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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Dec 19 10.51am

Originally posted by berlinpalace

Another busy day spreading lies and disinformation SS, the Party will be very pleased with you there might be a medal in it.
Actually, Berlin has traditionally been rather left wing, that’s why Hitler hated it and joked about the allied bombing. You probably wouldn’t like it either.

That is rich coming from team Lefty.

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 10 Dec 19 11.42am

Whilst yesterday's trick of putting the child on the floor in the hospital before photographing him to damage the Tories has been counterbalanced by a private conversation with a leading Labour Party Shadow Cabinet member slating Corbyn and Labour's chances of winning the election being taped and released to the media today.

I'm not only old but old fashioned too and I really don't like the dirty tricks that seem to be part and parcel of modern day politics, no matter which side is doing them

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Dec 19 11.43am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Whilst yesterday's trick of putting the child on the floor in the hospital before photographing him to damage the Tories has been counterbalanced by a private conversation with a leading Labour Party Shadow Cabinet member slating Corbyn and Labour's chances of winning the election being taped and released to the media today.

I'm not only old but old fashioned too and I really don't like the dirty tricks that seem to be part and parcel of modern day politics, no matter which side is doing them

Agreed.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 10 Dec 19 11.43am

Originally posted by berlinpalace

Another busy day spreading lies and disinformation

No need for the Tories to spread alleged lies and disinformation when Jon Ashworth will happily rubbish his own party for them

 

EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 10 Dec 19 11.59am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Whilst yesterday's trick of putting the child on the floor in the hospital before photographing him to damage the Tories has been counterbalanced by a private conversation with a leading Labour Party Shadow Cabinet member slating Corbyn and Labour's chances of winning the election being taped and released to the media today.

I'm not only old but old fashioned too and I really don't like the dirty tricks that seem to be part and parcel of modern day politics, no matter which side is doing them

Sorry, how was it a trick?

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 10 Dec 19 12.00pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

No need for the Tories to spread alleged lies and disinformation when Jon Ashworth will happily rubbish his own party for them

Why did so many of them spread the story of Hancock’s advisor being punched yesterday then?

No need for the Tories to spread disinformation - farcical.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 10 Dec 19 12.31pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Sorry, how was it a trick?

I still find it hard to believe they couldn’t find a bed.

I’ve been in hospital quite a bit lately and it’s all been very good apart from one experience at Epsom whereby the nurse said she couldn’t turn the fan above my mother off and then told her to stop shivering so she could monitor her heart, only for an English nurse (true) to turn it off as soon as she took over shift possibly. Oh and a doctor in East Surrey telling off a nurse for not doing hat she should’ve done whilst she was sat in a small room where she does basic tests before consultations. The nurse replied ‘Can’t you do it?’ The doctor told her to do her job and stop being so lazy. I overheard this waiting in the corridor for my consultation. This was after the nurse couldn’t be bothered to give me a full sentence at the end of my basic blood pressure and heart tests. I asked her to clarify what she said but didn’t get a reply.

I’ve had a heart operation recently that wouldn’t have been possible I don’t know how many years ago and when it eventually killed me or cut my physical ability down to a fraction of today I don’t know. I was given 10 days notice and took the appointment time someone probably turned down because it interfered with buying Christmas shyte made of plastic. Whilst talking to the brilliant staff in the ward at Brighton hospital where I had the procedure they told me how people take the p1ss.

Anyway, one thing that needs improving and possibly how this happened is 1) people going to A&E when they don’t need to and 2) not enough appointments available at GP surgeries. Yes I’m going to include population growth here as well as underfunding which is going to addressed. Late perhaps, yes, but coming nonetheless.

A ward or many pictures of children like that and I’ll be horrified, but one? No. It probably could have been avoided and I haven’t heard how long it was actually the case anyway.

Get this election over with and begin Brexit negotiations. Had enough of who is worse than who bollox. Get stuff moving and the loser in this election can step aside for.... hooray.... John Macdonnell to save us.


Edited by Rudi Hedman (10 Dec 2019 12.38pm)

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 10 Dec 19 12.40pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I still find it hard to believe they couldn’t find a bed.

