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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 16 Dec 15 5.24pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

How ironic that this thread on Bloye should be appearing under the section of this site entitled "Nostalgia" - which is defined by Wikipedia as "a sentimentality for the past, typically for a period or place with happy personal associations"! Another defines it as feelings caused by "remembering something from the past and wishing that you could experience it again"!

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Dec 15 5.32pm

Quote JRW2 at 16 Dec 2015 5.24pm

How ironic that this thread on Bloye should be appearing under the section of this site entitled "Nostalgia" - which is defined by Wikipedia as "a sentimentality for the past, typically for a period or place with happy personal associations"! Another defines it as feelings caused by "remembering something from the past and wishing that you could experience it again"!

How about a noshtalgia talk.


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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 21 Dec 15 1.44pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

Quote sydtheeagle at 15 Dec 2015 9.11pm

Quote Cucking Funt at 14 Jul 2012 11.34am

Quote yourallsowrong at 11 Jul 2012 7.52pm

I have only Registered with this website to express my outrage.How Dare you speak ill of my Late Uncle. He was a warm and caring family man. To call him a "Crook" is a joke. He was a wealthy man through his own hard work. I noticed a comment about him stealing a chicken as a boy that made me laugh He lived in a large house with a cook and maid etc why would he steal a lousy chicken his family were hard working and RICH!!! i think a lot of the comments on here are jelousy.He was a fantastic uncle and we love him dearly. Shame on you all. you did not know the man to call him dodgy is awful.


A thieving c*nt who made Noades look like Robin Hood.

This. And I say that based on a first-hand assessment. Chancer. Con man. Crook.

Get off that fence, and is that Jason king behind Sir Alf?

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 03 Jan 16 8.25pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

I think it is fair to say he was not one of our better Chairman - more in it for himself than the Club.
Did he keep the Sainsbury's money - I don't know?

 

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View dingdong's Profile dingdong Flag bognor regis 03 Jan 16 10.24pm Send a Private Message to dingdong Add dingdong as a friend

seems like he kept it

 

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Hoof Hearted 04 Jan 16 11.44am

Quote dingdong at 03 Jan 2016 10.24pm

seems like he kept it


No "seems" about it... he trousered the lot and I'll bet it was a pretty penny!

In his defence though, he was an amateur compared to Noades at fleecing our beloved club.

 

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View dingdong's Profile dingdong Flag bognor regis 04 Jan 16 1.37pm Send a Private Message to dingdong Add dingdong as a friend

maybe its just me hoof but ithink noades was good for us

 

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Hoof Hearted 06 Jan 16 12.45pm

Quote dingdong at 04 Jan 2016 1.37pm

maybe its just me hoof but ithink noades was good for us


Yes I'm sure Dr Shipman's patients trusted him too.

 

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View lyeemoon's Profile lyeemoon Flag Girne 07 Jan 16 5.11pm Send a Private Message to lyeemoon Add lyeemoon as a friend

Ron told me that he would spill the beans on the Sainsbury's saga but he's gone now. Perhaps Novella has got it smuggled away.

There was definitely a huge bust up over it and would appear that TV got the hump, buggered off to Queens Grubby Rangers and started getting our players for a song with Alison's approval. Dodgy dealings indeed.

One can only speculate that RB reneged on a deal to cut TV & MA in.

 


lo Selhurst silva felix, lo Selhurst cara nutrix, viget, vigeat, vigebit! Best team:- Jackson; Gilbert, Evans, Cannon, Sansom; Hughes, Kember, McNichol; Byrne, Holton, Wright.

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 08 Jan 16 1.55pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

It's almost impossible to reduce Ron to a simple "good" or "bad" answer. Every time you find something he did wrong, you find something very right. Every time you find a reason to like him, you find one to hate him. A complex character whose reign at Palace is very, very difficult to summarise but I would say that in the end, there is more good than bad. It would be interesting to research and write his biography not least to weigh the evidence properly and see where it led you. It's interesting, though, that pretty much everyone beatifies Steve Coppell as the living example of "Mr. Palace" and Coppell is clearly in the pro-Noades camp. How can it be that most disagree with their greatest hero? I've always been on the pro-Ron side of the fence (although I'm more sanguine about him than I used to be.) No matter what else, he was a visionary and one of the more interesting people to populate the football landscape over the past quarter century. It is very hard to believe Palace would have been better off without him.

 


Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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View Phil O'Sophical's Profile Phil O'Sophical Flag 15 Jan 16 11.49am Send a Private Message to Phil O'Sophical Add Phil O'Sophical as a friend

The underlying hatred of Noades goes back to the fact that he was a property developer and chancer who seemed to have his own interests at heart rather than those of the club.

When he was Chairman of Wimbledon it was him who originally proposed moving Wimbledon to Milton Keynes in the 70's, but that failed. Then he bought Palace from wrecker Bloye and turned up as Palace Chairman, never having previously been a fan.

He was part of that club of 80's property developers who tried to split the club from their ground with a view to developing the ground to reap the rewards.

It started with the Sunley building family who bought Charlton and split the club from the Valley. They then agreed a groundshare with Palace, where Noades had split CPFC from the ground. The plan was then to redevelop the Valley, build a new stadium (heaven knows where) to hold both Charlton and Palace and move Palace out of Selhurst Park and redevelop it.

To their credit, Charlton fans started a local political party, the Valley Party, and actually got enough votes to win a seat and unseat the Labour Chairman of the Planning Committee. As a result, and very fortunately for us, Greenwich Council threw out the plans to redevelop the Valley and the whole plan unravelled. Charlton reunited the club and the ground in 1988 but for us it would take many years more.

Wimbledon did ultimately succumb to property speculation when they were split from their ground by Sam Hammam who walked away with 36million having paid 41000 for the club.

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Their ground was sold to Safeway for redevelopment and the club sold to Norwegians who, ironically, moved the club to Milton Keynes.

The irony with Noades was that (unwittingly?) he kept appointing managers who brought the club great success - first Dave Bassett at Wimbledon and then Saint Steve at Palace. Even he turned out to be a good manager appointing himself manager at Brentford and winning promotion at the first attempt, winning the Manager of the Year Award for Division Three in 1999!

But the bottom line is he was a property chancer who moved from club to club to make money for himself and finally did so out of Mark Goldberg rather than redevelopment.

The 'reorganisation' of Palace he undertook in the 80's is now classified as an Administration by the Football League, so basically we have been bust three times and the first one's down to him.

The separation of CPFC from Selhurst Park set the club back three decades and that's entirely down to him. Thankfully, under Steve Parish, we now seem to be making up for those lost years and more to become the great club that we should be.

 


The crowd is outstanding, and especially with the penalty after 44 minutes it was clear when we came out after half-time the welcome would be pretty loud and not too friendly. Crystal Palace wanted to strike back, so that was all clear. This is a wonderful place to play football - Jurgen Klopp

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Jan 16 11.54am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote Phil O'Sophical at 15 Jan 2016 11.49am

The separation of CPFC from Selhurst Park set the club back three decades and that's entirely down to him.

Noades had said that if the ground deal had not been separate, city investors would have meant CPFC losing the ground after the Goldberg "Administration".
He also said that he did not set out to own SP after he sold the club.


Edited by Willo (15 Jan 2016 11.54am)

 

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