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 Rubin  09 Jun 16 10.16pm |
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Originally posted by blackpalacefan
You're both on the money i feel sorry for people thinking the country is going to undergo great change as result of the vote. Even if we vote out in a blink of an eye government will agree to free movement within trade deals. They will appease just enough to keep the staus quo. The little people have no real power. realising that is a hard but necessary truth in life and lets you lend your time to all that you control instead of all that you dont. Some need a reality check not a vote. It's more about preventing it get a lot worse in the future in my eyes, and putting out future in our own hands.
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| Stuk Top half 09 Jun 16 10.25pm |
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Originally posted by blackpalacefan
You're both on the money i feel sorry for people thinking the country is going to undergo great change as result of the vote. Even if we vote out in a blink of an eye government will agree to free movement within trade deals. They will appease just enough to keep the staus quo. The little people have no real power. realising that is a hard but necessary truth in life and lets you lend your time to all that you control instead of all that you dont. Some need a reality check not a vote. Very well stated. That's what I'd like to have written but apathy kicked in. The debate is just farcical, on both sides. And I'm someone who has wanted a vote on this, since I could vote.
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corkery  Cork City 10 Jun 16 12.07am |
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The new scare tactic is that the troubles in Northern Ireland will begin if the UK votes to leave.
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| Sportyteacher London 10 Jun 16 5.32am |
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Originally posted by npn
Oddly, she's done exactly what I've done in reverse - watched the lies and exaggerations and decided they can't trust anything they say (which is what I did with the Remainiacs, and jumped over to Leave) Were you taken in by the BREXIT battle bus with its lying figure of UK spending £360m on EU per week?
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| lancseagle burnley 10 Jun 16 8.00am |
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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
Were you taken in by the BREXIT battle bus with its lying figure of UK spending £360m on EU per week? It's not far off that figure. Whatever the real figure it's better spent over here & not propping up other EU member states failing economy's.
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| Hoof Hearted 10 Jun 16 8.15am | |
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Originally posted by corkery
The new scare tactic is that the troubles in Northern Ireland will begin if the UK votes to leave. Yes indeed - perpetuated by those lying toerags Blair and Major... the worst PM and second worst PM in living history. Apparently the IRA have got weapons of mass destruction that they can deploy against Norn Ireland in under 45 minutes of hearing that Brexit has won the Referendum. These weapons are primed and ready to be fired from Bally Button (a naval base in Southern Ireland).
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Attachment: | Hoof Hearted 10 Jun 16 8.23am | |
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Did anyone see the referendum debate on ITV last night? Sturgeon was allowed to monopolise the debate again like she did at the last General election. If I was Boris, I would have attacked her like Trump would have by pointing out that as the leader of SNP her sole desire is to get independence for Scotland from the UK, so essentially she is a "splitter" and as such her views on this debate are not relevant and not required...... and as Scotland represents less than 7% of the UK population, she should speak for 7% of the time. What an odious nasty scheming bitch she is.... and you thought Salmond was nasty?
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 10 Jun 16 8.23am |
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Originally posted by corkery
The new scare tactic is that the troubles in Northern Ireland will begin if the UK votes to leave. It could certainly make life complicated. If you are wanting to restrict the movement of people into your country it is barmy having a back door the size of Ireland for people to waltz through. Also from an economic perspective the consequences for both Ireland and N Ireland are more fragile due to the way businesses work cross border as well as workers. The two hour drive between Belfast & Dublin could suddenly become a fair bit longer.
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| npn Crowborough 10 Jun 16 8.24am |
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Originally posted by DanH
Genuine question - do UKIP go away if remain wins? Doubt it very much, in fact it would be the opposite - the SNP didn't go away when the sweaties voted to stay. I'd say the only way UKIP vanish is if leave wins (and the leave actually goes ahead, which I don't think is guaranteed, as politicians have a habit of weedling out of things they'd rather not do)
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| npn Crowborough 10 Jun 16 8.36am |
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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
Were you taken in by the BREXIT battle bus with its lying figure of UK spending £360m on EU per week? I believe that IS the figure, prior to rebates. I suspect the true net figure to be roughly half that. I was pretty much 50:50, but the blatant and patronising scare tactics of Remain have turned me right off. Corbyn wanted to leave. Both are now full behind Remain so, were they stupid then, are they stupid now, or are they just playing the political game with no concern about what is right or wrong for the country? I know which one I believe. Nothing we get from the EU we couldn't get on our own (yes, I know trade deals would need to be renegotiated, but since the EU sells more stuff to us than we do to them, I hardly think those deals will be of the harsh kind Remain would have you believe). I'm not even against immigration, I'd just like our country to be able to decide who it accepts and who it doesn't. African medical staff? Sure. Indian IT people (the good ones, not the sh1te I have to work with)? Sure. Slovakian prostitutes? Well, I'd rather we had the choice about whether we deem them conducive to the national good than simply have to take them because their country's in the same club as us.
