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It's been about 30 pages since I last posted so thought I'd give you lucky lot my view!

Couple of points. I think he might just be coming here, my reasons

• We ARE a bigger club. AFCB are doing well, very well indeed. But that's part of the problem. If we were in their position, in our heads we are still playing below where we believe we belong. We believe that now. And we're a league above them!

• EH has a fantastic record. I can see peoples points that if he were to take over and we got relegated it would tarnish that. Granted it's a valid point. But.... IF, and it's still an IF, AFCB were to gain promotion, they would in all seriousness go down next year. They would probably go down quite badly too. EH has worked wonders there but the gulf between L1 and the championship is massive.  Football 'experts' claim the gap in quality between league 1&2 and the Championship is quite huge. Just take into consideration the players in this league. Mostly they have some prem experience. Through loans or previous teams. Is it worse to take over a team and get relegated or to go up and get spanked every odd week and go down badly? It could go the other way totally but it's an interesting thought.

• Also on potential. AFCB might go up, might not. If they did they will be looking next year to stay in the Championship. If he came here and kept us up, we're looking at a genuine push for promotion. Youngest ever prem manager maybe?

• The other thing I picked up on, and am amazed no one else has, is he said it's a question of head v heart. So he knows which is the right decision. That's decided, it's whether he can do it. But the bit I am amazed at is in his interview he says he LOVED working for this club. Now I'm no Derren Brown mind reader superstar, but I think simple logic would say your subconscious will be controlling you in an interview that's not pre scripted. Surely if you had no intention of leaving and you are staying, you would say I LOVE working for this club. Saying you loved working for this club and players etc, you're putting the club (subconsciously) in your past....

•We know EH is loved by the fans, but I can bet your bottom dollar SP has been on recently to here, maybe under a different alias, and shown EH the excitement with our fans. Maybe not made him look at the screens but taken quoted etc about how much chat there is. Would be good knowing he has the instant, and almost 100% backing of the new fans. Also a lot of AFCB fans saying although it will hurt, they won't hold it against him..

I might be totally wrong, but it's interesting.

 


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Quote money4nuffin at 09 Jan 2011 4.05am

It's been about 30 pages since I last posted so thought I'd give you lucky lot my view!

Couple of points. I think he might just be coming here, my reasons

• We ARE a bigger club. AFCB are doing well, very well indeed. But that's part of the problem. If we were in their position, in our heads we are still playing below where we believe we belong. We believe that now. And we're a league above them!

• EH has a fantastic record. I can see peoples points that if he were to take over and we got relegated it would tarnish that. Granted it's a valid point. But.... IF, and it's still an IF, AFCB were to gain promotion, they would in all seriousness go down next year. They would probably go down quite badly too. EH has worked wonders there but the gulf between L1 and the championship is massive.  Football 'experts' claim the gap in quality between league 1&2 and the Championship is quite huge. Just take into consideration the players in this league. Mostly they have some prem experience. Through loans or previous teams. Is it worse to take over a team and get relegated or to go up and get spanked every odd week and go down badly? It could go the other way totally but it's an interesting thought.

• Also on potential. AFCB might go up, might not. If they did they will be looking next year to stay in the Championship. If he came here and kept us up, we're looking at a genuine push for promotion. Youngest ever prem manager maybe?

• The other thing I picked up on, and am amazed no one else has, is he said it's a question of head v heart. So he knows which is the right decision. That's decided, it's whether he can do it. But the bit I am amazed at is in his interview he says he LOVED working for this club. Now I'm no Derren Brown mind reader superstar, but I think simple logic would say your subconscious will be controlling you in an interview that's not pre scripted. Surely if you had no intention of leaving and you are staying, you would say I LOVE working for this club. Saying you loved working for this club and players etc, you're putting the club (subconsciously) in your past....

•We know EH is loved by the fans, but I can bet your bottom dollar SP has been on recently to here, maybe under a different alias, and shown EH the excitement with our fans. Maybe not made him look at the screens but taken quoted etc about how much chat there is. Would be good knowing he has the instant, and almost 100% backing of the new fans. Also a lot of AFCB fans saying although it will hurt, they won't hold it against him..

I might be totally wrong, but it's interesting.


Gosh money that was all a tad cerebral wasn't it. Good luck to Howe if he comes though and we should know the answer in the next day or two.

