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 Stirlingsays  11 Apr 19 11.42am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
This morning I received a letter from Bromley Council requesting my assistance in the forth coming European Elections. I see the establishment didn't waste much time. I will be writing to the council to tell them to stick their election roles into the newly photographed black hole. I have been a Poll Clerk for more than 20 years and have done every type of election multiple times without fear or favour. Yes I got paid but I felt it my democratic duty to my fellow citizens. This may sound silly to some of you but on the day I was full of patriotic pride that in our country people of all sorts vote with their kids and whilst out walking their dogs etc. You don't need a policemen at the polling station keeping order. Neither do soldiers come to your home inviting you to vote. On the whole must people are cheerful, very polite to us election officials, slightly cynical and I haven't a clue how they voted which is how it should be. For me that has all changed I know it's not the council's fault but I refuse to take part in elections that are a sham when a Parliament has disgraced itself by ignoring the will of the people. If I belonged to a political party I would down tools as many Tory activists are doing. As for voting I haven't decided yet. Democracy in this country is a national disgrace. Yep, trust that democracy is a reflection of a majority of the public will has been damaged. There needs to be serious payback.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Midlands Eagle 11 Apr 19 11.47am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
It must be different where you live as there aren't any polling stations in our local parks
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Apr 19 11.54am |
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That town crier outside Parliament near the press areas is getting on my fvcking nerves now.
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| Stirlingsays 11 Apr 19 12.12pm |
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Originally posted by rob1969
Regarding the European Parliament election I for one will either abstain or spoil my ballet paper with some suitable slogan. I fully understand the sentiment but that's what they want to hear. It just hands more power to them.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| dannyboy1978 11 Apr 19 12.15pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I find it neither bigoted nor racist although I disagree with what he said as there are quite a few females and non whites in the Tory Government including the first Asian minister in one of the big three posts. At least Mrs May selects her team on merit and not because they are ex shag buddies If the left want to get upset by a dark chocolate Easter bunny ill certainly be upset by being called pale and stale Can't have it both ways.
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| Spiderman Horsham 11 Apr 19 12.22pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
This is confusing Your first link appears to show the idea that Heath lied about the progressive effects of political union is in fact misinformation. The second link is not facts, simply hearsay. My father was a small business owner at the time and hugely enthusiastic for joining the EEC. As were the majority of people. As was his perogative of course, at least my dad didn't throw his toys out of the pram and demand that the democratic vote be ignored! EEC was somewhat different to what we have now.
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| Spiderman Horsham 11 Apr 19 12.25pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Both Heath and Wilson were quite straight with the people and the people gave their whole-hearted consent. The real difference between now and then is that now the Brits are no longer nice people. You could go and join your buddy PP in Holland, I'm sure they are all nice people there
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| Midlands Eagle 11 Apr 19 12.32pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Can't have it both ways. Google the term and you'll find that it's in fairly common useage
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Pussay Patrol  11 Apr 19 12.34pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
If the left want to get upset by a dark chocolate Easter bunny ill certainly be upset by being called pale and stale Can't have it both ways. Maybe sensible, mature, balanced people don't see it either way? And can make sound judgements on most things without political persuasion or media manipulation?
Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah |
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| steeleye20 Croydon 11 Apr 19 12.35pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
As was his perogative of course, at least my dad didn't throw his toys out of the pram and demand that the democratic vote be ignored! EEC was somewhat different to what we have now. The democratic vote could not be ignored because the people gave their whole-hearted consent. That is the difference, June 2016 was split down the middle, a recipe for disaster.
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| dannyboy1978 11 Apr 19 12.38pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Google the term and you'll find that it's in fairly common useage I find pale and stale offensive , respect my wishes man.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 11 Apr 19 12.53pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
It must be different where you live as there aren't any polling stations in our local parks Well I once did a poll station in Queensmead recreation park it was a porta cabin. I have done them all over the place and people do bring their dogs in, mostly behaved.
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| Maine Eagle USA 11 Apr 19 12.58pm |
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So, October 31st. A Brexit Halloween nightmare. Guess the talks with Corbyn havent quite paid dividends yet.
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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 Hrolf The Ganger 11 Apr 19 1.04pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Lets hope those issues arent you or someone you care about losing their livelihood. One man's project fear, is another man's actual fear - you should understand that point. Cant think past next week? Au contraire. I am thinking about decades of missed opportunities to live and work abroad and the long term impacts of massive reductions in jobs in the poorest areas of the country. I am aware that you like the glass half empty interpretation but you and I have no real idea how Brexit will work out in terms of the economy and therefore, in reality, we are left to choose sides based on wider ideological issues. You might prefer the Star Trek version of the future with a world government, no real nation states, and racial harmony but in reality that seems like a far less pleasant idea when you consider that before we ever get there (we won't) there will be a population crisis ultimately causing a breakdown of society and before that, decades of religious and cultural friction and a reduction in personal wealth created by freedom of movement and automation. We will also have no say on our futures since we will be reduced to corporate drones with no influence on a centralised government who feed us what they want us to know or believe. Captain Kirk would probably a low paid Asian who grew up in a Shanti town and the Enterprise would never leave dock because deep space travel will only done by robots built in China by other robots.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Apr 19 1.23pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Lets hope those issues arent you or someone you care about losing their livelihood. One man's project fear, is another man's actual fear - you should understand that point. Cant think past next week? Au contraire. I am thinking about decades of missed opportunities to live and work abroad and the long term impacts of massive reductions in jobs in the poorest areas of the country. On the other side there’s the development of having to move abroad for work in certain jobs or sectors.
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| Spiderman Horsham 11 Apr 19 1.42pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The democratic vote could not be ignored because the people gave their whole-hearted consent. That is the difference, June 2016 was split down the middle, a recipe for disaster. Not quite down the middle but what is a million or so between friends!
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Teddy Eagle  11 Apr 19 1.45pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I am thinking about decades of missed opportunities to live and work abroad and the long term impacts of massive reductions in jobs in the poorest areas of the country. There are an estimated 1.2m British nationals living in EU countries and 2.9m EU nationals living in Britain. Who is likely to be most affected?
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| Pussay Patrol 11 Apr 19 1.48pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
There are an estimated 1.2m British nationals living in EU countries and 2.9m EU nationals living in Britain. Who is likely to be most affected? It's a lose / lose situation
Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah |
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| Teddy Eagle 11 Apr 19 1.49pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The democratic vote could not be ignored because the people gave their whole-hearted consent. That is the difference, June 2016 was split down the middle, a recipe for disaster. The Delay vote was carried by one vote but that was sufficient.
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