I’ve been in hospital quite a bit lately and it’s all been very good apart from one experience at Epsom whereby the nurse said she couldn’t turn the fan above my mother off and then told her to stop shivering so she could monitor her heart, only for an English nurse (true) to turn it off as soon as she took over shift possibly. Oh and a doctor in East Surrey telling off a nurse for not doing hat she should’ve done whilst she was sat in a small room where she does basic tests before consultations. The nurse replied ‘Can’t you do it?’ The doctor told her to do her job and stop being so lazy. This was after the nurse couldn’t be bothered to give me a full sentence at the end of my basic blood pressure and heart tests.

I’ve had a heart operation recently that wouldn’t have been possible I don’t know how many years ago and when it eventually killed me or cut my physical ability down to a fraction of today I don’t know. I was given 10 days notice and took the appointment time someone probably turned down because it interfered with buying Christmas shyte made of plastic. Whilst talking to the brilliant staff in the ward at Brighton hospital where I had the procedure they told me how people take the p1ss.

Anyway, one thing that needs improving and possibly how this happened is 1) people going to A&E when they don’t need to and 2) not enough appointments available at GP surgeries. Yes I’m going to include population growth here as well as underfunding which is going to addressed. Late perhaps, yes, but coming nonetheless.

A ward or many pictures of children like that and I’ll be horrified, but one? No. It probably could have been avoided and I haven’t heard how long it was actually the case anyway.

Get this election over with and begin Brexit negotiations. Had enough of who is worse than who bollox. Get stuff moving and the loser in this election can step aside for.... hooray.... John Macdonnell to save us.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (10 Dec 2019 12.33pm)

The hospital itself, the Chief Medical Officer and the Chief Executive have all confirmed the story to be true.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 10 Dec 19 12.42pm

In A&E in East Surrey in February and I bet over half the people didnt need to be in there. A good few of them didn’t or couldn’t speak English, over the usual amount of supporting relatives there for what looked like people with not much distress. Accident and Emergency now means A bit concerned’ or ‘Appointment times at GP’s don’t fit with our schedule’.

1 hour wait between seeing each person of several and I was out of there. No complaints but I didn’t see much pain or distress in there.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (10 Dec 2019 12.44pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 10 Dec 19 12.48pm

Originally posted by berlinpalace

Another busy day spreading lies and disinformation SS, the Party will be very pleased with you there might be a medal in it.
Actually, Berlin has traditionally been rather left wing, that’s why Hitler hated it and joked about the allied bombing. You probably wouldn’t like it either.

I guess the socialist part of the 'National Socialist Party' kind of just passed you by then.

Hitler implemented left wing policies at the time like pensions, national childcare, national healthcare and high tax on the wealthy....but the services were just for Germans.

Socialists and nationalists weren't mutually exclusive back then.

Indeed, anyone who knows anything about nationalism knows that it branches into right and left versions. But the left of course think everyone's a Nazi because that's convenient for them.....it's ignorance from many but a form of dishonesty from those with a brain.

Hitler's horrific crimes make it easy to do and he had to be defeated.


Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2019 1.08pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 10 Dec 19 12.57pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

The hospital itself, the Chief Medical Officer and the Chief Executive have all confirmed the story to be true.

The story is that the child had to be treated on the floor.

That is untrue, it was a staged and politicised action.

The child was deliberately placed on the floor for the photo. Where is the nurse who has stated she had to use the floor for treatment?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards berlinpalace Flag berlin 10 Dec 19 1.06pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I guess the socialist part of the 'National Socialist Party' kind of just passed you by then.

Hitler implemented left wing policies at the time like pensions, national childcare, national healthcare and high tax on the wealthy.

Socialists and nationalists weren't mutually exclusive back then.

