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Midlands Eagle 17 Mar 23 2.33pm
Originally posted by m/k mick Coincidence or what?, Woy was at Selhurst last home game v Man City I hope that we don't appoint him as that means that the dickheads will start taking the mickey out of his speech defect again

Midlands Eagle

17 Mar 23 2.33pm

Originally posted by m/k mick

Coincidence or what?, Woy was at Selhurst last home game v Man City

I hope that we don't appoint him as that means that the dickheads will start taking the mickey out of his speech defect again

barrie2301 crystal palace 17 Mar 23 2.36pm
LOL! Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I hope that we don't appoint him as that means that the dickheads will start taking the mickey out of his speech defect again Edited by barrie2301 (17 Mar 2023 2.37pm)

barrie2301

crystal palace 17 Mar 23 2.36pm

LOL!

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I hope that we don't appoint him as that means that the dickheads will start taking the mickey out of his speech defect again

Edited by barrie2301 (17 Mar 2023 2.37pm)

Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 17 Mar 23 2.38pm
Originally posted by manwitheagletattoo I honestly think Steve Parish has got this wrong sacking Vieira is a panic sacking the last 12 games have not produced the results and the statistics don’t make good reading I understand that. Over the last 12 games we have played mostly top teams losing by a fine margin of 1:0 in each only Man Utd scored 2 against us and one was I believe an own goal.Reading on here we were all basically honest with some of the results against the top clubs. At the end of the day it the manager who takes the responsibility for the results again I understand that and maybe Vieira could have been a little more adventurous with team section . Possibly calling back some of our loan outs. But this board knew our weakness we have been crying out for squad strengthening for ages we have needed a striker for months and nothing was done even a loan would have been something in January. The board wouldn't spend and that will ultimately be our and their downfall. Ironically, we may still build a new stand to accommodate the 12,000 to 16,000 supporters who will turn up to watch Palace in the Championship. PL status is hard won and earned. Once lost it may be years before we see it again. So much for the new era under Veira!!! Denial is not just a river in Egypt

Henry of Peckham

Eton Mess 17 Mar 23 2.38pm

Originally posted by manwitheagletattoo

I honestly think Steve Parish has got this wrong sacking Vieira is a panic sacking the last 12 games have not produced the results and the statistics don’t make good reading I understand that. Over the last 12 games we have played mostly top teams losing by a fine margin of 1:0 in each only Man Utd scored 2 against us and one was I believe an own goal.Reading on here we were all basically honest with some of the results against the top clubs. At the end of the day it the manager who takes the responsibility for the results again I understand that and maybe Vieira could have been a little more adventurous with team section . Possibly calling back some of our loan outs. But this board knew our weakness we have been crying out for squad strengthening for ages we have needed a striker for months and nothing was done even a loan would have been something in January.

The board wouldn't spend and that will ultimately be our and their downfall. Ironically, we may still build a new stand to accommodate the 12,000 to 16,000 supporters who will turn up to watch Palace in the Championship. PL status is hard won and earned. Once lost it may be years before we see it again. So much for the new era under Veira!!!

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

eritheagle Erith 17 Mar 23 2.40pm
Originally posted by Glazier#1 I agree with that analysis. The loss of Gallagher was a huge blow and the never ending list of high-table opponents has given us a skewed vision of the season. Having written that, PV's man management, odd selections and strange substitutions have proved to be not small issues. It's timing that worries me most. i read one report that the timing is Vieira's own doing. Was gonna be in charge v Arsenal but went off grid yesterday (apparently he has done a few times in past few weeks) and club decided he's not up for the relegation fight.

eritheagle

Erith 17 Mar 23 2.40pm

Originally posted by Glazier#1

I agree with that analysis.

The loss of Gallagher was a huge blow and the never ending list of high-table opponents has given us a skewed vision of the season.

Having written that, PV's man management, odd selections and strange substitutions have proved to be not small issues.

