Speroni, Ward, Mariappa, Dann, Bolasie, Dikgacoi, Puncheon, Jedinak, Delaney, Gabbidon, Moxey, Ledley, Chamakh, Bannan, Jerome.
Players with double digit appearances in 2013 under Tony Pulis, a side that finished a respectable 11th in the PL.

Roy Hodgson hasn't progressed the playing side at all, despite all his "experience" and access to his "best squad".
Perhaps it can be argued that he has held the fort, but what for? Treading water lower table survival tactics for 3 seasons? Where's the ambition from the club?
For additional perspective, I recommend scrolling down and comparing Hodgson's win percentage to that of other managers:

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Edited by southnorwoodhill (09 Jan 2021 5.29pm)

Totally agree..

Roy is in charge of the best squad we have had since being in the Prem, yet we are still woefully under achieving.

Using a "Royism" I was "apoplectic" at the team selection for the Wolves game - it's the FA Cup, OK give fringe players a run, but where was the opportunity for the u23 players..??

As others have said why drag "first teamers" across the country just to sit on the bench.

Look at the squad for yesterday's games just rotated the senior squad, not even a place for Meyer.

If Roy is not going to give the youngsters a chance in the 3rd round of the FA Cup, that clearly he doesn't see as important/a priority what is the point of the U23 squad..??

Then to produce such and abject and lack lustre performance - no shots on target in the whole game..!!

I accept that we are at the level where being solid is the primary requisite - but there is a massive difference between being defensive first and the current "Royball" we are seeing.

We used to be exciting/dangerous on the break - we ain't even doing that now.

Roy's tactics are stifling the whole squad and we are going backwards.

I have said on numerous occasions that Roy has lost the dressing room and the players are not playing for him - yesterdays performance just emphasises that further - now he can't even motivate/inspire the fringe players into a performance.

Some will point to the Sheffield Utd result - but lets be clear that was a result against a side that are bottom of the table with 2 points after 17 games and couldn't even fill their bench and one of those was a 16 year old.

A resurgent Arsenal and City up next within the space of 4 days - on current form we will get absolutely spanked by both.

Then a series of games up until the end of Feb where we should/need to get some points, if that doesn't happen then we are in serious trouble because our end of season run in is a nightmare..!!

On the positive side I can't see the bottom 3 getting much beyond the 30 point mark - Sheffield Utd probably not even close to that.

But we shouldn't be in that position - with the squad we have we should be pushing towards a top 10 position and enjoying watching them play.

But Roy and his tactics are nullifying the ability and quality of this squad.

I have said before I think Roy has and that is the big thing "has" done a good job for us - but it ain't working now and it's time for a change and that time is now..!!

COYP

Statistical comparisons with Pulis and Allardyce aren't worth much IMO because they were with us for less than a season and both walked with more than a hint that recruitment or (control of) was the problem.

Pardew's tenure was two years but after a run of brilliant results and some fantastic performances things literally fell off a cliff with him managing 27 points from 37 games over a year.

Performances are a concern, and any manager is only 6-8 games from the sack, but Roy has thus far kept us away from a relegation battle for three and a half years with minimal spend. Neither has he played games via the media. In fact he spoke in the owners favour when Wan Bissaka was sold despite seeing relatively little of the money reinvested.

I would imagine that Parish and the yanks would probably be very happy with the way he's performed protecting their asset without rocking the boat.

Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (09 Jan 2021 7.27pm)

No, not really, most of the time I see us come up against teams that have better, faster, improving players and have just spent £80 mil. I thought we were quite literally outrun by Aston Villa's ten men.

I agree there are some good players in our squad but most are on their way down at the same time.

The speed, intensity, physicality and technical skill is at at different level to when we were promoted eight years ago IMO.

Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (09 Jan 2021 8.10pm)

Agree we were out run by Aston Villa's 10 men - but not because of physicality or lack of talent - but because of poor tactics and that is down to Roy.

And that my friend is the crux of the problem..!!

COYP

But his finishing position over the last three years indicates that he hasn't under performed despite having spent very little and managed the team much longer.

Even last season we were safe with eight games to go making the post COVID games a bit of a non-event.

Our worst points total since being promoted was in the 2016-17 season when Pardew and Allardyce managed 41 despite spending £85 mil between them on Benteke, Townsend, Tomkins, Van Aanholt, Schlupp, Luka (Sakho Loan). All still here but four years older and on the way down at 30 yrs.

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We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't think it's down to Roy's tactics that the players are slow and can't keep pace with younger opposition.

No coincidence that we were so poor against a young Brighton team either IMO.

Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (09 Jan 2021 8.50pm)

He said a while back that eze needs to adjust his game. Roy means to become a DM I think. The boys are not enjoying their football. Why the hell doesnt someone break ranks and actually say it. Especially the mega mulla ones. Even just to help the younger ones not getting games when they maybe should. Is roy saying that not 1 under 23 player could step up; mitchell only as pva and schlupp were injured so that wasnt a 'choice' by roy. Or are they really ok with it or is money really their god?

I think that for half of the Premier League, survival is the top priority.

For Palace I think it boils down to money. Look at the net spend on players over the last 3 years - Willo will no doubt keep me honest, but I think it's around £10m. Comparative peanuts.

Parish has invested a lot of funds into the Academy and that's absolutely the right thing to do. So while everything around the first team manager and squad smack of the short term, the Academy will hopefully bear fruit for years to come.

In the meantime, pending any fresh inward investment, we are likely to be stuck in the cycle we are in.

Old, Ungifted and White

His task is to ensure that we stay in the PL, not to build for the future and he trusts his more experienced players to meet this objective.