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MDH1969 Flag Stowmarket 08 Jan 21 11.21pm

It's not about where we are.I remember
The times of Bright/Wright and scoring
For fun,but we don't move forward on the pitch and when you have a talent like WILF it is frustrating for him and us.

Come on SP give us a change

 

palace chick Flag South Croydon 08 Jan 21 11.29pm

Originally posted by subbuteo

This talk about settling for where we are is like wishing the pandemic to continue. Don’t you want to go out and have fun with your friends? What’s the point of continuing the PL to ‘entertain us’ if it is just about ‘staying alive’. I’ve had the joy of supporting our loveable club since 73 and being introduced through a manager who managed to keep his job whilst getting relegated in successive seasons. I don’t remember being bored, although I was young, but i know i got hooked. My kids are just bored because we are stuck, like we’ve seen us stuck before in other divisions. I can live with that if we at least go after one trophy but it doesn’t seem part of the plan. I love the Leicester chant “oh Jeffrey Schlupp he’s won more than you”. It’s true. I’m sure SP wants it as much as the rest of us so can we please just try and win a trophy or at least scrape into Europe before we all die... and if we get entertained popping up and down on the way... well isn’t that the club we all love. Cant take any more of this. I’d like the pandemic to end please.

Well said, I started in 68 and feel exactly the same as you - keep safe

 

CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE Flag bloomfield 08 Jan 21 11.48pm

This turning around, bending over and removing our pants to knees length asking the opponent to come get some from our 74 year old orifice without a fight is pure BS. We even tell the opponent to not bother with the grease. This is not why I became a palace supporter. And was on the verge of opening a fan club in my town based on the history and genetics of our past conquest. Will NOT be doing that with the dross we are forced to endure under RH. No way. Was called a football ignorant yank on this forum for voicing this, will just clarify - Im anything but. I know fossils when I see them. RH (Bless his heart) is one, that lives on happenstance every once in a while, to just get by. Am just about done

 

Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 09 Jan 21 4.55am

The longer Roy stays, the longer we will continue to stagnate, the longer we will continue to not draw top talent and the likes of Zaha will go...

When Zaha goes, we will see him flourish elsewhere.... when Roy goes, we will see anew side flourish...

We will realize that we truly wasted the best opportunity we ever had to have exciting, fun football led by Zaha.

 


This was once a quality forum....

Dancer Cat Flag Farnborough 09 Jan 21 7.55am

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

Tonight was a tipping point for me. Why set up with 3 up top and a defensive midfield.

With 3 up top we still managed zero shots on goal. You can't set up so negatively as once you go 1 down there is no plan B.

The players just looked like they could not be bothered. That must have been a reflection on the team talk. What did Roy say 'Don't worry lads we don't fancy a cup run this year.'

It is not the first time we have had no shots on target in a game
Its just dull. I would rather go down fighting than simply surrender.


Excellent post which sums up my mindset to a tee.

As soon as I saw how Roy had lined us up you knew it would be 1-0 or 2-0.

I was prepared to back Roy until the end of the season out of respect.

Last night has eroded that respect

 

eagleheath Flag Burgess Hill 09 Jan 21 8.06am

It’s not just watching Roy’s drossball that irks me but his post match interviews when he claims we played well and were unlucky. It’s time for Parish to act and pull the plug

 

southnorwoodhill Flag 09 Jan 21 8.31am

Groundhog Day. Same circular comments one year on. If this club is to progress Hodgson must go, if the club's raison d'être is to enjoy lower table survival with no cup runs or hint of Europe then he stays. What is the ambition of the club? Hodgson has done no better than Pulis despite having his "best squad".

 

EddieMac Flag 09 Jan 21 9.16am

Roy will not be getting sacked half way through a season where we are not in danger of relegation. The big question will be is he going to get a contract extension?

If he happens to finish the season strongly then there is every chance that he will be kept on, especially if Parrish doesn’t have a suitable replacement and at this moment in time none of us seem to be able to come up with suitable replacement options.

Edited by EddieMac (09 Jan 2021 9.16am)

 

Jacey Flag 09 Jan 21 9.32am

Same old,same old....played well but beaten by a wonder goal.NO shots on target!!!

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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 09 Jan 21 9.42am

What a shocking post match interview. Show some balls man and say what it really was. It was a shocking performance with zero shots on target in the entire match. He is defending the indefensible, I would prefer it if he came out and criticised the players and promised to do something about it.

