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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 04 Feb 13 2.39pm Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

This is for the older ones amongst us.

I was wondering what memories any of you have of our first season in the top flight of English football in 1969-1970?

Since then, although it may not always seem like it, we have been a fairly successful club. 13 seasons in the top division, an FA Cup Final etc.

However, prior to our promotion from Div.3 to Div.2 in 1964, the start of our ascendancy, we had spent most of our history grubbing around in Div 3, Div 4 and the old Div 3 South. We were an unfashionable side that was largely indistinguishable from all those other league clubs around the country who had spent most of their existence in the lower divisions.

Consequently, to the followers of the club, at that time, it was almost surreal to find our ourselves in the top division. I can remember looking with something verging on incredulity at the opening day fixture list for 1969/1970. Crystal Palace v Manchester United. Surely only a dream!

How we survived that first season was something of a miracle. It was an almighty struggle. We really didn't have a first division line-up of players. We only won 6 games, but a tally 15 draws was enough, just, to keep us up and send down Sunderland and Sheff Wed.

So, what do you recall from that initial season in the old First Division?

 

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View Marshian's Profile Marshian Flag Ashford, Kent 04 Feb 13 2.55pm Send a Private Message to Marshian Add Marshian as a friend

I certainly remember the first game against Man U vividly even though I was 9. 48,000 attendance, that was counted anyway. Will we ever see gates like that again.
I got seperated from my dad on the Holmesdale trying to get a view. At the end of the game a kindly copper hoisted me up on his police horse so my dad could spot me at the final whistle. 48,000 leaving the ground at the same time was a bit different from 15,000

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 04 Feb 13 3.17pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

I remember the Man U game pretty well...I was 12 years old !

We then had another home game in midweek and beat Sunderland comfortably enough by 2-0.

That season was about enduring some real pastings - losing to Arsenal and Chelsea by 1-5 at Selhurst Park - and any wins were by the narrowest of margins.

Overriding memories are of Jack's goalkeeping heroics ( in just about every game ) and John McCormick's dogged defending.

 


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View tangerineeagle's Profile tangerineeagle Flag cleveleys,lancs 04 Feb 13 4.21pm Send a Private Message to tangerineeagle Add tangerineeagle as a friend

i managed to see them at their third game of the season at everton,mel blyth scored first,i couldn't beleive it,palace in the big time,everton eventually won 2-1,but what a thrill going to my first big ground.
also saw them at anfield dec 72,jacko,whittle and don rogers,what a team we had,only lost 1-0,bring back the good times

 


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View MottyJohn's Profile MottyJohn Flag Mottingham 04 Feb 13 4.43pm Send a Private Message to MottyJohn Add MottyJohn as a friend

My first ever game was the home game against Leeds in October 69 when John Sewelll's long range punt embarrassed Gary Sprake, somehow finding its way into the net to make it 1-1. I've been a fan ever since.

 

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View Leiceagle's Profile Leiceagle Flag Great Glen Leicestershire 04 Feb 13 10.58pm Send a Private Message to Leiceagle Add Leiceagle as a friend

Sorry to be an anorac but Sprake's mistake was early in season 70/71.
69/70 was a real struggle and my first full season following Palace. I became hooked. I remember the home wins over Southampton and Man City (last game of the season) that got us up to the 27 point mark and then we had to wait to see how Sunderland and Shef Wed got on in their last 2 games.
Jacko, Kember, McCormick, Blyth and Payne were epic throughout the season. Claret and blue hero's

 

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View royc's Profile royc Flag Calgary 04 Feb 13 11.43pm Send a Private Message to royc Add royc as a friend

First post, long time follower of the Palace.

My memories as a 13 year old of that season was our first game against Man Utd. There were red and white scarves wherever you turned in and around Thornton Heath that morning. I arrived at the ground mid-day to find Man Utd fans breaking down the corrugated entry gate at the Whitehorse end (no Sainsbury’s at that time). It was a long wait in the hot August sun for the game to start and the ground was full to the rafters by kick off at 3 pm. I went home happy with a 2-2 start to the season. Unfortunately, darker days were ahead that season.

 

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View wollongongeagle's Profile wollongongeagle Flag wollongong 17 Feb 13 1.43pm Send a Private Message to wollongongeagle Add wollongongeagle as a friend

Royc - Beaulah Junior School??

I was there when the Man U fans knocked down the corrugated gate at the Whitehorse End. I got there early with Chris Hatton (his brother, Mark, would have been in your year at school). We got swept into the Whitehorse End by this flood of red - our feet hardly touching the ground.


The Whitehorse End had undergone some re-construction over the Summer break, and we settled in at the upper terrace among all the Mancs. I seem to remember that before the game, a sizeable contingent of Man U decided that the Whitehorse End wasn't for them, so they walked across the pitch and took over the Holmesdale End.

What a thrill to see George Best, Bobby Charlton and co. at Selhurst. I just re-lived the goals on Youtube. A scrappy goal from Roger Hynd, and a well-taken goal by Gerry McQueen had us 2-1 up at half-time, with Charlton scoring at the Holmesdale for them. Heaven. However, the dream wasn't quite to be. Jacko made a rare error coming out to the ball, and WIllie Morgan equalised. Still, I was a very happy 10 year old walking back up Whitehorse Lane, part of a new shared Palace experience.

 


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View PalacePhotoMan's Profile PalacePhotoMan Flag Wallington 17 Feb 13 2.16pm Send a Private Message to PalacePhotoMan Add PalacePhotoMan as a friend

Yes, I went with a mate to the Whitehorse end, can't remember why as we always went to the Holmesdale and still do.

Seemed to be surrounded by Moan Utd fans so probably made the wrong decision, but at least we were at the end where we scored our 2 goals.

Attached is a photo of Jacko saving a shot from Best, with Law and craggy Scot Johnny Mac close by. Big Mac signed it a few years ago but (as he said) only if Law hadn't scored from the rebound (which he didn't).

A second mail follows about our game v Man City which we won and stayed up.

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Zaha, Williams, Murray, Ambrose, Scannell.

A 5-man forward line who scored 3 goals in 10 minutes on 27th September 2011 at .......................

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View PalacePhotoMan's Profile PalacePhotoMan Flag Wallington 17 Feb 13 2.20pm Send a Private Message to PalacePhotoMan Add PalacePhotoMan as a friend

When we played Man City at the end of the season we had to win it to give ourselves any chance of staying up. City had games in Europe and the FA Cup final at the time and had a bit of a fixture pile-up, so they fielded a weaker than usual team against us.

Attached is a pic of Roger Hoy slamming in our winning goal.

""E's 'ere, 'e's there, 'e's every f##king-where, Roger 'Oy, Roger 'Oy............. ""

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Zaha, Williams, Murray, Ambrose, Scannell.

A 5-man forward line who scored 3 goals in 10 minutes on 27th September 2011 at .......................

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View royc's Profile royc Flag Calgary 17 Feb 13 11.28pm Send a Private Message to royc Add royc as a friend

Wollongongeagle....yes Beulah was my first school.. Was that a guess or do we know each other? Funny how us ex Brits still follow this football club from a far. I have promised myself a trip back if we make the playoffs this year. I also remember the Man Utd fans walking across to the Holmesdale before game. For some reason that game and the last game of the previous season when we beat Fulham to go up stick in my memory. Running on the pitch after the final whistle and watching the players throw their kit from the stand was magical.

 

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