It's timing that worries me most.

i read one report that the timing is Vieira's own doing. Was gonna be in charge v Arsenal but went off grid yesterday (apparently he has done a few times in past few weeks) and club decided he's not up for the relegation fight.

Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Mar 23 2.54pm
Originally posted by eritheagle i read one report that the timing is Vieira's own doing. Was gonna be in charge v Arsenal but went off grid yesterday (apparently he has done a few times in past few weeks) and club decided he's not up for the relegation fight. Interesting if true. I have to admit one frustration I had with PV was a mysticism that came across as ambivalence very often. As a fan you want to have some affinity with the manager and feel aligned however his aloof nature didn’t endear me as much as i tried. When times are tough as they are, you want the manager to reflect your own ‘call to arms’ or at least acknowledge the situation. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Mar 23 2.54pm

Originally posted by eritheagle

Interesting if true.

I have to admit one frustration I had with PV was a mysticism that came across as ambivalence very often.

As a fan you want to have some affinity with the manager and feel aligned however his aloof nature didn’t endear me as much as i tried. When times are tough as they are, you want the manager to reflect your own ‘call to arms’ or at least acknowledge the situation.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

EddieMac 17 Mar 23 3.12pm
Originally posted by manwitheagletattoo I honestly think Steve Parish has got this wrong sacking Vieira is a panic sacking the last 12 games have not produced the results and the statistics don’t make good reading I understand that. Over the last 12 games we have played mostly top teams losing by a fine margin of 1:0 in each only Man Utd scored 2 against us and one was I believe an own goal.Reading on here we were all basically honest with some of the results against the top clubs. At the end of the day it the manager who takes the responsibility for the results again I understand that and maybe Vieira could have been a little more adventurous with team section . Possibly calling back some of our loan outs. But this board knew our weakness we have been crying out for squad strengthening for ages we have needed a striker for months and nothing was done even a loan would have been something in January. We have lost games by 1 goal that we never looked liked getting anything from or even scoring a goal. We are shockingly bad and he would not change his approach. We lost 3 nil to an Everton side who were getting battered every week. We robbed a point against Newcastle and Brighton and the league had to apologise to them because of the errors. We are blessed to not be rooted to the foot of the table. Our squad is our squad and he knew who is players were so no point saying he was hard done by in transfer window. He is the wrong man for the job and would have led us to relegation.

EddieMac

17 Mar 23 3.12pm

Originally posted by manwitheagletattoo

We have lost games by 1 goal that we never looked liked getting anything from or even scoring a goal. We are shockingly bad and he would not change his approach. We lost 3 nil to an Everton side who were getting battered every week. We robbed a point against Newcastle and Brighton and the league had to apologise to them because of the errors. We are blessed to not be rooted to the foot of the table.

Our squad is our squad and he knew who is players were so no point saying he was hard done by in transfer window. He is the wrong man for the job and would have led us to relegation.

Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 17 Mar 23 3.14pm
Whoever the manager is, stick to these two facts, 1. If the ball is in the oppositions half they are unlikely to score. 2. The more times the ball is in the opponents box, the more likely you are to score. Simplistic, but true. “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 17 Mar 23 3.14pm

Whoever the manager is, stick to these two facts,

1. If the ball is in the oppositions half they are unlikely to score.

2. The more times the ball is in the opponents box, the more likely you are to score.

Simplistic, but true.

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Eaglecoops CR3 17 Mar 23 3.17pm
If Roy is taken on even temporarily that will be the last of my money Palace see until he is gone. The last year and a half of his tenure with us and then the brief stint at Watford tells you all you need to know. He is a dinosaur in modern day football and his tactics are as old as some of his post match cliche comments. It’s a resounding no from me.

Eaglecoops

CR3 17 Mar 23 3.17pm

If Roy is taken on even temporarily that will be the last of my money Palace see until he is gone. The last year and a half of his tenure with us and then the brief stint at Watford tells you all you need to know. He is a dinosaur in modern day football and his tactics are as old as some of his post match cliche comments.

