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Hoof Hearted 17 Jun 16 10.37am | |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
So, no, Nigel Farage isn’t responsible for Jo Cox’s murder. And nor is the Leave campaign. But they are responsible for the manner in which they have pressed their argument. Contradicts itself in consecutive sentences. So no, nowhere the money. A cheap attempt to discredit the Leave campaign. Talking of Farage.... He has to have security wherever he goes due to lefty nutters like class war that cannot even leave him in peace to enjoy a Sunday Lunch with his family down the pub. I have often thought his life might be in danger. I am surprised that somebody hasn't taken things a bit too far with MP's and Politicians before this incident, as people take matters too seriously and can't debate peacefully these days. With regard to this incident, it is of course a sad day (and I apologise for my earlier attempt at black humour to lighten the mood) BUT none of us know this man's motives and it is all conjecture. By his very actions you can deduce he is not of a sound mind but little else at this stage. A nearby bystander claims he heard the man say "Britain First" Or "Put Britain first".... he wasn't sure what he heard. Now people are latching onto that as "fact" and are blaming the Leave campaign and Farage for her death, which is ridiculously unfair. I read and heard on the News that this MP had had problems a while back with abusive messages sent to her which the Police were aware of, so why no security? Whatever the guys motives I think people will probably react by deciding to vote Remain if they were undecided and this incident has probably shaped the future of the campaign and the result. RIP Jo Cox MP
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Nut jobs. Anyone wth far right views is. A deranged group to be sure. Full of hate. Just like the Wahhabis. Or far left. They are just as bad.
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One of those things. The guy was probably something of a timebomb in society, ticking away. The combination of politics and the national fervour over the referendum, can feed into mental health issues, resulting sometimes in an 'explosion'
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Hearing the eye witness didn't say just "Britain first" but put Britain first! Two quite different meanings. And he has links to far right European groups. Was on R4 this morning.
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The fact she was on the river the day before with her husband and children. They could have easily been with her yesterday, doesn't bear thinking about. Also sounds miraculous no one else was hurt or injured
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Originally posted by matt_himself
One matter that looks consistent is that the perpetrator had a history of mental health problems. Do we think a revision of mental health care is needed? For example locking up and chemically coshing those who could present a threat to human life? At this stage we have no idea what these mental health issues were. Its a wide ranging illness. You wouldn't usually consider someone with ocd or depression for example to be a pontential risk to murder someone. Sometimes these things happen. Even if it was a more serious mental health issue such as schizophrenia or some form of psychosis who is to say he ever expressed desires to kill or harm. 1 in 4 people will suffer with mental health issues we can't lock them all up and medicate them all
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Hoof Hearted 17 Jun 16 11.44am | |
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Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood
Hearing the eye witness didn't say just "Britain first" but put Britain first! Two quite different meanings. And he has links to far right European groups. Was on R4 this morning. The guy that heard it wasn't sure if it was "Britain First" or "Put Britain first". As you say, two entirely different meanings. I didn't hear any reference to the assailant having links to 'Far Right European Groups', all I heard was that he was a bit of a loner, but liked gardening and helping others. I think we should all wait until the Police have interviewed him before we decide/conclude what his motive was. Jumping to conclusions and having knee jerk reactions will not help the situation.
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
The guy that heard it wasn't sure if it was "Britain First" or "Put Britain first". As you say, two entirely different meanings. I didn't hear any reference to the assailant having links to 'Far Right European Groups', all I heard was that he was a bit of a loner, but liked gardening and helping others. I think we should all wait until the Police have interviewed him before we decide/conclude what his motive was. Jumping to conclusions and having knee jerk reactions will not help the situation.
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Hoof Hearted 17 Jun 16 11.47am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Any of it proven though, or is it just conjecture?
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
The guy that heard it wasn't sure if it was "Britain First" or "Put Britain first". As you say, two entirely different meanings. I didn't hear any reference to the assailant having links to 'Far Right European Groups', all I heard was that he was a bit of a loner, but liked gardening and helping others. I think we should all wait until the Police have interviewed him before we decide/conclude what his motive was. Jumping to conclusions and having knee jerk reactions will not help the situation. Totally agree and it may never become clear regardless of the police interviewing him . BUT the bottom line is a lot of.people and sections of the media would NOT be so calm or understanding if the perpetrator had said or been accused of saying anything remotely Islamic even if there was suspected mental health issues. You know it and I know it. We all know it
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
The guy that heard it wasn't sure if it was "Britain First" or "Put Britain first". As you say, two entirely different meanings. I didn't hear any reference to the assailant having links to 'Far Right European Groups', all I heard was that he was a bit of a loner, but liked gardening and helping others. I think we should all wait until the Police have interviewed him before we decide/conclude what his motive was. Jumping to conclusions and having knee jerk reactions will not help the situation. How so? And I mean that genuinely - whether it was 'Britain First' or 'Put Britain First', either would confirm a political motivation.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Or far left. They are just as bad. Political extremists, of any stripe, are dangerous. Whether the skinhead wanting to beat up some foreigners to the activist attacking animal testing workers.
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