Edited by james03 (09 Jan 2011 4.23am)

 


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Quote james03 at 09 Jan 2011 4.22am

Quote money4nuffin at 09 Jan 2011 4.05am

Gosh money that was all a tad cerebral wasn't it. Good luck to Howe if he comes though and we should know the answer in the next day or two.

Edited by james03 (09 Jan 2011 4.23am)

No point posting without giving it some thought! I do like your comments though James, haven't heard someone say "gosh" I'm a long time!!


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Quote sydtheeagle at 09 Jan 2011 12.58am

Quote scififan2001 at 09 Jan 2011 12.42am

He wont be coming to Palace. I'm normally right.

I think you may be right. To be honest, if I put my rose-tinted Palace spectacles to one side, if I was Howe I would take the club I truly loved up this year and then leave for a considerably better opportunity than ours in the summer. I have little doubt that a better-funded, "bigger" team will come calling if he has further success over the balance of this season. And really, if he's been offered the Palace job already but spent Saturday managing Bournemouth while we were simultaneously going out of the FA Cup, that tells me all I need to know about which way he's leaning.[/quote]

Sorry Syd but I just do not get this. He was here for an interview and, if the stories are true, was offered the job on Friday. Now I guess SP would have agreed to give him the weekend to think it over but even had he said yes on the spot he would not have been managing us yesterday for the Coventry game. He would have to return to Bornemouth, resign and say his goodbyes. At best he could have sat in the stands but what would be the benefit to us of that. I think you are slightly askew on your thinking this time.

Anyway if he is going to take the job then turning up at the beginning of the week and starting to get to know the squad, talking to Doog about what areas need strengthening urgently and preparing for the Swansea game is ideal.

 


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I've got alarm bells ringing in my head over this whole situation. (maybe I need to see a psychiatrist? or is this just a symptom of following Palace for over 30 years?)

Of course it would be a great coup for the club to get such a promising young manager, but all this 'should I/shouldn't I' pondering doesn't bode well for me.

What happens if he does take the job at Palace and, as expected, we continue to struggle early on? You know what it is like taking a new job: it is very easy to look back at what you had before with rose tinted glasses, especially if you're struggling to settle in at your new place, and the pressures are tenfold what you had previously - which they most undoubtedly will be.

Do we really need someone in charge who will carry around some residue of regret of what he's left behind in the midst of a massive relegation battle? Especially if Bournemouth continue to look like they'll gain promotion.

Just watched his post match interview, and to me it looks like he has made up his mind to come to us, mainly due to not getting on with Bournemouth's owners and probably feeling more in tune with Parish, but he is obviously finding it severley painful to wrench himself away from what he's built.

This has all the hallmarks of the Dave Bassett debacle back in 1984. We had just sacked Mullery and Bassett was the rising star very much like David Howe: taking 4th division Wimbledon all the way to the 2nd tier in 3 seasons. He had a similar battle with heart and head; took the Palace job; 4 days later realised he'd made a massive mistake and ran back to Wimbledon. Thankfully as it happens, as Ron Noades turned to Coppell.

Ironically, my gut feeling is that this is what we should be doing now: turning to Coppell. After all the upheavel of the last year, the main task has to be to steady the ship; get us sitting comfortably in mid-table and then, and only then, start taking risks with young, promising lower league managers.

People underestimate the impact administration can have on a club. I felt this when we exited admin in July, and that is why I wanted the safe and knowing hands of Coppell back then, just to cradle us through to calmer waters. This is something Coppell himself realised when we came out of administration the first time back in 2000, and the reason Simon Jordan thought he was far too negative to take Palace forward. I think our last gasp survival that following season bore out Coppell's fears.

Don't get me wrong: i'm as excited as everyone to be linked with such an up and coming managerial prospect as Howe. Unfortunately, I just don't think it is good to start a new job with a heavy heart.

As a Palace fan, i'm packing his bags for him; as a friend I would be telling him to stay put.

Edited by Bubbs (09 Jan 2011 6.57am)

 


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Apologies if this has been covered already but has anyone given any thought to what might happen to Dougie's role as and when we appoint a new manager? As we know most successful manager's are reliant on their back room team so it is likely that if we are lucky enough to secure Howe's services he will want to bring in his own assistant. If so where does that leave DF? Thoughts?

