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Stirlingsays 09 Dec 19 11.31am
Originally posted by Matov Apparently one 'Progressive' organisation expects women who were actually born women and who are quite happy to be one to describe themselves as 'non-trans women'. Utter madness. Edited by Matov (09 Dec 2019 10.51am) Hey, I've just spotted some non-trans women! [Tweet Link] 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

09 Dec 19 11.31am

Originally posted by Matov

Apparently one 'Progressive' organisation expects women who were actually born women and who are quite happy to be one to describe themselves as 'non-trans women'.

Utter madness.

Edited by Matov (09 Dec 2019 10.51am)

Hey, I've just spotted some non-trans women!

[Tweet Link]

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 09 Dec 19 11.47am
I've just looked up the definition of woman in the Collins English Dictionary. It says: "A woman is an adult female human being" OK, so how is female defined by the same publication? "Someone who is female is a woman or a girl." "You can refer to any creature that can lay eggs or produce babies from its body as a female." Which is a relief, because I really didn't think it was as complicated as some want to make it. Although Collin was a man of course, when he started his dictionary. Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

mezzer

Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 09 Dec 19 11.47am

I've just looked up the definition of woman in the Collins English Dictionary. It says:

"A woman is an adult female human being"

OK, so how is female defined by the same publication?

"Someone who is female is a woman or a girl."

"You can refer to any creature that can lay eggs or produce babies from its body as a female."

Which is a relief, because I really didn't think it was as complicated as some want to make it.

Although Collin was a man of course, when he started his dictionary.

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

Badger11 Beckenham 09 Dec 19 12.12pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Jo Swinson was answering questions on the Radio 5 phone in this morning and the very first caller asked her how to define a woman and the caller was like a Rottweiler with a bone as she just wouldn't give up as she included such comments like "how about a man who wears a dress twice a week" So you see you could be in trouble for describing someone as a woman Nick Ferrari ran a story about a woman who had been sexually abused refusing to allowing a Trans nurse to examine her more intimate parts. The hospital decided she was transphobic because she asked for a biological female nurse. This stuff is getting out of all proportion since when did the trans lobby becomes so powerful, they seem immune from justified criticism. And yes the LGBT community and the feminists have brought this on themselves. I feel sorry for the average woman who just wanted to be treated fairly and now see many of the things they fought for at threat not from the old enemy "misogynistic men" but the so called progressives e.g. unisex toilets. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 09 Dec 19 12.12pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Jo Swinson was answering questions on the Radio 5 phone in this morning and the very first caller asked her how to define a woman and the caller was like a Rottweiler with a bone as she just wouldn't give up as she included such comments like "how about a man who wears a dress twice a week"

So you see you could be in trouble for describing someone as a woman

Nick Ferrari ran a story about a woman who had been sexually abused refusing to allowing a Trans nurse to examine her more intimate parts. The hospital decided she was transphobic because she asked for a biological female nurse.

This stuff is getting out of all proportion since when did the trans lobby becomes so powerful, they seem immune from justified criticism.

And yes the LGBT community and the feminists have brought this on themselves. I feel sorry for the average woman who just wanted to be treated fairly and now see many of the things they fought for at threat not from the old enemy "misogynistic men" but the so called progressives e.g. unisex toilets.

One more point

Matov 09 Dec 19 12.26pm
Originally posted by Badger11 And yes the LGBT community and the feminists have brought this on themselves. Not sure you can blame feminists for this. Plenty of well-known feminists being non-platformed now because they refuse to bow down to this deviant spaghetti orthodoxy. But we are through the looking glass on this. The case of the trans thingy, and convicted rapist to boot, that the Prison service allowed to move to a female prison who then goes on to sexually assault women is proof enough. Beyond all rational comprehension, how this came from seemingly nowhere and now is not only accepted as the norm but people being hauled in for questioning by the Police if they dare challenge it. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

09 Dec 19 12.26pm

Originally posted by Badger11

And yes the LGBT community and the feminists have brought this on themselves.