It’s a resounding no from me.

martin2412 Living The Dream 17 Mar 23 3.20pm
Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig Ange Postecoglu would be my choice. We could get him if we really tried and then raid Celtic in the summer Let's hope they're all as good as Edouard eh ?

martin2412

Living The Dream 17 Mar 23 3.20pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Ange Postecoglu would be my choice. We could get him if we really tried and then raid Celtic in the summer

Let's hope they're all as good as Edouard eh ?

Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 17 Mar 23 3.27pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops If Roy is taken on even temporarily that will be the last of my money Palace see until he is gone. The last year and a half of his tenure with us and then the brief stint at Watford tells you all you need to know. He is a dinosaur in modern day football and his tactics are as old as some of his post match cliche comments. It’s a resounding no from me. I agree with you. As much as I supported him when he was here, I firmly believe his managerial days are over. We don't want more negative, out of date tactics. We need fire and brimstone! Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

Palace Old Geezer

Midhurst 17 Mar 23 3.27pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

It’s a resounding no from me.

I agree with you. As much as I supported him when he was here, I firmly believe his managerial days are over. We don't want more negative, out of date tactics. We need fire and brimstone!

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

Uphill Bedford 17 Mar 23 3.31pm
Whether you agree about his sacking or not, the sands of time were running out and if it had to happen then now is the best time. The new appointee will need time to gauge the strengths and weaknesses of the squad. Whoever it is will surely recognise the talent of the team and work out the formation best suited to this talent. Vieira's apparent lack of motivation and his seeming inability to find a solution to the lack of goals has cost him. One person who will stand or fall by this decision is Steve Parish and the buck stops with him.

Uphill

Bedford 17 Mar 23 3.31pm

Whether you agree about his sacking or not, the sands of time were running out and if it had to happen then now is the best time.

The new appointee will need time to gauge the strengths and weaknesses of the squad.

Whoever it is will surely recognise the talent of the team and work out the formation best suited to this talent.

Vieira's apparent lack of motivation and his seeming inability to find a solution to the lack of goals has cost him.

One person who will stand or fall by this decision is Steve Parish and the buck stops with him.

EddieMac 17 Mar 23 3.32pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops If Roy is taken on even temporarily that will be the last of my money Palace see until he is gone. The last year and a half of his tenure with us and then the brief stint at Watford tells you all you need to know. He is a dinosaur in modern day football and his tactics are as old as some of his post match cliche comments. It’s a resounding no from me. No word of a lie. I actually preferred his football to this seasons. We are currently abysmal. At least we had some form of hope under Roy.

EddieMac

17 Mar 23 3.32pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

It’s a resounding no from me.

No word of a lie. I actually preferred his football to this seasons. We are currently abysmal. At least we had some form of hope under Roy.

MonsterMunch Cambridge 17 Mar 23 3.34pm
Yeah kompany is not coming lol [Tweet Link]

MonsterMunch

Cambridge 17 Mar 23 3.34pm

Yeah kompany is not coming lol

[Tweet Link]

fish mitten Chelmsford 17 Mar 23 3.47pm
Of course he's not. Burnley will be in the Premier League next season. Our Board is doing everything it can to ensure we are not. Originally posted by MonsterMunch Yeah kompany is not coming lol [Tweet Link]

fish mitten

Chelmsford 17 Mar 23 3.47pm

Of course he's not. Burnley will be in the Premier League next season.

Our Board is doing everything it can to ensure we are not.