 

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Yeah I was thinking about The Dougie situation last night and I would have thought by the way Eddie Howe seems to be that he would want his own staff, if it is going to be a hard enough wrench to leave surely he will feel happier with his own around, but it would be such a shame for Dougie if this does happen.

 


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maxipalace Flag in a box 09 Jan 11 9.21am

Quote Bubbs at 09 Jan 2011 6.40am

I've got alarm bells ringing in my head over this whole situation. (maybe I need to see a psychiatrist? or is this just a symptom of following Palace for over 30 years?)

Of course it would be a great coup for the club to get such a promising young manager, but all this 'should I/shouldn't I' pondering doesn't bode well for me.

What happens if he does take the job at Palace and, as expected, we continue to struggle early on? You know what it is like taking a new job: it is very easy to look back at what you had before with rose tinted glasses, especially if you're struggling to settle in at your new place, and the pressures are tenfold what you had previously - which they most undoubtedly will be.

Do we really need someone in charge who will carry around some residue of regret of what he's left behind in the midst of a massive relegation battle? Especially if Bournemouth continue to look like they'll gain promotion.

Just watched his post match interview, and to me it looks like he has made up his mind to come to us, mainly due to not getting on with Bournemouth's owners and probably feeling more in tune with Parish, but he is obviously finding it severley painful to wrench himself away from what he's built.

This has all the hallmarks of the Dave Bassett debacle back in 1984. We had just sacked Mullery and Bassett was the rising star very much like David Howe: taking 4th division Wimbledon all the way to the 2nd tier in 3 seasons. He had a similar battle with heart and head; took the Palace job; 4 days later realised he'd made a massive mistake and ran back to Wimbledon. Thankfully as it happens, as Ron Noades turned to Coppell.

Ironically, my gut feeling is that this is what we should be doing now: turning to Coppell. After all the upheavel of the last year, the main task has to be to steady the ship; get us sitting comfortably in mid-table and then, and only then, start taking risks with young, promising lower league managers.

People underestimate the impact administration can have on a club. I felt this when we exited admin in July, and that is why I wanted the safe and knowing hands of Coppell back then, just to cradle us through to calmer waters. This is something Coppell himself realised when we came out of administration the first time back in 2000, and the reason Simon Jordan thought he was far too negative to take Palace forward. I think our last gasp survival that following season bore out Coppell's fears.

Don't get me wrong: i'm as excited as everyone to be linked with such an up and coming managerial prospect as Howe. Unfortunately, I just don't think it is good to start a new job with a heavy heart.

As a Palace fan, i'm packing his bags for him; as a friend I would be telling him to stay put.

Edited by Bubbs (09 Jan 2011 6.57am)


well said, bubbs

 

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Morning all. There is another factor you haven't considered and it's all to do with our 'beloved' chairman.

He has given Eddie permission to talk to Palace. He has also talked to Charlton & Burnley. Another club, believed to be Ipswich are also very interested.

He will be released to the club that offers the highest compensation package if he decides to go at all and it now looks like a bidding war is starting to take place. Will that be Palace?

I expect him to go, but hope he sees this season out as we're on the verge of something with the group of players we have. If we go up, great, if we don't his stock won't have been damaged and there will be plenty of opportunities for him in the summer.

 

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Quote Bubbs at 09 Jan 2011 6.40am

I've got alarm bells ringing in my head over this whole situation. (maybe I need to see a psychiatrist? or is this just a symptom of following Palace for over 30 years?)

Of course it would be a great coup for the club to get such a promising young manager, but all this 'should I/shouldn't I' pondering doesn't bode well for me.

What happens if he does take the job at Palace and, as expected, we continue to struggle early on? You know what it is like taking a new job: it is very easy to look back at what you had before with rose tinted glasses, especially if you're struggling to settle in at your new place, and the pressures are tenfold what you had previously - which they most undoubtedly will be.

Do we really need someone in charge who will carry around some residue of regret of what he's left behind in the midst of a massive relegation battle? Especially if Bournemouth continue to look like they'll gain promotion.

Just watched his post match interview, and to me it looks like he has made up his mind to come to us, mainly due to not getting on with Bournemouth's owners and probably feeling more in tune with Parish, but he is obviously finding it severley painful to wrench himself away from what he's built.

