Notice how none of these 'characters' are ever Palace fans either? It's a disgrace.

It was nauseatingly woke.

Dr Who is not meant to be a simple minded guide to the history of race relations.

White kids are being brainwashed to hate themselves and care more about everybody else's interests over their own.

It's truly perverse. You don't need a kids sci fi show to preach about American racial segregation.

I should remind you that there were some sections of Black activism that supported segregation. Life is not simple enough to be dramatized for the purposes of politically prejudiced education.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 May 2022 1.30pm)

Hasnt Dr Who featured previously social and global politics?

All Dr Whos until the recent one have been white.. as in the main 'good guy'. I assume your sudden about turn and idea that the show must be incredibly racist is solely due to a black people finally playing the lead role. Token or not that's an odd conclusoon to draw. Mr 'don't let them pull your strings' unnerved by black doctor whos and 'black supremacists'.. At least you're now comically also angered by neo nazis though due to a Ukranian situation. A quality that was very much abscent on here during times where it may have been actually helpful and useful to speak up.

Edited by BlueJay (09 May 2022 3.17pm)

Come on Bluejay. This is nothing but token casting designed to look 'right on'. They have been building up to it for a few years now.
The show is drowning in purposefully targeted wokery. The media loves trying to please minorities, but forgets the majority who pay for them. 4% of the population are ridiculously overrepresented and for what?

I hope the shows ratings fall off the chart. The only positive is that Russell T Davies actually knows how to write good, albeit sexuality obsessed stories.

All Dr Whos until the recent one have been white.. as in the main 'good guy'. I assume your sudden about turn and idea that the show must be incredibly racist is solely due to a black people finally playing the lead role. Token or not that's an odd conclusoon to draw. Mr 'don't let them pull your strings' unnerved by black doctor whos and 'black supremacists'.. At least you're now comically also angered by neo nazis though due to a Ukranian situation. A quality that was very much abscent on here during times where it may have been actually helpful and useful to speak up.

Edited by BlueJay (09 May 2022 3.17pm)

I don't disagree that there's a token aspect to it - indeed I stated that. That itself is a problem in my view because what's wrong with coming up with new and interesting characters that have no previous history to them? So I do see the push in that direction or how sometimes it's a natural change that annoys, and others a far more pushed, contrived one. Problem being, it's treated as 'tokenism' regardless. Dr Who, is a fictional character that's varied in lots of ways over the years so why not racially, so I find the push 'for' a character to fit a certain criteria, and also the inevitable reaction against and how that is used by some to drum up dislike to be equally nuasiating. Where it's a real person cast as a different race (which of course has happeend too) there's a far better argument against, as it just comes off as designed to get a reaction. So I do appreciate that if they push racial 'set piece' type issues to inflame, it's probably not the right place. To the extent that aspect is present here, I agree with you.

Within fiction though, it's called acting for a reason, so I think it's best to just see how someone does in the role than invalidate it due to their race. I'm not sure that's it great to just want it to fail by default because there's a black lead. People being angered by this, are at political opposites but identital in their approach to whose who declare that if a character in a movie is disabled he simply 'has' to be in everyday life too, or if they're gay they have to be gay in real life also. It's the same level of adamance that certain people simply must play certain roles. I think both perspectives are silly really, but if you try to be balanced or not get drawn into one foaming at the mouth tribe or another you're in nobodys best books really! People are hyper politicised across the board. Well at least those who are vocal or activist types etc.

Most people in daily life thankfully aren't, as none of it helps anyone anyway really. We're in a new world of instant 'rage, then turn the page'. Attention span gone due to being rewired for internet life, fixated on whatever we're told to be fixated on. Seperated into little echo chamber groups with arbitrary bundles of beliefs that half the time in no way even belong together anyway. I'm not sure we quite grasp what it's done to us. Strange days.

Edited by BlueJay (09 May 2022 4.21pm)

BBC News last night reported on the TV BAFTA awards earlier in the night. The report highlighted that "It's a Sin", although much-nominated, didn't win a single award. The voiceover then said (paraphrased) that if a drama series with such a subject matter (AIDS) can't win a award, then one has to wonder how the BAFTAs can remain relevant to young people.

Pick the bones out if that! My reaction was: "Eh?!!". In the olden days (love 'em or hate 'em) I'm sure TV awards were given on the basis of technical, artistic etc achievement. Now the relevant BBC correspondent thinks BAFTAs should be awarded simply because a programme was about the gays. Baffling.