problem. If those responsible were predominantly Welsh, or had Liverpool accents or red hair wouldn’t it be mentioned at some stage? The media can’t help much if they’re are limited to describing the guilty parties.
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| dannyboy1978 27 Feb 20 9.15pm |
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If the majority of people on this site view them as muslim grooming gangs why should we stop calling them by this?
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| Stirlingsays 27 Feb 20 9.16pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
If those responsible were predominantly Welsh, or had Liverpool accents or red hair wouldn’t it be mentioned at some stage? The media can’t help much if they’re are limited to describing the guilty parties. Remember Teddy, be positive....they are not 'Welsh'....they are 'friends of sheep'.
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| Teddy Eagle 27 Feb 20 9.37pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Remember Teddy, be positive....they are not 'Welsh'....they are 'friends of sheep'. Indeed. Or Men Who Play with Odd Shaped Balls.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Feb 20 10.00pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
If those responsible were predominantly Welsh, or had Liverpool accents or red hair wouldn’t it be mentioned at some stage? The media can’t help much if they’re are limited to describing the guilty parties. Unless they are asked to help by publishing Police descriptions then the media ought to stick to known facts. So often though what they do is speculate and pander to prejudice.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Feb 20 10.03pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
If the majority of people on this site view them as muslim grooming gangs why should we stop calling them by this? They shouldn't. Wouldn't want anyone here damaging their precious biases by having a sudden rush of new thinking.
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| dannyboy1978 27 Feb 20 10.04pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Unless they are asked to help by publishing Police descriptions then the media ought to stick to known facts. So often though what they do is speculate and pander to prejudice. They are mainly muslim.
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| dannyboy1978 27 Feb 20 10.22pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They shouldn't. Wouldn't want anyone here damaging their precious biases by having a sudden rush of new thinking. When is a fact bias?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Feb 20 10.23pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
They are mainly muslim. Were any of them charged with being "Muslim" let alone found guilty? It may well be that the perpetrators are, in origin at least, "mainly Muslim" but it seems unlikely they all are. Is that though actually germane to the crime? If it isn't why mention it? Especially if it can produce negative side effects.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Feb 20 10.31pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
When is a fact bias?
Opinions can be though.
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| Teddy Eagle 27 Feb 20 10.44pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Were any of them charged with being "Muslim" let alone found guilty? It may well be that the perpetrators are, in origin at least, "mainly Muslim" but it seems unlikely they all are. Is that though actually germane to the crime? If it isn't why mention it? Especially if it can produce negative side effects.
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| dannyboy1978 28 Feb 20 6.28am |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
I haven’t read the entire thread but have the last 4 pages or so with interest... I will say as a recently retired policeman of 18 years that the Police have and do shall we say ‘address things’ differently when it comes to any other race except white British or any other religion except Christianity.... Read into that what you will.. Can you give any excamples?, very interesting and unfortunately not surprised.
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| W12 28 Feb 20 6.56am | |
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This seems to be significant but very much played down at the moment.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 28 Feb 20 8.04am |
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Originally posted by W12
This seems to be significant but very much played down at the moment. I don't blame them the attitude of the Greek authorities is just as bad as the EU: 1). Greek government blames EU for not taking their share of refuges. 2) Greek Islanders blame rest of Greece / Greek Government for not taking their share of refuges. These are smallish Island that were once tourist destinations and have now been overwhelmed by the decision to place refuge camps on them. I suspect tourisism has now collapsed and the locals probably feel they have been overrun. Whether these new people are refuges or economic migrants is kinda beside the point at the moment. Greece and the EU seem content to dump them on these Islands and to hell with the locals. Imagine the channel Island being overrun. Still no doubt Frau Merkel has told the Greek government if you want some of that lovely EU money to support your economy this is the price you will pay. I feel sorry for these folk, 2 years ago I had a vacation on a small Greek island like a lot of these places they are a small tight knit community that look after it each this must have been a real shock to their way of life.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Feb 20 9.20am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
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| .TUX. 28 Feb 20 9.28am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They shouldn't. Wouldn't want anyone here damaging their precious biases by having a sudden rush of wrong thinking. EFA.
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