Not sure you can blame feminists for this. Plenty of well-known feminists being non-platformed now because they refuse to bow down to this deviant spaghetti orthodoxy.

But we are through the looking glass on this. The case of the trans thingy, and convicted rapist to boot, that the Prison service allowed to move to a female prison who then goes on to sexually assault women is proof enough. Beyond all rational comprehension, how this came from seemingly nowhere and now is not only accepted as the norm but people being hauled in for questioning by the Police if they dare challenge it.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Stirlingsays 09 Dec 19 12.52pm
Originally posted by Matov Not sure you can blame feminists for this. Plenty of well-known feminists being non-platformed now because they refuse to bow down to this deviant spaghetti orthodoxy. But we are through the looking glass on this. The case of the trans thingy, and convicted rapist to boot, that the Prison service allowed to move to a female prison who then goes on to sexually assault women is proof enough. Beyond all rational comprehension, how this came from seemingly nowhere and now is not only accepted as the norm but people being hauled in for questioning by the Police if they dare challenge it. It's not come out of nowhere really. It's intersectional feminism and has been taught in the universities for decades.....Now those people are in management positions. They gain power by shaping the language and cloaking everything within 'rights' and 'equality'. As for some older tradition feminists falling foul of the intersectionals.....Well, that's just the left eating their own. Some older feminists are now considered right wing....which is kind of hilarious and shows you just how far left the goalposts have shifted. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

09 Dec 19 12.52pm

Originally posted by Matov

Not sure you can blame feminists for this. Plenty of well-known feminists being non-platformed now because they refuse to bow down to this deviant spaghetti orthodoxy.

It's not come out of nowhere really. It's intersectional feminism and has been taught in the universities for decades.....Now those people are in management positions.

They gain power by shaping the language and cloaking everything within 'rights' and 'equality'.

As for some older tradition feminists falling foul of the intersectionals.....Well, that's just the left eating their own. Some older feminists are now considered right wing....which is kind of hilarious and shows you just how far left the goalposts have shifted.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Badger11 Beckenham 09 Dec 19 1.13pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays It's not come out of nowhere really. It's intersectional feminism and has been taught in the universities for decades.....Now those people are in management positions. They gain power by shaping the language and cloaking everything within 'rights' and 'equality'. As for some older tradition feminists falling foul of the intersectionals.....Well, that's just the left eating their own. Some older feminists are now considered right wing....which is kind of hilarious and shows you just how far left the goalposts have shifted. You both make good points and its a sad day when people as influential as Germaine Greer and Peter Thatchell are no platformed as you say Stirling the left eating their own. Edited by Badger11 (09 Dec 2019 1.14pm) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 09 Dec 19 1.13pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's not come out of nowhere really. It's intersectional feminism and has been taught in the universities for decades.....Now those people are in management positions.

They gain power by shaping the language and cloaking everything within 'rights' and 'equality'.

You both make good points and its a sad day when people as influential as Germaine Greer and Peter Thatchell are no platformed as you say Stirling the left eating their own.

Edited by Badger11 (09 Dec 2019 1.14pm)

One more point

Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Dec 19 6.36pm
Not sure I believe the photo of the boy laying on the floor in hospital is genuine. A bit close to the election maybe? COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 09 Dec 19 6.36pm

Not sure I believe the photo of the boy laying on the floor in hospital is genuine. A bit close to the election maybe?

COYP

Stirlingsays 09 Dec 19 6.46pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Not sure I believe the photo of the boy laying on the floor in hospital is genuine. A bit close to the election maybe? The media are so objective aren't they. Still won't make any difference, the left aren't winning this one. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

09 Dec 19 6.46pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Not sure I believe the photo of the boy laying on the floor in hospital is genuine. A bit close to the election maybe?

The media are so objective aren't they.

Still won't make any difference, the left aren't winning this one.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Dec 19 6.57pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays The media are so objective aren't they. Still won't make any difference, the left aren't winning this one. Correspondence I get from Conservatives mentions that it is going to be close.So many factors involved in the election.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Dec 19 6.57pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The media are so objective aren't they.

Still won't make any difference, the left aren't winning this one.

