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|  cryrst  The garden of England 29 Jun 24 11.08am |    | 
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| Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle 
 The person involved has denied it and has apologised. We’ll see but it misses the point doesn’t it? Even if it turns out he was a stooge what he said wasn’t denied or decried by the others there. That is the point. These are the type of views associated with the sort of people attracted to Reform. Not all of them, but enough to be both worrying and embarrassing causing immediate denials and distancing. Reform have a very dodgy slate of candidates, so we can be extremely grateful we still have first past the post as our system, and very few will be. Did you listen to what he said about immigration? Whether it is legal is beside the point. The population has increased massively with no infrastructure increase. To agree with facts doesn’t make you racist ! 
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|  Badger11  Beckenham 29 Jun 24 12.30pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by steeleye20 
 Showing on C4 on Monday July 1st at 21:00. 'Skint: The Truth About Britain's Broken Economy'. Could be provocative - even mentioning the B word. 
 Good timing 3 days before the election. 
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|  eaglesdare  29 Jun 24 2.08pm |    | 
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| BBC seem to be doing everything to try and save their licence fee by stacking the audience with looney left wingers and BBC employee's. Farage still made a show of them. 
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|  eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 29 Jun 24 2.30pm |      | 
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| Originally posted by eaglesdare 
 BBC seem to be doing everything to try and save their licence fee by stacking the audience with looney left wingers and BBC employee's. Farage still made a show of them. Yup, a bbc director & a muslim activist among others. Poor old liebore & tories can only dream of such publicity. #defundthebbc 
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|  Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 29 Jun 24 2.45pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by cryrst 
 Did you listen to what he said about immigration? Whether it is legal is beside the point. The population has increased massively with no infrastructure increase. To agree with facts doesn’t make you racist ! You can pick a few words out of any set of remarks and can present them as facts! It’s the whole which matters and their context. 
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|  Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 29 Jun 24 2.51pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by Matov 
 If this 'expose' of Reform is a channel 4 stitch up then it shows they are panicked by the impact Reform is having. But it's clumsy. This guy being an actor with a website proclaiming he does undercover filming? Makes me think they might have been trying this for a while with genuine Reform campaigners and not got the result they were after. So they have taken risks. Panicked is the wrong word. Motivated is more accurate. Motivated to scratch away the Farage veneer and expose the kind of people attracted to it. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (29 Jun 2024 2.52pm) 
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|  eaglesdare  29 Jun 24 2.54pm |    | 
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| Fantastic response by Mr Farage. Even more glad I voted for reform. 
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|  Behind Enemy Lines  Sussex 29 Jun 24 3.04pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by eaglesdare 
 Fantastic response by Mr Farage. Even more glad I voted for reform. He is a great orator. Compare his response to that of Biden’s. You can always understand Farage’s reply; Biden just takes random words from his memory bank and tries to make a sentence, often with more pauses and hesitation than actual words. You may not agree with Farage’s views but if so, you have to ask why so many people seem to agree with him. 
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|  eaglesdare  29 Jun 24 3.06pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines 
 He is a great orator. Compare his response to that of Biden’s. You can always understand Farage’s reply; Biden just takes random words from his memory bank and tries to make a sentence, often with more pauses and hesitation than actual words. You may not agree with Farage’s views but if so, you have to ask why so many people seem to agree with him. Wouldn't surprise me if sleepy Joe has an ear piece and he tries say what's being fed into his ear. It looked that way at times during questions with trump. 
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|  silvertop  Portishead 29 Jun 24 4.37pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by Matov 
 If this 'expose' of Reform is a channel 4 stitch up then it shows they are panicked by the impact Reform is having. But it's clumsy. This guy being an actor with a website proclaiming he does undercover filming? Makes me think they might have been trying this for a while with genuine Reform campaigners and not got the result they were after. So they have taken risks. . Do you guys actually believe this conspiratorial nonsense? Fact Ch4 make the BBC look right wing. Fact they have a lefty agenda. Fact they targeted Reform as their views differ from Ch4. No such sting for the Greens. However Those feck wits didn't have a gun to their heads. And if they left the bank vault open and I took the cash I am still a theif. Ch4 led the horse to water and boy did it drink. No denials from the party only condemnation and distancing. You dismiss this as a stitch up if it gives you comfort; but this sets the bar as barrel scrapings for Reform as those not committed to this party see them. 
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|  Badger11  Beckenham 29 Jun 24 4.50pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by silvertop 
 Do you guys actually believe this conspiratorial nonsense? Fact Ch4 make the BBC look right wing. Fact they have a lefty agenda. Fact they targeted Reform as their views differ from Ch4. No such sting for the Greens. However Those feck wits didn't have a gun to their heads. And if they left the bank vault open and I took the cash I am still a theif. Ch4 led the horse to water and boy did it drink. No denials from the party only condemnation and distancing. You dismiss this as a stitch up if it gives you comfort; but this sets the bar as barrel scrapings for Reform as those not committed to this party see them. Not sure I believe the C4 conspiracy bit but the whole saga is suspicious. The actor has given an interview and seems to be milking it for all its worth. Maybe he is a lefty who decided to infiltrate and destroy Reform whilst promoting his own career. He does after all say he is an undercover actor. Or maybe he is what he appears someone who hates black people. It was just lucky! that C4 stumbled over him. Either way he is only a leaflet dropper and clearly his views are not those of Reform. My neighbour is a Labour supporter but on the hard left if the BBC interviewed her Starmer would have a heart attack. 
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|  cryrst  The garden of England 29 Jun 24 5.02pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle 
 You can pick a few words out of any set of remarks and can present them as facts! It’s the whole which matters and their context. Why don’t you find out the facts then and make Farage and my comments wrong ! 
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