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Seth On a pale blue dot 02 May 15 2.14am
Quote derben at 01 May 2015 7.03pm Quote Seth at 01 May 2015 6.26pm Quote Vaibow at 01 May 2015 5.32pm it may well be that UKIP represent what most of us think, but realistically - would we be any better at running the nation this way? what i mean is, ideally many of us want this and that, but does it translate well in the wider picture - when has a party ever gone in and totally shaken things up. Things take time, messes need to be cleaned up and it isn't that easy. Politicians are no more more than puppets and 'yes' people to the higher powers that be - banks and corporations. Would UKIP stand their ground and piss off the economical world or eventually get their hands twisted and be just another puppet? I mostly agree with your analysis except the first sentence, which is clearly untrue, given current polling figures put UKIP's support at about 12%. More than TUSC and the Greens I see. Good name the Green Party, as you must be very green indeed to vote for them. Are you a professional comedian? You should be with material like that. "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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it may well be that UKIP represent what most of us think, but realistically - would we be any better at running the nation this way?

what i mean is, ideally many of us want this and that, but does it translate well in the wider picture - when has a party ever gone in and totally shaken things up. Things take time, messes need to be cleaned up and it isn't that easy.

Politicians are no more more than puppets and 'yes' people to the higher powers that be - banks and corporations.

Would UKIP stand their ground and piss off the economical world or eventually get their hands twisted and be just another puppet?

I mostly agree with your analysis except the first sentence, which is clearly untrue, given current polling figures put UKIP's support at about 12%.

More than TUSC and the Greens I see. Good name the Green Party, as you must be very green indeed to vote for them.

Are you a professional comedian? You should be with material like that.

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Midlands Eagle 02 May 15 6.46am
Quote derben at 01 May 2015 7.59am Over 3,000 posts about UKIP, a party that many of the posters dismiss as unimportant, not a threat, will not get many votes. Why the interest then? UKIP is possibly the most important political party in England at the moment as it's their huge number of supporters that could decide the outcome of the general election. Historically 85% of voters (that's my guess) vote along traditional lines and it's the remaining 15% of floating voters that decide the outcome of elections but it's quite possible that those voters that have defected from Conservative to UKIP will stop any party from an outright victory and with the political landscape having changed north of the border with the possibility that SNP will win every seat at Labour's expense the result is likely to be a mess with no party having the authority to govern without having to make deals with unsavoury partners and it's that, that makes UKIP important
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Quote derben at 01 May 2015 7.59am

Over 3,000 posts about UKIP, a party that many of the posters dismiss as unimportant, not a threat, will not get many votes. Why the interest then?

UKIP is possibly the most important political party in England at the moment as it's their huge number of supporters that could decide the outcome of the general election.

Historically 85% of voters (that's my guess) vote along traditional lines and it's the remaining 15% of floating voters that decide the outcome of elections but it's quite possible that those voters that have defected from Conservative to UKIP will stop any party from an outright victory and with the political landscape having changed north of the border with the possibility that SNP will win every seat at Labour's expense the result is likely to be a mess with no party having the authority to govern without having to make deals with unsavoury partners and it's that, that makes UKIP important

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Kermit8 Hevon 02 May 15 7.50am
Re: Amount of posts. Any new-ish (at the time) political group with seemingly far right or left views create huge amounts of interest. The National Front BNP Militant and now UKIP. They always end up where they belong though. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Re: Amount of posts. Any new-ish (at the time) political group with seemingly far right or left views create huge amounts of interest.

The National Front
BNP
Militant
and now UKIP.

They always end up where they belong though.

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derben 02 May 15 9.33am
Quote Seth at 02 May 2015 2.14am Quote derben at 01 May 2015 7.03pm Quote Seth at 01 May 2015 6.26pm Quote Vaibow at 01 May 2015 5.32pm it may well be that UKIP represent what most of us think, but realistically - would we be any better at running the nation this way? what i mean is, ideally many of us want this and that, but does it translate well in the wider picture - when has a party ever gone in and totally shaken things up. Things take time, messes need to be cleaned up and it isn't that easy. Politicians are no more more than puppets and 'yes' people to the higher powers that be - banks and corporations. Would UKIP stand their ground and piss off the economical world or eventually get their hands twisted and be just another puppet? I mostly agree with your analysis except the first sentence, which is clearly untrue, given current polling figures put UKIP's support at about 12%. More than TUSC and the Greens I see. Good name the Green Party, as you must be very green indeed to vote for them. Are you a professional comedian? You should be with material like that. Just considering the Green's transport policy, which is basically that everyone walks and cycles everywhere. Concerned about the effects on the environment from all that sweat and body odour that will be produced, will it damage the ozone layer or cause lentil plants to wilt?
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02 May 15 9.33am

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it may well be that UKIP represent what most of us think, but realistically - would we be any better at running the nation this way?

