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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 May 21 12.17pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Delusion on your part that you think your views represent the British public. The anti-BBC feeling on here (along with pretty much every pretty political position) is not reflective of the country as a whole.



Perhaps not but I hope that you recognise that there is a sizeable number of people in the country who do feel that way and the BBC is not helping itself if it wants to hang onto the licence fee.

The last time I saw a report about non payment the trend was that it was growing at about 1% per year at that point several years ago it stood at 7%.

Since then you can add to it the several hundred thousand over 75's who are refusing to pay.

In addition to the people who are actively refusing to pay a growing number of young people are simply not interested in conventional TV and are streaming instead now this also impacts ITV and C4 so is not solely a BBC issue.

It maybe that those of us who want to defund the BBC are in a minority but the wind is blowing in our direction so unless the BBC ups it game just like Brexit and also the Poll Tax there comes a tipping point.

The numbers of people not paying is confusing I have just read various conflicting reports and of course the population has actually grown so the license fee numbers has actually gone up. They know how many people have informed them they will not pay but of course many people simply never have a licence so their number is pure guess work.

And above all of this is the threat to prosecute if that was removed how many people would continue to pay?

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 23 May 21 12.35pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Delusion on your part that you think your views represent the British public. The anti-BBC feeling on here (along with pretty much every pretty political position) is not reflective of the country as a whole.

Lets have a referendum on the funding model then.

I believe that abolishing the compulsory licence fee would win with a clear and resounding majority. Not even close.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 May 21 12.49pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Lets have a referendum on the funding model then.

I believe that abolishing the compulsory licence fee would win with a clear and resounding majority. Not even close.

Every year nearly 200,000 people are taken to court by the BBC for non payment no wonder the beeb doesn't want non payment to be decriminalised.

You can't accurately gauge how popular the BBC is when it is compulsory to buy a licence with the real threat of taking people to court and a criminal record.

I pay my licence because I am scared of being dragged into court given the choice I would happily not pay how many other people feel that way.

Edited by Badger11 (23 May 2021 12.51pm)

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 23 May 21 1.22pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11


I pay my licence because I am scared of being dragged into court given the choice I would happily not pay how many other people feel that way.

Edited by Badger11 (23 May 2021 12.51pm)


I do so soley because my wife does not want the envelopes dropping through the front door from then. Otherwise would happily stop paying tomorrow.

Its time is over. The funding model is simply not fit for purpose in this modern age. But these are all rehashed arguments.


If Government wishes to retain a centrally funded broadcaster then it needs to be paid for our general tax funding. Not as a 'licence fee'. And certainly not within a legal framework that can see people hauled up in front of the courts by way of judgements and/or fines.

 


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in terms of license fee ? i would happily pay double if the TV company was riddled with arch Conservative staff.

 


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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


in terms of license fee ? i would happily pay double if the TV company was riddled with arch Conservative staff.

This is why the American system....while it is obviously flawed....actually caters to different political demographics. While most networks are left the most successful political show is Tucker Carlson on Fox.

The BBC can only do a left of centre neo liberalism....Essentially the televisual version of the Guardian.

If you're on the right there is no representation in Britain on the television.....and considering you have had a conservative heading the government for the last ten years it's quite ridiculous.

The BBC is clearly not going to change and I view it as unreformable. All we will hear is the usual gnashing of teeth, promises, and the moving around of deckchairs.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 May 2021 2.01pm)

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 23 May 21 4.07pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Lets have a referendum on the funding model then.

I believe that abolishing the compulsory licence fee would win with a clear and resounding majority. Not even close.

It would if you phrased the question as ‘would you abolish the license fee?’ as people would think they would be saving money. If it was ‘would you abolish the BBC?’ it would be a resounding no.

 

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Originally posted by DanH

It would if you phrased the question as ‘would you abolish the license fee?’ as people would think they would be saving money. If it was ‘would you abolish the BBC?’ it would be a resounding no.

REALLY? You actually belive the majority of people would vote to keep the #defundthebbc. Give ya head a wobble.

 


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Originally posted by eagleman13

REALLY? You actually belive the majority of people would vote to keep the #defundthebbc. Give ya head a wobble.

In the entire U.K.? Yes. Comfortably.

 

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Originally posted by DanH

In the entire U.K.? Yes. Comfortably.

The point is that people who don't wish to have the BBC should be able to leave it far easier.

Many many people hardly use it at all, and in effect the rules have been structured in such a way that owning a TV means you have the license fee.

Unethical.

 


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Originally posted by DanH

In the entire U.K.? Yes. Comfortably.

So, you are hoping that Scotland, Wales & NI will vote in favour of #defundthebbc? This kids dont watch telly & most 30-50yo know how to stream Netflix etc.

#defundthebbc is a dinosaur, its archaic, its lost its core viewers/source of income, the 'wrinklies' ie people like me. I told the licencing authority I would NOT pay for a left-wing bias woke, virtual signaling company hell bent on it's own agenda.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The point is that people who don't wish to have the BBC should be able to leave it far easier.

Many many people hardly use it at all, and in effect the rules have been structured in such a way that owning a TV means you have the license fee.

Unethical.

Oh I agree, it’s totally a stealth tax. I think it’s insane value for money but then I have 6music on almost 24/7 so more than get my money’s worth.

 

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