This has all the hallmarks of the Dave Bassett debacle back in 1984. We had just sacked Mullery and Bassett was the rising star very much like David Howe: taking 4th division Wimbledon all the way to the 2nd tier in 3 seasons. He had a similar battle with heart and head; took the Palace job; 4 days later realised he'd made a massive mistake and ran back to Wimbledon. Thankfully as it happens, as Ron Noades turned to Coppell.

Ironically, my gut feeling is that this is what we should be doing now: turning to Coppell. After all the upheavel of the last year, the main task has to be to steady the ship; get us sitting comfortably in mid-table and then, and only then, start taking risks with young, promising lower league managers.

People underestimate the impact administration can have on a club. I felt this when we exited admin in July, and that is why I wanted the safe and knowing hands of Coppell back then, just to cradle us through to calmer waters. This is something Coppell himself realised when we came out of administration the first time back in 2000, and the reason Simon Jordan thought he was far too negative to take Palace forward. I think our last gasp survival that following season bore out Coppell's fears.

Don't get me wrong: i'm as excited as everyone to be linked with such an up and coming managerial prospect as Howe. Unfortunately, I just don't think it is good to start a new job with a heavy heart.

As a Palace fan, i'm packing his bags for him; as a friend I would be telling him to stay put.

Edited by Bubbs (09 Jan 2011 6.57am)


Who's David Howe Bubbs? The pressure is getting to you, you've forgotten his name alreay mate! ha,ha..

Excellent post...I remember those Bassett days...he had barely drunk his first cup of tea at Mitcham Training Ground on his first day when he decided he'd had enough.
All I would say is he has to look at this possible new position as a long term project. If he is able to bring success in keeping us up it will see him firmly established as one of the countrys brightest young managers (which he already is) but at a potentially bigger Club who in my unbiased view have all the attributes to push for promotion in the next season or two. I think when you leave somewhere after being there for a long time you will always miss it to an extent but there comes a time when you must look forward for your own career and take the next step. My only concern would be his lack of knowledge of the Championship although GB had that by the bucketload and look where that has left us so maybe not such a bad thing. As for his age, remember Steve Coppell was two months short of 29 when he took over for the first time. In the light of this, I would love to have Steve as a Technical Director to mentor Eddie..that would be a management dream team!

 


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Quote Seth at 09 Jan 2011 12.37am

The more I think about it the more I'm wondering about EH. They guy clearly loves Bournemouth to his bones and is going through severe emotional torment wondering whether to come to Palace. I think he might be having a nervous breakdown right now just thinking about possibly moving on from his beloved Cherries.

You know what? If it's that hard Eddie, don't worry about it. Stay where you are. We'll be fine. We wouldn't want to take you out of your comfort zone or anything. If you come here you'll need to be totally focussed on us, not having a lump in your throat about the club you appear to be umbilically attached to at the moment.

Just decide one way or the other and make it snappy, the transfer window is running out. Ta ever so.

Agreed.

Must admit that I'm getting a bit tired of reading and listening to how much he loves Bournemouth. He really should just stay where he is if it really is that much of a wrench for him.

At the end of the day, he'd be a lucky man to be the manager of our club. We're a good club to manage with owners and fans who would back him fully. It would be the next logical step in his managerial career. A club with ambititon to progress, decent players to manage, and a very good pool of academy players.

Yet all we are hearing is how great this guy is and how lucky we would be; "Eddie this, Eddie that...blah blah blah". Well, there's no dount he's a good, bright, up and coming manager, but he hasn't done anything yet. He has a long way to go before he can be classed in the same bracket as someone such as Steve Coppell.

If he does decide to join us, then great. He would be lucky to manage Palace. If he doesn't, then so be it. He just obviously wasn't the right man for us. The club is, after all, bigger than any individual.We'll bring in a man who give a 100% to Palace.

Rant over.


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orpintoneagles Flag 09 Jan 11 9.37am

This post has been merged from a topic called 'the mystery deepens' by Cucking Funt

even odd cheeker have given up on who next palace manger,taken all odds off,so is eddie coming or going to charton at this rate we wont even know by end off season,why do palace put they fans in the dark,it's about time all the truth comes out
just think iff your a player and you dont even know would you stay

 

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