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| npn Crowborough 10 Jun 16 8.38am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Did anyone see the referendum debate on ITV last night? Sturgeon was allowed to monopolise the debate again like she did at the last General election. If I was Boris, I would have attacked her like Trump would have by pointing out that as the leader of SNP her sole desire is to get independence for Scotland from the UK, so essentially she is a "splitter" and as such her views on this debate are not relevant and not required...... and as Scotland represents less than 7% of the UK population, she should speak for 7% of the time. What an odious nasty scheming bitch she is.... and you thought Salmond was nasty? Still would - but only if she promises to scream "fandabidozy" at the point of orgasm.
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| Hoof Hearted 10 Jun 16 8.45am | |
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Originally posted by npn
I believe that IS the figure, prior to rebates. I suspect the true net figure to be roughly half that. I was pretty much 50:50, but the blatant and patronising scare tactics of Remain have turned me right off. Corbyn wanted to leave. Both are now full behind Remain so, were they stupid then, are they stupid now, or are they just playing the political game with no concern about what is right or wrong for the country? I know which one I believe. Nothing we get from the EU we couldn't get on our own (yes, I know trade deals would need to be renegotiated, but since the EU sells more stuff to us than we do to them, I hardly think those deals will be of the harsh kind Remain would have you believe). I'm not even against immigration, I'd just like our country to be able to decide who it accepts and who it doesn't. African medical staff? Sure. Indian IT people (the good ones, not the sh1te I have to work with)? Sure. Slovakian prostitutes? Well, I'd rather we had the choice about whether we deem them conducive to the national good than simply have to take them because their country's in the same club as us. Sturgeon wants Scotland to split from the UK FFS so why is she supporting Remain? So that's 3 leaders of the UK's largest political parties all now supporting Remain when in reality they would be for Brexit. They are all playing politics and couldn't give a fcuk about what is right and good for the UK. It's all about them and what is good for them. People are waking up and smelling the coffee, that is why the polls are changing to show support increasing for leave.... no believes Cameron, Corbyn or Sturgeon.
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 10 Jun 16 8.51am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Sturgeon wants Scotland to split from the UK FFS so why is she supporting Remain? So that's 3 leaders of the UK's largest political parties all now supporting Remain when in reality they would be for Brexit. They are all playing politics and couldn't give a fcuk about what is right and good for the UK. It's all about them and what is good for them. People are waking up and smelling the coffee, that is why the polls are changing to show support increasing for leave.... no believes Cameron, Corbyn or Sturgeon. SNP are pro Europe, on of the cornerstones of their manifesto last year was leaving Britain and closer ties with Europe. never quite understood the logic to be honest
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Jun 16 9.12am |
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| npn Crowborough 10 Jun 16 9.18am |
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Must be a wacist
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| Hoof Hearted 10 Jun 16 9.45am | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
SNP are pro Europe, on of the cornerstones of their manifesto last year was leaving Britain and closer ties with Europe. never quite understood the logic to be honest Supposedly, but I think her "support" for remain is a falsehood as she desperately wants Leave to win to trigger another Scottish referendum, but is too clever to be seen supporting Leave. She's manipulative.
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 10 Jun 16 9.58am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Supposedly, but I think her "support" for remain is a falsehood as she desperately wants Leave to win to trigger another Scottish referendum, but is too clever to be seen supporting Leave. She's manipulative. She's female
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| Hoof Hearted 10 Jun 16 10.01am | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
She's female I wouldn't be surprised if there was a pair of ginger nuts underneath her sporran!
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Jun 16 10.17am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Why do the Remainers keep bringing up the fact that migration has gone up in Australia using the points based system as if that means we can't use a similar system to control our immigration? It shows a remarkable naivety and lack of intelligence not to realise that each nation can set it's parameters according to it's current needs. Obviously Australia have a need to increase their population, but with desirable candidates, not every tom, dick or harry...or more likely fritz, pierre or diego that turns up fancying the aussie lifestyle but with no skills or grasp of english. Amber Rudd did it again last night and looked triumphant as she delivered the news..... We will use Australia's system, but set our own parameters to cater for our needs. Also her attack on Boris was pathetic too, which damaged her and the Remain camp more than Boris! Perhaps they should then say that 'we will have a points style system, but one that is different to the Australian one' rather than 'like the Australian one' just to make it crystal clear.
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