The main problem is that he thinks that kind of performance is acceptable and we will always be bang average until that mentality goes.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Jan 21 9.45am

Originally posted by Jacey

Same old,same old....played well but beaten by a wonder goal.NO shots on target!!!

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Mr Hodgson treated with a degree of disdain the comment put to him about NO shots on target, asserting that there were opportunities with the ball driven across the box,whilst accepting that the team did not create any concrete chances.

Mark Warburton at QPR does not look at the possession statistics, just chances created in a game and last night we created absolutely NOTHING.

 

palace chick Flag South Croydon 09 Jan 21 9.55am

Originally posted by EddieMac

Roy will not be getting sacked half way through a season where we are not in danger of relegation. The big question will be is he going to get a contract extension?

If he happens to finish the season strongly then there is every chance that he will be kept on, especially if Parrish doesn’t have a suitable replacement and at this moment in time none of us seem to be able to come up with suitable replacement options.

Edited by EddieMac (09 Jan 2021 9.16am)

We are in danger of relegation, you just don’t see that because we are 11 points from 3rd from bottom and that team has 2 games in hand over us. We will get dragged down there in the coming couple of months with the way we are playing under RH. Hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am :-(

 

McPalace Flag Carshalton Village 09 Jan 21 9.55am

Steve Parrish will not sack Roy Hodgson and that’s a given so Roy should put the club first and walk away or perhaps change his role within the club and let someone else take over the running of the team

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Jan 21 10.18am

Originally posted by palace chick

We are in danger of relegation, you just don’t see that because we are 11 points from 3rd from bottom and that team has 2 games in hand over us. We will get dragged down there in the coming couple of months with the way we are playing under RH. Hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am :-(

Yes I agree that relegation is a real possibility.

The squad resembles 'Dad's Army' and is creaking like the hip joints of an octogenarian harlot.
We lack vim,vigour,pace and energy, with some players past their best.
We are not even halfway through the season,the players are not going to get any younger and discover the elixir of youth and the only way we are heading is 'South'.

 

NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 09 Jan 21 10.25am

Originally posted by Willo

Yes I agree that relegation is a real possibility.

The squad resembles 'Dad's Army' and is creaking like the hip joints of an octogenarian harlot.
We lack vim,vigour,pace and energy, with some players past their best.
We are not even halfway through the season,the players are not going to get any younger and discover the elixir of youth and the only way we are heading is 'South'.

Well, the way infections are rising in the football community, I think we are heading towards another COVID related break.

That will either give our old boys a much needed rest, or it will result in another nose dive in form as happened last time.

 


Old, Ungifted and White

Elphers40 Flag Sunny South Coast 09 Jan 21 12.47pm

Same old same old! Complete lack of game plan beyond “keep it defensively tight and solid”.

Usual changes at 70 minutes when it’s too late for the players coming on to impact the game.

Why can’t we start the game with an attack minded formation and encourage our numerous creative players to express themselves .

Got to bite the bullet and buy a striker who will give us more than CB and once safe got to get a new manager in who will help us move beyond the same old restricted, narrow defensive football that gets the odd result but is no fun to watch!

 

MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 09 Jan 21 1.30pm

Another pathetic performance sucking the life out of Palace fans. This is not what football is about.

Fed up. Season can’t end soon enough and Roy steps down off his own accord. If he lasts that long.

 

TheBigToePunt Flag 09 Jan 21 1.44pm

Originally posted by Willo

Yes I agree that relegation is a real possibility.


Relegation has always been a real possibility, and probably always will be. We are the 16th highest spenders in the league and can't spend a lot more due to FFP, so why would we not be looking over our shoulder every season?

Which leads me to two (genuine) questions for those so dissatisfied with the football played under Hodgson:

1. Which Premier league teams, with a comparable budget to ours, have played a style of football you'd be happy with at Palace whilst also achieving adequate results?

Southampton under Hasenhuttl perhaps? Otherwise I really can't think of anyone. Bournemouth, Norwich, Fulham, Huddersfield, Stoke. Swansea West Brom and maybe Watford all played arguably better stuff than us in recent years but didn't get results. Meanwhile Burnley, us and even Newcastle under the lauded Benitez all survived playing anti-football.