Correspondence I get from Conservatives mentions that it is going to be close.So many factors involved in the election.

Invalid user 2019 09 Dec 19 7.05pm
Originally posted by Willo Correspondence I get from Conservatives mentions that it is going to be close.So many factors involved in the election. Could it just be that they exaggerate this possibility to avoid complacency? Polls, as we well know, can be wrong but none of them really indicate anything other than a Conservative majority. Edited by dollardays (09 Dec 2019 7.05pm)

Invalid user 2019

09 Dec 19 7.05pm

Originally posted by Willo

Correspondence I get from Conservatives mentions that it is going to be close.So many factors involved in the election.

Could it just be that they exaggerate this possibility to avoid complacency? Polls, as we well know, can be wrong but none of them really indicate anything other than a Conservative majority.

Edited by dollardays (09 Dec 2019 7.05pm)

berlinpalace berlin 09 Dec 19 7.07pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Not sure I believe the photo of the boy laying on the floor in hospital is genuine. A bit close to the election maybe? Coverage of chicken Johnson refusing to look at the picture and then stealing the reporters’ phone is going viral. Not good for the incredible sulk. Laura Kissass tried to cover up for it by fabricating a story about one of Handjob’s minders getting punched but unfortunately there’s a nice little video of the clumsy t*** walking into a guy pointing his arm. And this is the pathetic bunch of lying, racist scumbags some of you think are fit to run the country? Amazing.

berlinpalace

berlin 09 Dec 19 7.07pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Not sure I believe the photo of the boy laying on the floor in hospital is genuine. A bit close to the election maybe?

Coverage of chicken Johnson refusing to look at the picture and then stealing the reporters’ phone is going viral. Not good for the incredible sulk.
Laura Kissass tried to cover up for it by fabricating a story about one of Handjob’s minders getting punched but unfortunately there’s a nice little video of the clumsy t*** walking into a guy pointing his arm.
And this is the pathetic bunch of lying, racist scumbags some of you think are fit to run the country? Amazing.

Invalid user 2019 09 Dec 19 7.11pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Not sure I believe the photo of the boy laying on the floor in hospital is genuine. A bit close to the election maybe? It's certainly real, and unfortunate. No doubt purposefully political by The Mirror, but really no different from any other newspapers behaviour regardless of their political bent. I'm sure both Labour and the Conservatives will both have some 'bombshell' timed for the day before the election in a bid to squeeze another percentage point out here or there. Edited by dollardays (09 Dec 2019 7.13pm)

Invalid user 2019

09 Dec 19 7.11pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Not sure I believe the photo of the boy laying on the floor in hospital is genuine. A bit close to the election maybe?

It's certainly real, and unfortunate. No doubt purposefully political by The Mirror, but really no different from any other newspapers behaviour regardless of their political bent. I'm sure both Labour and the Conservatives will both have some 'bombshell' timed for the day before the election in a bid to squeeze another percentage point out here or there.

Edited by dollardays (09 Dec 2019 7.13pm)

Midlands Eagle 09 Dec 19 7.23pm
Originally posted by berlinpalace And this is the pathetic bunch of lying, racist scumbags some of you think are fit to run the country? Amazing. Quite right. An anti semitic Marxist government would be much better

Midlands Eagle

09 Dec 19 7.23pm

Originally posted by berlinpalace

And this is the pathetic bunch of lying, racist scumbags some of you think are fit to run the country? Amazing.

Quite right. An anti semitic Marxist government would be much better

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Dec 19 7.28pm
Originally posted by dollardays Could it just be that they exaggerate this possibility to avoid complacency? Polls, as we well know, can be wrong but none of them really indicate anything other than a Conservative majority. Edited by dollardays (09 Dec 2019 7.05pm) Encouragement for one final push as we approach election day. In seats across the country the winner could be decided by just a handful of votes so whilst the polls are in our favour we are taking nothing for granted.We all recall 2017 !

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Dec 19 7.28pm

Originally posted by dollardays

Could it just be that they exaggerate this possibility to avoid complacency? Polls, as we well know, can be wrong but none of them really indicate anything other than a Conservative majority.

