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Originally posted by subbuteo
This talk about settling for where we are is like wishing the pandemic to continue. Don’t you want to go out and have fun with your friends? What’s the point of continuing the PL to ‘entertain us’ if it is just about ‘staying alive’. I’ve had the joy of supporting our loveable club since 73 and being introduced through a manager who managed to keep his job whilst getting relegated in successive seasons. I don’t remember being bored, although I was young, but i know i got hooked. My kids are just bored because we are stuck, like we’ve seen us stuck before in other divisions. I can live with that if we at least go after one trophy but it doesn’t seem part of the plan. I love the Leicester chant “oh Jeffrey Schlupp he’s won more than you”. It’s true. I’m sure SP wants it as much as the rest of us so can we please just try and win a trophy or at least scrape into Europe before we all die... and if we get entertained popping up and down on the way... well isn’t that the club we all love. Cant take any more of this. I’d like the pandemic to end please. Well said, I started in 68 and feel exactly the same as you - keep safe
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
Tonight was a tipping point for me. Why set up with 3 up top and a defensive midfield. With 3 up top we still managed zero shots on goal. You can't set up so negatively as once you go 1 down there is no plan B. The players just looked like they could not be bothered. That must have been a reflection on the team talk. What did Roy say 'Don't worry lads we don't fancy a cup run this year.' It is not the first time we have had no shots on target in a game
As soon as I saw how Roy had lined us up you knew it would be 1-0 or 2-0. I was prepared to back Roy until the end of the season out of respect. Last night has eroded that respect
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Same old,same old....played well but beaten by a wonder goal.NO shots on target!!!
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Originally posted by Jacey
Same old,same old....played well but beaten by a wonder goal.NO shots on target!!! Mr Hodgson treated with a degree of disdain the comment put to him about NO shots on target, asserting that there were opportunities with the ball driven across the box,whilst accepting that the team did not create any concrete chances. Mark Warburton at QPR does not look at the possession statistics, just chances created in a game and last night we created absolutely NOTHING.
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Originally posted by EddieMac
Roy will not be getting sacked half way through a season where we are not in danger of relegation. The big question will be is he going to get a contract extension? If he happens to finish the season strongly then there is every chance that he will be kept on, especially if Parrish doesn’t have a suitable replacement and at this moment in time none of us seem to be able to come up with suitable replacement options. Edited by EddieMac (09 Jan 2021 9.16am) We are in danger of relegation, you just don’t see that because we are 11 points from 3rd from bottom and that team has 2 games in hand over us. We will get dragged down there in the coming couple of months with the way we are playing under RH. Hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am :-(
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Originally posted by palace chick
We are in danger of relegation, you just don’t see that because we are 11 points from 3rd from bottom and that team has 2 games in hand over us. We will get dragged down there in the coming couple of months with the way we are playing under RH. Hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am :-( Yes I agree that relegation is a real possibility. The squad resembles 'Dad's Army' and is creaking like the hip joints of an octogenarian harlot.
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Originally posted by Willo
Yes I agree that relegation is a real possibility. The squad resembles 'Dad's Army' and is creaking like the hip joints of an octogenarian harlot. Well, the way infections are rising in the football community, I think we are heading towards another COVID related break. That will either give our old boys a much needed rest, or it will result in another nose dive in form as happened last time.
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
Relegation has always been a real possibility, and probably always will be. We are the 16th highest spenders in the league and can't spend a lot more due to FFP, so why would we not be looking over our shoulder every season? Which leads me to two (genuine) questions for those so dissatisfied with the football played under Hodgson: 1. Which Premier league teams, with a comparable budget to ours, have played a style of football you'd be happy with at Palace whilst also achieving adequate results? Southampton under Hasenhuttl perhaps? Otherwise I really can't think of anyone. Bournemouth, Norwich, Fulham, Huddersfield, Stoke. Swansea West Brom and maybe Watford all played arguably better stuff than us in recent years but didn't get results. Meanwhile Burnley, us and even Newcastle under the lauded Benitez all survived playing anti-football. 2. Is there a time you were happy with the football Palace played in the top flight that could be replicated now? I didn't see the team of the 80s, though I do know they got relegated. I'd love for us to play like Coppells early 90s side and rough the big boys up a bit, but we'd get two or three red cards a week. Various coaches couldn't do anything to keep us in the Premier league for more than a single season until this recent spell, in which Pulis and Allardyce were anti-football advocates and got results. Pardew tried to develop the style but lost the trust of the club along the way. I really can't think of a time Palace stayed in the top flight playing anything other than negative football. When I ask myself these two questions I can only conclude that, even with his evident faults, Roy Hodgson is not the problem at Palace. Instead he is a symptom and a logical consequence of the actual problem which is, and has always been, that a club like ours is overwhelmingly unlikely to stay up playing anything other than negative football. Time and football moves on. Making comparisons to different eras is difficult to judge. The key is to keep moving forward. Currently I feel we are stagnated. Hodgson is only part of the issue. None the less should be doing better in my opinion.
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
Relegation has always been a real possibility, and probably always will be. We are the 16th highest spenders in the league and can't spend a lot more due to FFP, so why would we not be looking over our shoulder every season? Which leads me to two (genuine) questions for those so dissatisfied with the football played under Hodgson: 1. Which Premier league teams, with a comparable budget to ours, have played a style of football you'd be happy with at Palace whilst also achieving adequate results? Southampton under Hasenhuttl perhaps? Otherwise I really can't think of anyone. Bournemouth, Norwich, Fulham, Huddersfield, Stoke. Swansea West Brom and maybe Watford all played arguably better stuff than us in recent years but didn't get results. Meanwhile Burnley, us and even Newcastle under the lauded Benitez all survived playing anti-football. 2. Is there a time you were happy with the football Palace played in the top flight that could be replicated now? I didn't see the team of the 80s, though I do know they got relegated. I'd love for us to play like Coppells early 90s side and rough the big boys up a bit, but we'd get two or three red cards a week. Various coaches couldn't do anything to keep us in the Premier league for more than a single season until this recent spell, in which Pulis and Allardyce were anti-football advocates and got results. Pardew tried to develop the style but lost the trust of the club along the way. I really can't think of a time Palace stayed in the top flight playing anything other than negative football. When I ask myself these two questions I can only conclude that, even with his evident faults, Roy Hodgson is not the problem at Palace. Instead he is a symptom and a logical consequence of the actual problem which is, and has always been, that a club like ours is overwhelmingly unlikely to stay up playing anything other than negative football. Fair (but depressing) assessment. In many ways posts like this make me even more angry about last night - if one is going to be pragmatic in the league due to necessity, then f***ing well “have a go” in cup games (for us, the fans)
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