2. Is there a time you were happy with the football Palace played in the top flight that could be replicated now?

I didn't see the team of the 80s, though I do know they got relegated. I'd love for us to play like Coppells early 90s side and rough the big boys up a bit, but we'd get two or three red cards a week.

Various coaches couldn't do anything to keep us in the Premier league for more than a single season until this recent spell, in which Pulis and Allardyce were anti-football advocates and got results. Pardew tried to develop the style but lost the trust of the club along the way.

I really can't think of a time Palace stayed in the top flight playing anything other than negative football.

When I ask myself these two questions I can only conclude that, even with his evident faults, Roy Hodgson is not the problem at Palace. Instead he is a symptom and a logical consequence of the actual problem which is, and has always been, that a club like ours is overwhelmingly unlikely to stay up playing anything other than negative football.

 

MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 09 Jan 21 2.21pm

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Relegation has always been a real possibility, and probably always will be. We are the 16th highest spenders in the league and can't spend a lot more due to FFP, so why would we not be looking over our shoulder every season?

Which leads me to two (genuine) questions for those so dissatisfied with the football played under Hodgson:

1. Which Premier league teams, with a comparable budget to ours, have played a style of football you'd be happy with at Palace whilst also achieving adequate results?

Southampton under Hasenhuttl perhaps? Otherwise I really can't think of anyone. Bournemouth, Norwich, Fulham, Huddersfield, Stoke. Swansea West Brom and maybe Watford all played arguably better stuff than us in recent years but didn't get results. Meanwhile Burnley, us and even Newcastle under the lauded Benitez all survived playing anti-football.

2. Is there a time you were happy with the football Palace played in the top flight that could be replicated now?

I didn't see the team of the 80s, though I do know they got relegated. I'd love for us to play like Coppells early 90s side and rough the big boys up a bit, but we'd get two or three red cards a week.

Various coaches couldn't do anything to keep us in the Premier league for more than a single season until this recent spell, in which Pulis and Allardyce were anti-football advocates and got results. Pardew tried to develop the style but lost the trust of the club along the way.

I really can't think of a time Palace stayed in the top flight playing anything other than negative football.

When I ask myself these two questions I can only conclude that, even with his evident faults, Roy Hodgson is not the problem at Palace. Instead he is a symptom and a logical consequence of the actual problem which is, and has always been, that a club like ours is overwhelmingly unlikely to stay up playing anything other than negative football.

Time and football moves on. Making comparisons to different eras is difficult to judge. The key is to keep moving forward. Currently I feel we are stagnated. Hodgson is only part of the issue. None the less should be doing better in my opinion.

 

Dancer Cat Flag Farnborough 09 Jan 21 2.25pm

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Relegation has always been a real possibility, and probably always will be. We are the 16th highest spenders in the league and can't spend a lot more due to FFP, so why would we not be looking over our shoulder every season?

Which leads me to two (genuine) questions for those so dissatisfied with the football played under Hodgson:

1. Which Premier league teams, with a comparable budget to ours, have played a style of football you'd be happy with at Palace whilst also achieving adequate results?

Southampton under Hasenhuttl perhaps? Otherwise I really can't think of anyone. Bournemouth, Norwich, Fulham, Huddersfield, Stoke. Swansea West Brom and maybe Watford all played arguably better stuff than us in recent years but didn't get results. Meanwhile Burnley, us and even Newcastle under the lauded Benitez all survived playing anti-football.

2. Is there a time you were happy with the football Palace played in the top flight that could be replicated now?

I didn't see the team of the 80s, though I do know they got relegated. I'd love for us to play like Coppells early 90s side and rough the big boys up a bit, but we'd get two or three red cards a week.

Various coaches couldn't do anything to keep us in the Premier league for more than a single season until this recent spell, in which Pulis and Allardyce were anti-football advocates and got results. Pardew tried to develop the style but lost the trust of the club along the way.

I really can't think of a time Palace stayed in the top flight playing anything other than negative football.

When I ask myself these two questions I can only conclude that, even with his evident faults, Roy Hodgson is not the problem at Palace. Instead he is a symptom and a logical consequence of the actual problem which is, and has always been, that a club like ours is overwhelmingly unlikely to stay up playing anything other than negative football.

Fair (but depressing) assessment.

In many ways posts like this make me even more angry about last night - if one is going to be pragmatic in the league due to necessity, then f***ing well “have a go” in cup games (for us, the fans)

 

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