Really? If you want to believe that, that is your perogative
So you think it is ok for the EU to dictate to the British people who we can have as a leader of a Political Party?

For me the issue is why would a British leader accept that? I don't blame the EU at all for this current farce. They are only trying to protect their downside which is absolutely horrendous because if we leave with no deal, the UK is going to boom. And increase the pressure as others try to break away.

All of my ire is aimed at our political class for being so weak willed.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Boring. Doom Doom Doom. Project fear rolls on.

There was always going to be a dip caused by uncertainty and Remainers have been doing their best to make it worse by delaying Brexit.

I expected short term issues, but they are well worth it to rid ourselves of Brussels.

You don't seem to be able to think past next week.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Apr 2019 7.49pm)

So if you weigh up the pros and cons from an economic perspective and conclude that Brexit is not a good idea, that makes you a staunch remainer?

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

You could always tithe your wages into a fund for teachers and nurses.

I am really astounded that you can churn out this absolute rubbish day after day. It was only yesterday that you accused others of being narrow minded yet I doubt whether there is anyone posting anywhere on HOL that is as close minded as you, valiantly trying to defend your position with selected sound bites and ignoring any questions that you don't want to answer

The point I'm making is the suggestion that the Chancellor bases his economic outlook for Britain on his political leaning whereas I think he Simply looks at it that we would be poorer, GDP and growth would hurt us negatively, you only have to look at the latest IMF forecast that warns of a 2 year recession

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Edited by Pussay Patrol (10 Apr 2019 7.42am)

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Just chuck it on top of the recession that’s been going on since 2008.

The IMF aren't necessarily correct as very few of these forecasting outfits are. Every year the Office for Budget Responsibility gives it's forecasts for the coming year which the Chancellor bases his budget on.

The Chancellor always starts his budget speech by pointing out that the OBR were wrong in the previous year.

Even if we leave with no deal it won't take too long to sort out the major trade deals that we want as the framework is already there in the form of the existing EU trade deals.

The German economy is so weak that the German industrialists will be pushing Merkel to get the EU to co-operate and the French farmers and car makers will be doing the same to Macron.

In the interim many important imports will be tariff free and the European exporters won't be wanting to hold up their own production just to suit the unelected EU top brass who would rather kick the UK in the nuts than support their own members

Interesting wrangling currently going on in Europe. We often get caught up in the drama of our our own politicians and forget to consider what's going on in the rest of the world.

Ireland have said that they will never forgive any of the EU27 that triggers a no deal. Germany definitely don't want a no deal. France, being the french, are willing to let the whole thing go to hell.

The EU don't want us involved in their elections. As we will inevitably cause loads of trouble.

A no deal could split the EU, as could allowing us into their elections. Europe has loads of problems at the moment and Brexit is overshaddowing them all.

What really strikes me as strange is that since the referendum, they haven't even considered that they might be doing something wrong or any kind of reform. Surely, it's the first thing any organisation would do following a catastrophic event.... they have introduced a law on memes though, everyone's top priority.