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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Apr 14 3.05pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote NEILLO at 24 Apr 2014 12.22pm

Ultimately he was shrewd to bring Venables in.

If my memory serves me well (Which it sometimes doesn't !), it was a double transfer with Ian Evans also joining from QPR.


 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Apr 14 3.11pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote alaneagle1 at 24 Apr 2014 3.02pm


Anybody remember PLYMOUTH away in the FA CUP.?
1974 ?

I might be wrong but I have a feeling we went down 2-1.I think former keeper Tony Waiters was the Plymouth manager at that time.But I could be totally wrong about all of this - wouldn't be the first time !!!!


 

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View blind eagle's Profile blind eagle Flag Covington.Tennessee 12 Jul 14 11.47pm Send a Private Message to blind eagle Add blind eagle as a friend

Fort me Big Mal ment bubbly and prawn sandwiches and plenty of em!.

 

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Hoof Hearted 13 Jul 14 9.58am

Quote blind eagle at 12 Jul 2014 11.47pm

For me Big Mal ment bubbly and prawn sandwiches and plenty of em!.


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View adrian b's Profile adrian b Flag Landrindod, Wales 13 Jul 14 3.50pm Send a Private Message to adrian b Add adrian b as a friend

The season Ray Bloye bullied Waite out of Selhurst and set up the import of Big Mal as an (supposed)assistant to Bert Head. Palace had bought some great players (Whittle, Rogers, Phillip) and were starting to turn the relegation tide, as per usual. Bert picked the team v Chelsea and Cannon for his debut. Jimbo scored, Palace won (the first league victory v London Clubs in the First) But still Bert felt the pressure of being told what to do by Bloye backed Mal and he quit. The rest is shame and history for The Glaziers who became the Eagles. Nicked named the team players with (I think) Blythe as Master pieces and Tony Taylor as Stroller among others. Complete crap and the wonderful gates Bert and AW had built up went on a long slow tumble.
Incidently, on the TV coverage of the World Cup Mal said Mullery should never be in the England team as he wasn't really international class. Mullery and his family were hurt and surprised by this and demanded a right of reply on ITV's football program (with Dicky Davis) where Mal repeated what he said, but also said he liked Mullery as a bloke and a pro, but not as an International Player. Pundits suggested this was a face down by Mal, but most football followers would have agreed and chided Mullery for being a bit precious.

 

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Catfish Flag Burgess Hill 13 Jul 14 4.00pm

When Mal published his memoirs he said that the club was in a dreadful state and everything crumbled as he was takng over, ie it wasn't his fault we dropped two divisions. Bert Head pointed out that when he left Palace were a 1st division club and Mal was talking nonsense.
With the benefit of hindsight much of what was achieved in the 60's was thrown away fairly cheaply. Mal was certainly a character and a motivator but I wonder if we see him in too much of a rose tinted light?

 


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Quote Catfish at 13 Jul 2014 4.00pm

When Mal published his memoirs he said that the club was in a dreadful state and everything crumbled as he was takng over, ie it wasn't his fault we dropped two divisions. Bert Head pointed out that when he left Palace were a 1st division club and Mal was talking nonsense.
With the benefit of hindsight much of what was achieved in the 60's was thrown away fairly cheaply. Mal was certainly a character and a motivator but I wonder if we see him in too much of a rose tinted light?

Yes. seriously over rosed on the Mal issue are most Eagleantites. Even as it happened many fell for it hook line and sinking down the league. What did Mal do later? Don't even waste your time looking

 

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View adrian b's Profile adrian b Flag Landrindod, Wales 13 Jul 14 5.08pm Send a Private Message to adrian b Add adrian b as a friend

And Mal brought both Venables and George Graham to the club. Which should he keep, as both had managerial qualities? Vnables stayed and made history. Graham left and made history. I suppose you could say Big Mal could spot a player, but wasn't the best at creating success from these riches.

 

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View Red-Blue-Yellow's Profile Red-Blue-Yellow Flag Surrey 15 Jul 14 11.16pm Send a Private Message to Red-Blue-Yellow Add Red-Blue-Yellow as a friend

I'm not in the best of moods right now so that might explain why instead of my usual " Well, he was a character" attitude to Big Mal, I'm going to say that I think he is one of the real villains in our history. Most of what he attempted football-wise back-fired, his handling of players was frankly appalling, his ideas on promoting the club were cheap and childish. What was wrong with our nick-name or the colours we played in? If you ask me, he was too easily impressed by American ideas of what constituted a Football club and totally seduced by media attention. "All mouth and trousers" as my granny said.
However, he was responsible for that immortal quote when asked(on returning from the States)whether he prefered grass or Astro-Turf, "I don't know, I've never smoked Astro-Turf". So not all bad!

 


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View adrian b's Profile adrian b Flag Landrindod, Wales 16 Jul 14 11.01am Send a Private Message to adrian b Add adrian b as a friend

Another telling memory of the big fella was at the famous Villa Park semi v Liverpool. Mal was the touchline reporter who, at half-time, with Palace 1-0 down, said, 'Palace look the stronger team from here'. Howls of laughter from the bedesked studio pundits. The rest really is history. Hope that puts you in better humour RB&Y

 

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