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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 22 Nov 19 11.41pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by W12


Both myself and my wife pay a ridiclous amount of tax (she also employs 12 people who do the same) and we get pretty much nothing back for it. I pay for school for my kids and pay for all my own social/medical care other than A&E.

For this we get a goverment who don't do what we vote for, a politicised police and judicioury working agsinst my interests and a government that interferes in my life at every opportunity.

Most of my money goes on social care for others and mostly able bodied people that don't pay into the system.

Then when I want to spend the little we have left it gets taxed again.

We should get taxed much less and not more and if you think otherwise you should go and **** yourself.


Edited by W12 (22 Nov 2019 1.57pm)

This is a little one eyed. It also seems like you’re saying we work hard and earn massive amounts of money so therefore we should retain it all. Being a top earner myself, this sort of attitude really f***s me off. Mental

These are assumptions, but why not...

‘Ridiculous amount of tax’ is relative. Yes if you’re earning 10m a year, you’ll be paying more tax than most people earn over several decades. Non starter. You knew the rules when you decided to move to an insanely expensive part of London and build your businesses.

From the limited amount of information you provide, it doesn’t really sound like you’re on the breadline.

• X2 kids in an inner city private school - 20/30k each per year

• Both own your own businesses and use dividend as salary, likely pay close to the minimum personal salary, get paid in dividends, with the majority charged at the higher rate of tax (like myself)

• employing 12 people indicates a reasonable turnover, for both businesses combined let’s say minimum 3-5m a year

• for arguments sake, combined personal salaries/dividends of 3-400k

• own a property in w12, 1-2 million minimum

Taking into account corporation tax and dividend tax on those figures, even if they’re a bit less than that you’re hardly left with nothing. Or should I say, ‘the little we have left’. Pull the other one.

Especially when any perceived lack of disposable is your own choice - choosing to spend 40-60k on your kids education, private healthcare, whilst living in W12 and no doubt the lifestyle/keeping up appearances nonsense that accompanies that. It almost sounds like you want some sort of tax credits for doing so. Incredible.

Your combined disposable monthly income alone after tax is most likely close to or more than the average UK wage of a paramedic.

Yeah you pay more tax, as do I as a top rate earner and there’s a good reason for that. Could the systems that distribute it back Be better? f*** yes. Do I resort to lazy stereotypes when discussing how said money gets spent? No. Could the government do more to prevent people from gaming the system? Yes. Do the majority of people on benefits game the system? No.

‘We get nothing back for it’. You’re not supposed to. Especially when you’re earning that much. Don’t like it? Move elsewhere to a more corrupt society so you can game the system, pay less tax and have ethically questionable political influence to satisfy your needs.

 


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Deleted11 22 Nov 19 11.43pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm currently listening to 'Fear' by Bob Woodward. If you ignore the bias it's obvious that Trump can be criticised for many personal failings....As a next door neighbour you'd probably prefer Obama....as long as he promised not to have BLM around.

However, he's been great for their economy....I think mainly because, rightly or wrongly business trust him.

The number of people on more than one job has always been a small minority of people anyway....I think it stands at 5.1 percent and has hovered around that for many years.

I agree with you about the decline of the one wage family. However, I don't think that's all down to evil capitalists. Modern societies have far higher expectations and far more stuff than those of the past.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Nov 2019 9.29pm)

I think business trusting him isn't exactly right. Big business definitely, as they are loving the low interedt rates so they can borrow loads of money, buy their own stock, raising the share price. So, the Dow is up but the economy not so much.

 

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Deleted11 22 Nov 19 11.47pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

This is a little one eyed. It also seems like you’re saying we work hard and earn massive amounts of money so therefore we should retain it all. Being a top earner myself, this sort of attitude really f***s me off. Mental

These are assumptions, but why not...

‘Ridiculous amount of tax’ is relative. Yes if you’re earning 10m a year, you’ll be paying more tax than most people earn over several decades. Non starter. You knew the rules when you decided to move to an insanely expensive part of London and build your businesses.

From the limited amount of information you provide, it doesn’t really sound like you’re on the breadline.

• X2 kids in an inner city private school - 20/30k each per year

• Both own your own businesses and use dividend as salary, likely pay close to the minimum personal salary, get paid in dividends, with the majority charged at the higher rate of tax (like myself)

• employing 12 people indicates a reasonable turnover, for both businesses combined let’s say minimum 3-5m a year

• for arguments sake, combined personal salaries/dividends of 3-400k

• own a property in w12, 1-2 million minimum

Taking into account corporation tax and dividend tax on those figures, even if they’re a bit less than that you’re hardly left with nothing. Or should I say, ‘the little we have left’. Pull the other one.

Especially when any perceived lack of disposable is your own choice - choosing to spend 40-60k on your kids education, private healthcare, whilst living in W12 and no doubt the lifestyle/keeping up appearances nonsense that accompanies that. It almost sounds like you want some sort of tax credits for doing so. Incredible.

Your combined disposable monthly income alone after tax is most likely close to or more than the average UK wage of a paramedic.

Yeah you pay more tax, as do I as a top rate earner and there’s a good reason for that. Could the systems that distribute it back Be better? f*** yes. Do I resort to lazy stereotypes when discussing how said money gets spent? No. Could the government do more to prevent people from gaming the system? Yes. Do the majority of people on benefits game the system? No.

‘We get nothing back for it’. You’re not supposed to. Especially when you’re earning that much. Don’t like it? Move elsewhere to a more corrupt society so you can game the system, pay less tax and have ethically questionable political influence to satisfy your needs.

Or..... I would have his accounts audited, because if he is short on money, his accountant is fiddling

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 22 Nov 19 11.55pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Jway89

I think business trusting him isn't exactly right. Big business definitely, as they are loving the low interedt rates so they can borrow loads of money, buy their own stock, raising the share price. So, the Dow is up but the economy not so much.

It's all Beer & Skittles, my business is at it's best in probably 6/7 years.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 23 Nov 19 6.52am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Can we keep this thread to the UK General Election please

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 23 Nov 19 7.53am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Can we keep this thread to the UK General Election please

True, it probably should be on the Trump thread...apologies.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 23 Nov 19 8.23am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

I didn't watch the Election special last night but apparently President Elect Jo Swinson didn't do herself any favours

 

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I didn't watch the Election special last night but apparently President Elect Jo Swinson didn't do herself any favours

Did you delete my post on here?

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Nov 19 10.46am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

It's the BBC

It's really time to dump the licence fee and change the tax payer funded luvvie left

It is quite shocking that a publicly funded broadcaster is allowed to show such blatant political bias.
The audience for last nights questions were clearly mostly Labour and some seem to have been sent straight from Labour campaign HQ. The PM was once again interrupted far more often than the others.

The other channels are just as bad but the BBC should be above all that.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Nov 19 10.49am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I didn't watch the Election special last night but apparently President Elect Jo Swinson didn't do herself any favours

I started to feel sorry for her. She was embarrassing.

Boris wasn't impressive but he got stitched up good and proper by the comrades at the BBC.

 

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View sickboy's Profile sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 23 Nov 19 12.21pm Send a Private Message to sickboy Add sickboy as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I started to feel sorry for her. She was embarrassing.

Boris wasn't impressive but he got stitched up good and proper by the comrades at the BBC.

Don't know why any of them bother. Very little to gain for any of them.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 23 Nov 19 12.54pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I didn't watch the Election special last night but apparently President Elect Jo Swinson didn't do herself any favours

She made it into my special bank though.

 

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