Politicians are no more more than puppets and 'yes' people to the higher powers that be - banks and corporations.

Would UKIP stand their ground and piss off the economical world or eventually get their hands twisted and be just another puppet?

I mostly agree with your analysis except the first sentence, which is clearly untrue, given current polling figures put UKIP's support at about 12%.

More than TUSC and the Greens I see. Good name the Green Party, as you must be very green indeed to vote for them.

Are you a professional comedian? You should be with material like that.

Just considering the Green's transport policy, which is basically that everyone walks and cycles everywhere. Concerned about the effects on the environment from all that sweat and body odour that will be produced, will it damage the ozone layer or cause lentil plants to wilt?

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TheJudge 02 May 15 9.38am
Quote Kermit8 at 02 May 2015 7.50am Re: Amount of posts. Any new-ish (at the time) political group with seemingly far right or left views create huge amounts of interest. The National Front BNP Militant and now UKIP. They always end up where they belong though. Comparing UKIP to those other "parties" is really pathetic. Do you rabid Lefties ever give up ? I would look at your constituency and vote either UKIP or Conservative depending on th poll at the last election. Keeping Labour out is the priority. Edited by TheJudge (02 May 2015 9.39am)
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Quote Kermit8 at 02 May 2015 7.50am

Re: Amount of posts. Any new-ish (at the time) political group with seemingly far right or left views create huge amounts of interest.

The National Front
BNP
Militant
and now UKIP.

They always end up where they belong though.

Comparing UKIP to those other "parties" is really pathetic. Do you rabid Lefties ever give up ?

I would look at your constituency and vote either UKIP or Conservative depending on th poll at the last election. Keeping Labour out is the priority.

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Kermit8 Hevon 02 May 15 10.23am
Quote TheJudge at 02 May 2015 9.38am Quote Kermit8 at 02 May 2015 7.50am Re: Amount of posts. Any new-ish (at the time) political group with seemingly far right or left views create huge amounts of interest. The National Front BNP Militant and now UKIP. They always end up where they belong though. Comparing UKIP to those other "parties" is really pathetic. Do you rabid Lefties ever give up ? I would look at your constituency and vote either UKIP or Conservative depending on th poll at the last election. Keeping Labour out is the priority. Edited by TheJudge (02 May 2015 9.39am) eh? With regard to the amount of interest at their timeit is a perfectly valid comparison. Militant were headline for a few years as were National Front. Why do you think it is a false comparison? Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Quote TheJudge at 02 May 2015 9.38am

Quote Kermit8 at 02 May 2015 7.50am

Re: Amount of posts. Any new-ish (at the time) political group with seemingly far right or left views create huge amounts of interest.

The National Front
BNP
Militant
and now UKIP.

They always end up where they belong though.

Comparing UKIP to those other "parties" is really pathetic. Do you rabid Lefties ever give up ?

I would look at your constituency and vote either UKIP or Conservative depending on th poll at the last election. Keeping Labour out is the priority.

Edited by TheJudge (02 May 2015 9.39am)

eh? With regard to the amount of interest at their timeit is a perfectly valid comparison. Militant were headline for a few years as were National Front. Why do you think it is a false comparison?

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TheJudge 02 May 15 1.57pm
For a start, those mentioned never had anything like the projected vote percentage of UKIP. UKIP are now rating much better than the Liberals.
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For a start, those mentioned never had anything like the projected vote percentage of UKIP.
UKIP are now rating much better than the Liberals.

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Quote nickgusset at 01 May 2015 6.59pm Would you vote for a man with this name? When I first looked I thought the name was Wombwell Ward, to which the answer would be hell yes
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Would you vote for a man with this name?

When I first looked I thought the name was Wombwell Ward, to which the answer would be hell yes

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Kermit8 Hevon 02 May 15 3.28pm
Quote TheJudge at 02 May 2015 1.57pm For a start, those mentioned never had anything like the projected vote percentage of UKIP. UKIP are now rating much better than the Liberals. Which kinda underpins my point. Those groups got plenty of media coverage because of their views even with a small percentage so it's no surprise here then that UKIP get a lot too on forums like this. Edited by Kermit8 (02 May 2015 3.29pm) Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Quote TheJudge at 02 May 2015 1.57pm

For a start, those mentioned never had anything like the projected vote percentage of UKIP.
UKIP are now rating much better than the Liberals.

Which kinda underpins my point. Those groups got plenty of media coverage because of their views even with a small percentage so it's no surprise here then that UKIP get a lot too on forums like this.