Edited by dollardays (09 Dec 2019 7.05pm)

Encouragement for one final push as we approach election day.

In seats across the country the winner could be decided by just a handful of votes so whilst the polls are in our favour we are taking nothing for granted.We all recall 2017 !

Invalid user 2019 09 Dec 19 7.30pm
Originally posted by Willo Encouragement for one final push as we approach election day. In seats across the country the winner could be decided by just a handful of votes so whilst the polls are in our favour we are taking nothing for granted.We all recall 2017 ! Yes that would be my take on it. You're right, there is very likely a fine margin between a decent sized majority or dreaded deals needed to push policy through. Edited by dollardays (09 Dec 2019 8.44pm)

Invalid user 2019

09 Dec 19 7.30pm

Originally posted by Willo

Encouragement for one final push as we approach election day.

In seats across the country the winner could be decided by just a handful of votes so whilst the polls are in our favour we are taking nothing for granted.We all recall 2017 !

Yes that would be my take on it. You're right, there is very likely a fine margin between a decent sized majority or dreaded deals needed to push policy through.

Edited by dollardays (09 Dec 2019 8.44pm)

berlinpalace berlin 09 Dec 19 7.31pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Quite right. An anti semitic Marxist government would be much better I wonder how many antisemites there are in the Tory Party? More than there are out and out racists? More than there are homophobes? Still, don’t worry about that now. Better stock up on meds while they’re still affordable.

berlinpalace

berlin 09 Dec 19 7.31pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Quite right. An anti semitic Marxist government would be much better

I wonder how many antisemites there are in the Tory Party? More than there are out and out racists? More than there are homophobes? Still, don’t worry about that now. Better stock up on meds while they’re still affordable.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Dec 19 7.32pm
Originally posted by Willo Encouragement for one final push as we approach election day. In seats across the country the winner could be decided by just a handful of votes so whilst the polls are in our favour we are taking nothing for granted.We all recall 2017 ! You should be in Croydon central all week then. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 09 Dec 19 7.32pm

Originally posted by Willo

Encouragement for one final push as we approach election day.

In seats across the country the winner could be decided by just a handful of votes so whilst the polls are in our favour we are taking nothing for granted.We all recall 2017 !

You should be in Croydon central all week then.

COYP

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Dec 19 7.32pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Quite right. An anti semitic Marxist government would be much better

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Dec 19 7.32pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Quite right. An anti semitic Marxist government would be much better

Stirlingsays 09 Dec 19 7.52pm
Originally posted by berlinpalace Coverage of chicken Johnson refusing to look at the picture and then stealing the reporters’ phone is going viral. Not good for the incredible sulk. Laura Kissass tried to cover up for it by fabricating a story about one of Handjob’s minders getting punched but unfortunately there’s a nice little video of the clumsy t* walking into a guy pointing his arm. And this is the pathetic bunch of lying, racist scumbags some of you think are fit to run the country? Amazing.** How incredibly unsurprising that you are in Germany. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

09 Dec 19 7.52pm

Originally posted by berlinpalace

Coverage of chicken Johnson refusing to look at the picture and then stealing the reporters’ phone is going viral. Not good for the incredible sulk.
Laura Kissass tried to cover up for it by fabricating a story about one of Handjob’s minders getting punched but unfortunately there’s a nice little video of the clumsy t*** walking into a guy pointing his arm.
And this is the pathetic bunch of lying, racist scumbags some of you think are fit to run the country? Amazing.

How incredibly unsurprising that you are in Germany.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 09 Dec 19 7.55pm
Originally posted by berlinpalace I wonder how many antisemites there are in the Tory Party? More than there are out and out racists? More than there are homophobes? Still, don’t worry about that now. Better stock up on meds while they’re still affordable. I'm smelling something....I think it's a whiff of 'bitter loser' by hypocrite. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

09 Dec 19 7.55pm

Originally posted by berlinpalace

I'm smelling something....I think it's a whiff of 'bitter loser' by hypocrite.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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