A ‘socialism’ on purely racial grounds, the nationalism was the important part and the socialist bit was tacked on to try and appeal to sections of the workers. There’s always a significant proportion who fall for that bulls***.
‘To increase its appeal to larger segments of the population, on the same day as Hitler's Hofbräuhaus speech on 24 February 1920, the DAP changed its name to the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei ("National Socialist German Workers' Party", or Nazi Party).[51][52] The word "Socialist" was added by the party's executive committee, over Hitler's objections, in order to help appeal to left-wing workers.[53]’

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 10 Dec 19 1.13pm

Originally posted by berlinpalace

A ‘socialism’ on purely racial grounds, the nationalism was the important part and the socialist bit was tacked on to try and appeal to sections of the workers. There’s always a significant proportion who fall for that bulls***.
‘To increase its appeal to larger segments of the population, on the same day as Hitler's Hofbräuhaus speech on 24 February 1920, the DAP changed its name to the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei ("National Socialist German Workers' Party", or Nazi Party).[51][52] The word "Socialist" was added by the party's executive committee, over Hitler's objections, in order to help appeal to left-wing workers.[53]’

So Hitler was never hated the rich and bourgeoisie in ‘30s Germany then?

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 10 Dec 19 1.13pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The story is that the child had to be treated on the floor.

That is untrue, it was a staged and politicised action.

The child was deliberately placed on the floor for the photo. Where is the nurse who has stated she had to use the floor for treatment?

No, the story is that they didn’t have a bed for him.

How do you you know the child was placed on the floor for the photo? Did a social media bot tell you that one as well?

 

Stirlingsays Flag 10 Dec 19 1.14pm

Originally posted by berlinpalace

A ‘socialism’ on purely racial grounds, the nationalism was the important part and the socialist bit was tacked on to try and appeal to sections of the workers. There’s always a significant proportion who fall for that bulls***.
‘To increase its appeal to larger segments of the population, on the same day as Hitler's Hofbräuhaus speech on 24 February 1920, the DAP changed its name to the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei ("National Socialist German Workers' Party", or Nazi Party).[51][52] The word "Socialist" was added by the party's executive committee, over Hitler's objections, in order to help appeal to left-wing workers.[53]’

This is the intellectually dishonest part.

There is no evidence that these policies weren't believed in and I repeat. These are policies that were implemented, not just talked about to gain power. I find it hard to believe that Hitler didn't agree with higher services for Germans.

Indeed, the meanings given to socialist and nationalist were different back then and people like yourself can't accept that.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2019 1.15pm)

 


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Painter Flag Croydon 10 Dec 19 1.15pm

The evening news will be slightly more pallet able tonight. As a distraction from all the promises of giveaways that will never happen, Ms Swinson is resorting to wearing low plunging neckline to show off her considerable appendage.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 10 Dec 19 1.16pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

No, the story is that they didn’t have a bed for him.

How do you you know the child was placed on the floor for the photo? Did a social media bot tell you that one as well?

One child on the floor. What about the others? There must’ve been others, no?

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Dec 19 1.21pm

I see Labour's Jonathon Ashworth is using the Justin Fashanu* defence to explain his criticism of the "Dear Leader".

""Mr Ashworth says he was trying to "lull" his friend who was a Conservative activist "into a false sense of security" ahead of polling day. ""

* Fashanu was caught in a newspaper sting relating to match fixing he successfully defended himself in court and was cleared of all charges and is completely innocent. His defence was that he agree to dicuss match fixing with the undercover journalists as he wanted to see who was involved and how far it went before he reported them to the authorities.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 10 Dec 19 1.23pm

Had to laugh at the end of another pointless debate on BBC1 last night. After an hour of interrupting everyone, the annoying Labour mp. Angela Rayner took her opportunity on Farage. Someone accused Farage of using immigration for the reason he was late to a Brexit party conference via the M4. He quite rightly replied about how many millions of more people while Angela Rayner just kept scowling from a foot away into his face of how disgusting he is. Farage just kept quoting the numbers and holding his hands up and asking her if she’d acknowledge it with a few ‘There we are’ quotes.

The whole thing can’t end soon enough. Get on with what is voted for, stop interrupting and blocking it all so we can move on and focus on British citizens and not allowing the whole world to vote on what’s best for Britain.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 10 Dec 19 1.23pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

No, the story is that they didn’t have a bed for him.

How do you you know the child was placed on the floor for the photo? Did a social media bot tell you that one as well?

Mmmm....that's a bit paranoid Dan.

They had a chair and there were beds available in the hospital. I'm hearing that this child went home the same day.

Political capital being made off of a photo three days before an election.....Not buying it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2019 1.24pm)

 


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