Edited by Kermit8 (02 May 2015 3.29pm)

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TheJudge 02 May 15 7.20pm
Quote Kermit8 at 02 May 2015 3.28pm Quote TheJudge at 02 May 2015 1.57pm For a start, those mentioned never had anything like the projected vote percentage of UKIP. UKIP are now rating much better than the Liberals. Which kinda underpins my point. Those groups got plenty of media coverage because of their views even with a small percentage so it's no surprise here then that UKIP get a lot too on forums like this. Edited by Kermit8 (02 May 2015 3.29pm) Nonsense. UKIP have got coverage because a significant number of the population support their views.
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Quote TheJudge at 02 May 2015 1.57pm

For a start, those mentioned never had anything like the projected vote percentage of UKIP.
UKIP are now rating much better than the Liberals.

Edited by Kermit8 (02 May 2015 3.29pm)

Nonsense. UKIP have got coverage because a significant number of the population support their views.

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Kermit8 Hevon 02 May 15 8.19pm
Quote TheJudge at 02 May 2015 7.20pm Quote Kermit8 at 02 May 2015 3.28pm Quote TheJudge at 02 May 2015 1.57pm For a start, those mentioned never had anything like the projected vote percentage of UKIP. UKIP are now rating much better than the Liberals. Which kinda underpins my point. Those groups got plenty of media coverage because of their views even with a small percentage so it's no surprise here then that UKIP get a lot too on forums like this. Edited by Kermit8 (02 May 2015 3.29pm) Nonsense. UKIP have got coverage because a significant number of the population support their views. Significant enough to gain a massive one or, possibly, zero seats at the General Election it appears. As it is it looks like one in twelve will be voting for them but considering a fair proportion of those will be in their target seats - five or is it six seats? - then that one in twelve will be more like one in sixteen, seventeen, or more, around the rest of the country I'd guess. They deserve the coverage and they deserve the scrutiny. So many have been expelled in the last couple of years it would be wholly inappropriate not to make them jump through some hoops to put their case. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Quote TheJudge at 02 May 2015 7.20pm

Quote Kermit8 at 02 May 2015 3.28pm

Quote TheJudge at 02 May 2015 1.57pm

For a start, those mentioned never had anything like the projected vote percentage of UKIP.
UKIP are now rating much better than the Liberals.

Edited by Kermit8 (02 May 2015 3.29pm)

Nonsense. UKIP have got coverage because a significant number of the population support their views.

Significant enough to gain a massive one or, possibly, zero seats at the General Election it appears. As it is it looks like one in twelve will be voting for them but considering a fair proportion of those will be in their target seats - five or is it six seats? - then that one in twelve will be more like one in sixteen, seventeen, or more, around the rest of the country I'd guess.

They deserve the coverage and they deserve the scrutiny. So many have been expelled in the last couple of years it would be wholly inappropriate not to make them jump through some hoops to put their case.

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TheJudge 02 May 15 8.26pm
Quote Kermit8 at 02 May 2015 8.19pm Quote TheJudge at 02 May 2015 7.20pm Quote Kermit8 at 02 May 2015 3.28pm Quote TheJudge at 02 May 2015 1.57pm For a start, those mentioned never had anything like the projected vote percentage of UKIP. UKIP are now rating much better than the Liberals. Which kinda underpins my point. Those groups got plenty of media coverage because of their views even with a small percentage so it's no surprise here then that UKIP get a lot too on forums like this. Edited by Kermit8 (02 May 2015 3.29pm) Nonsense. UKIP have got coverage because a significant number of the population support their views. Significant enough to gain a massive one or, possibly, zero seats at the General Election it appears. As it is it looks like one in twelve will be voting for them but considering a fair proportion of those will be in their target seats - five or is it six seats? - then that one in twelve will be more like one in sixteen, seventeen, or more, around the rest of the country I'd guess. They deserve the coverage and they deserve the scrutiny. So many have been expelled in the last couple of years it would be wholly inappropriate not to make them jump through some hoops to put their case. You know full well that they would get far more seats in a proportional representation system. 15% of the vote an a few seats ? Hardly reasonable is it.
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Quote TheJudge at 02 May 2015 7.20pm

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Quote TheJudge at 02 May 2015 1.57pm

For a start, those mentioned never had anything like the projected vote percentage of UKIP.
UKIP are now rating much better than the Liberals.

Edited by Kermit8 (02 May 2015 3.29pm)

Nonsense. UKIP have got coverage because a significant number of the population support their views.

You know full well that they would get far more seats in a proportional representation system.
15% of the vote an a few seats ? Hardly reasonable is it.

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