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

Yeah kompany is not coming lol

[Tweet Link]

djmikeyp 17 Mar 23 3.49pm
The football in the last years of Roy was so depressing that for the first time in my life I started feeling less passionately about the club. The Watford experience shows what might happen if he returns. Vieira always came across as an intelligent man, although we will never all agree on his team selections. Nor will we agree on whether the results would have improved once we start playing the lesser teams. My view is that they would. It is sad that our fate might ultimately be decided by the fact that our strikers have failed so dismally.

djmikeyp

17 Mar 23 3.49pm

The football in the last years of Roy was so depressing that for the first time in my life I started feeling less passionately about the club. The Watford experience shows what might happen if he returns. Vieira always came across as an intelligent man, although we will never all agree on his team selections. Nor will we agree on whether the results would have improved once we start playing the lesser teams. My view is that they would. It is sad that our fate might ultimately be decided by the fact that our strikers have failed so dismally.

bootsy333 Manchester 17 Mar 23 3.59pm
I think Freedman should be ordered to the touchline from the office, not on a permanent basis, but for the next few games to manage. He knows the team perfectly. I think its a shame Steve didn't give Patrick the Arsenal game. Edited by bootsy333 (17 Mar 2023 4.00pm)

bootsy333

Manchester 17 Mar 23 3.59pm

I think Freedman should be ordered to the touchline from the office, not on a permanent basis, but for the next few games to manage. He knows the team perfectly. I think its a shame Steve didn't give Patrick the Arsenal game.

Edited by bootsy333 (17 Mar 2023 4.00pm)

Leecpfc Praying for love in a lapdance... 17 Mar 23 4.03pm
I’d love us to get Rafa Raised on a diet of broken biscuits

Leecpfc

Praying for love in a lapdance... 17 Mar 23 4.03pm

I’d love us to get Rafa

Raised on a diet of broken biscuits

Booted Eagle Bristol 17 Mar 23 4.13pm
Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer Surely not Roy!. I was a huge supporter of his when most folk on here were putting the knife in, but he has had his time. We need fresh ideas and a strong personality who can read the riot act to namby-pampy footballers. But please not Lampard or Gerrard, their past experiences are less than encouraging. Personally I like the idea of Shaun Derry coming in for the rest of the season at least. If we are going stop gap then he might be in with a shout but think it would be more likely an internal appointment in Paddy and Dougie etc. If we are looking for a longer appointment then obviously they must be willing to manage in the Championship should we be relegated. Think this would preclude most of the choices touted here. Personally think we could be looking at the former than the latter. Knows the players we have to get us out of this mess and time is not on our side. Whoever comes in, let's hope they can get a tune out of the squad, particularly in attack. Edited by Booted Eagle (17 Mar 2023 4.21pm) “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

Booted Eagle

Bristol 17 Mar 23 4.13pm

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Surely not Roy!. I was a huge supporter of his when most folk on here were putting the knife in, but he has had his time.

We need fresh ideas and a strong personality who can read the riot act to namby-pampy footballers.

But please not Lampard or Gerrard, their past experiences are less than encouraging. Personally I like the idea of Shaun Derry coming in for the rest of the season at least.

If we are going stop gap then he might be in with a shout but think it would be more likely an internal appointment in Paddy and Dougie etc. If we are looking for a longer appointment then obviously they must be willing to manage in the Championship should we be relegated. Think this would preclude most of the choices touted here. Personally think we could be looking at the former than the latter. Knows the players we have to get us out of this mess and time is not on our side. Whoever comes in, let's hope they can get a tune out of the squad, particularly in attack.

Edited by Booted Eagle (17 Mar 2023 4.21pm)

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

kevlee born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 17 Mar 23 4.17pm
I think we need Paul Daniels.... Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

kevlee

born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 17 Mar 23 4.17pm

I think we need Paul Daniels....

Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

Spiderman Horsham 17 Mar 23 4.19pm
Originally posted by 55 years a fan Yeah that would be interesting. The players could shaft her just like they have PV I suspect no female manager would be the least bit interested in being shafted by a male player. Apologies for any sexist/homophobic connotations but I really am rather peed off today

Spiderman

Horsham 17 Mar 23 4.19pm

Originally posted by 55 years a fan

Yeah that would be interesting. The players could shaft her just like they have PV

I suspect no female manager would be the least bit interested in being shafted by a male player.
Apologies for any sexist/homophobic connotations but I really am rather peed off today

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