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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 18 Apr 23 10.02am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

I would like Roy to stay on another season but will he bleed the younger players in?

Which ones do you think are worth bleeding in bearing in mind Roy's orders from above will be to win as many games as possible

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Apr 23 10.19am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Which ones do you think are worth bleeding in bearing in mind Roy's orders from above will be to win as many games as possible

People like to overcomplicate football.

Roy was cautious when he was here before because we had a whole season of fixtures, half against teams who we have no business beating.
His only mission this time was to win games against teams who are arguably worse than we are. He could afford to be positive.

I didn't like the vibe under Vieira, it had clearly run out of steam and ideas, but our results from the run of fixtures before his departure was what you might expect give or take a few wasted points.
Roy obviously doesn't have many more games left in him, age wise, and that is the only reason why we don't sign him up for another three years right now. He is as good as we could ever hope for.

When Roy left it felt like it was the right time. This time round, if Roy keeps this form going till the end of the season, it might be a little harder for the next guy. Big shoes to fill.

 

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View Croydon-Trucker's Profile Croydon-Trucker Flag 18 Apr 23 10.40am Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

I would like Roy to stay on another season but will he bleed the younger players in?

I think Roy sees everyone in our squad as a young player .

 

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View DANGERCLOSE's Profile DANGERCLOSE Flag london 18 Apr 23 11.24am Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

Like on Saturday Roy brings on Tomkins instead of Richards and where's Ahamada gone?

And when Rak Saki comes back does he get a game or just 5 mins at the end of a match?

 

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View Mwncisee's Profile Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 18 Apr 23 11.33am Send a Private Message to Mwncisee Add Mwncisee as a friend

A lot of background noise that Palace are the front runners to get Arne Slot. Trying to move to get him before Spurs and West Ham. Now being reported that Dougie has met with him.

 

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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 18 Apr 23 11.49am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

Arne Slot comes from the same country as a certain De Boer, right?

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Apr 23 11.55am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

Like on Saturday Roy brings on Tomkins instead of Richards and where's Ahamada gone?

And when Rak Saki comes back does he get a game or just 5 mins at the end of a match?


Hodgson has said he is sticking with experience on and from the bench until we're safe. Don't forget he's playing:
- Olise 21
- Eze 24
- Doucoure 23
- Mitchell 23
so, he's not averse to including younger players.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 18 Apr 23 12.00pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

Like on Saturday Roy brings on Tomkins instead of Richards and where's Ahamada gone?

And when Rak Saki comes back does he get a game or just 5 mins at the end of a match?

He is here to get results, I doubt development of inexperienced youngsters is part of his brief.

 

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View Mwncisee's Profile Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 18 Apr 23 12.06pm Send a Private Message to Mwncisee Add Mwncisee as a friend

Originally posted by thai-eagle

Arne Slot comes from the same country as a certain De Boer, right?

Yep. His record is good. Not massively experienced but has had success in each he has been at. Has most certainly got a record of getting the players at the clubs playing better than expected.

 

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View dg1937's Profile dg1937 Flag 18 Apr 23 1.09pm Send a Private Message to dg1937 Add dg1937 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

People like to overcomplicate football.

Roy was cautious when he was here before because we had a whole season of fixtures, half against teams who we have no business beating.
His only mission this time was to win games against teams who are arguably worse than we are. He could afford to be positive.

I didn't like the vibe under Vieira, it had clearly run out of steam and ideas, but our results from the run of fixtures before his departure was what you might expect give or take a few wasted points.
Roy obviously doesn't have many more games left in him, age wise, and that is the only reason why we don't sign him up for another three years right now. He is as good as we could ever hope for.

When Roy left it felt like it was the right time. This time round, if Roy keeps this form going till the end of the season, it might be a little harder for the next guy. Big shoes to fill.

I do wonder whether Roy would have set the team up any differently from Pat in that tough run of games e.g. Man City at home where we might well have got a point had Olise not made a rash challenge in the box. Roy has undoubtedly brought a change of mood but he has done it against relatively weak opposition.

And, when it comes to discussions about boring football we have seen over the years I am surprised that Dougie’s tenure apart from half a season or so never gets a mention.

Edited by dg1937 (18 Apr 2023 1.10pm)

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 18 Apr 23 2.59pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend


Sheesh, people don't half like getting carried away on here, lol.

I like RH, and and the first to admit that it I was wrong, and he has made a tremendous impact upon his return, but 3 games against bottom of the the league oppo is not enough of an indicator to judge exactly where we are.

RH has come in, and we are playing with a renewed freedom - but let's not kid ourselves, in those 3 games there were times where we haven't competed and rode our Luck(aka 1st half vs leeds). In our last vs southampton, we didn't look anywhere near the attacking force we were (at times) vs Leeds or Leicester.

He's been a breath of fresh air since the times of PV, but lets all remember the lesson Ole Gunnar Solskjær taught ManU fans. It's waaaay to soon, and with our remaining fixtures, the minimum I'd expect is comfortable safety, from any manager worth his salt.

 


"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Apr 23 3.18pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger


Sheesh, people don't half like getting carried away on here, lol.

I like RH, and and the first to admit that it I was wrong, and he has made a tremendous impact upon his return, but 3 games against bottom of the the league oppo is not enough of an indicator to judge exactly where we are.

RH has come in, and we are playing with a renewed freedom - but let's not kid ourselves, in those 3 games there were times where we haven't competed and rode our Luck(aka 1st half vs leeds). In our last vs southampton, we didn't look anywhere near the attacking force we were (at times) vs Leeds or Leicester.

He's been a breath of fresh air since the times of PV, but lets all remember the lesson Ole Gunnar Solskjær taught ManU fans. It's waaaay to soon, and with our remaining fixtures, the minimum I'd expect is comfortable safety, from any manager worth his salt.

To be fair, we rode our luck under Vieira as well.
We've had the rub of the green in terms of decisions this season.

It's fair to say that Roy has to beat teams below us in the table, and he has a clearly defined target. PV was suffering from no wins syndrome. He had run out of zing. It was clear from his body language. It's tough being the manager when you aren't winning week after week, even if you are playing teams who higher in the league.
Things were going from bad to worse in terms of performance, which didn't help.

 

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