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Originally posted by HKOwen

Do you know when the Bronze Age was ? Appears not.

1908 Olympics?

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 29 Jul 21 5.29pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend


Hitler persecuted the Jews.

Muslim Judoka are all refusing to compete with jews.

...the new Nazi

 


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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 29 Jul 21 6.46pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

All religion is fantasy based really, and a rejection of new understandings even if there are some useful lessons and approaches to life detailed within religious texts.

Go back far enough and we could say that Christianity was a barbaric religion responsible for various atrocities. These things are hijacked and directed in whatever way is useful or visible.

No major religion is going away, and as well as decent life lessons the Quran, Bible and so on of course contain many bats*** crazy and violent views that can manifest themselves in various times and places.

"Is Islam, the new Nazi ?" isn't a helpful title, since most people of any religion are obviously just getting on with boring day to day life for the most part. With Islamic teachings a better balance needs to be found between allowing people autonomy of view, and not turning a blind eye to more radical views that essentially break the law. Where something is nuts, contravenes law, or endangers lives, cries of 'Islamaphobia' should be ignored. Outside of that though, people should be able to hold whatever religious views they like.


 

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Originally posted by BlueJay

All religion is fantasy based really, and a rejection of new understandings even if there are some useful lessons and approaches to life detailed within religious texts.

Go back far enough and we could say that Christianity was a barbaric religion responsible for various atrocities. These things are hijacked and directed in whatever way is useful or visible.

No major religion is going away, and as well as decent life lessons the Quran, Bible and so on of course contain many bats*** crazy and violent views that can manifest themselves in various times and places.

"Is Islam, the new Nazi ?" isn't a helpful title, since most people of any religion are obviously just getting on with boring day to day life for the most part. With Islamic teachings a better balance needs to be found between allowing people autonomy of view, and not turning a blind eye to more radical views that essentially break the law. Where something is nuts, contravenes law, or endangers lives, cries of 'Islamaphobia' should be ignored. Outside of that though, people should be able to hold whatever religious views they like.


on the one hand, you are correct. There is a nice side to all religions. Even the violent nasty ones.
And some would say the same thing about Nazi ideology ?

 


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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


Hitler persecuted the Jews.

Muslim Judoka are all refusing to compete with jews.

...the new Nazi

What would the reaction be if women weightlifters refused to compete against a transgender competitor?

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 30 Jul 21 12.20pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Do you know when the Bronze Age was ? Appears not.


Ok the stories are said to originate from the bronze and iron ages, smarty pants!

 

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Originally posted by BlueJay

All religion is fantasy based really, and a rejection of new understandings even if there are some useful lessons and approaches to life detailed within religious texts.

Go back far enough and we could say that Christianity was a barbaric religion responsible for various atrocities. These things are hijacked and directed in whatever way is useful or visible.

No major religion is going away, and as well as decent life lessons the Quran, Bible and so on of course contain many bats*** crazy and violent views that can manifest themselves in various times and places.

"Is Islam, the new Nazi ?" isn't a helpful title, since most people of any religion are obviously just getting on with boring day to day life for the most part. With Islamic teachings a better balance needs to be found between allowing people autonomy of view, and not turning a blind eye to more radical views that essentially break the law. Where something is nuts, contravenes law, or endangers lives, cries of 'Islamaphobia' should be ignored. Outside of that though, people should be able to hold whatever religious views they like.


Understatement of the century!

The irony is that, if you read European history, in medieval times Jews and those who did not follow strict Catholic dogma fled to areas under Islamic control as they showed far more religious tolerance. They tended not to be burned alive.

Also, Christians did not come off well during the Crusades; again, the Muslims seemed to behave far better.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 30 Jul 21 1.53pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Understatement of the century!

The irony is that, if you read European history, in medieval times Jews and those who did not follow strict Catholic dogma fled to areas under Islamic control as they showed far more religious tolerance. They tended not to be burned alive.

Also, Christians did not come off well during the Crusades; again, the Muslims seemed to behave far better.

Agreed, & we also used to burn witches at the stake, however whilst only a miniscule percentage of Christians partake in violence a lot of Muslims or a huge swathe of them feel it is their duty to blow themselves up in supermarkets or on subway trains & have no issues driving a 10 ton truck full of explosives into a building.
They also seem to have a tendency for decapitating people because you are Gay, Jewish or an outspoken woman. In fact I think this happened in Minnesota just last night!!
Isn't it amazing that the religion that bangs on about tolerance are probably (only my opinion of course)seemingly amongst the least tolerant of all.
I'm struggling to remember when a member of the Seventh Day Adventists strapped on a suicide vest & blew themselves up at a Concert !!

 


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Difficult to take any history opinions from someone who doesn't know when the Bronze Age was.

Originally posted by silvertop

Understatement of the century!

The irony is that, if you read European history, in medieval times Jews and those who did not follow strict Catholic dogma fled to areas under Islamic control as they showed far more religious tolerance. They tended not to be burned alive.

Also, Christians did not come off well during the Crusades; again, the Muslims seemed to behave far better.

 


A lie will travel half way around the world before the truth has got it's shoes on.

I have simply accepted Wisbech Eagle is an all knowing and wise higher form of life.

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Originally posted by HKOwen

Difficult to take any history opinions from someone who doesn't know when the Bronze Age was.

Trolling me 0wen?

If you disagree with my central point say so and why?

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 31 Jul 21 1.55am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

on the one hand, you are correct. There is a nice side to all religions. Even the violent nasty ones.
And some would say the same thing about Nazi ideology ?

Well all I can say is that anyone with a varied social circle will know that it's perfectly possible to know Muslim people and for it to be rather mundane and a non event. It is not however possible to know a 'decent' bog standard neo nazi. Those elevating or showing respect to the swastika adoring are pitiful, lost souls, who are mirror images of the worst extremes of what they profess to hate about other ideologies.

There's no denying that there are terror related issues from various groups, and certainly some countries under Islamic law that are repugnant in their lack of human rights. In the same way there are non Muslim countries (like China) that torment, torture and indeed harvest the organs of muslims, so these things extend a little more to time, place, and the darkest parts of human nature than always a specific world view.

Muslim people aren't going away and (outside of immigration policy) the only option is to try to promote a more mundane, moderate way of life and to enforce existing laws where we have failed to do so, due to fears of how it will be received. I would say that a great many already adhere to that so are not nazi-like in any way. If people are proposing that there is some other way of 'dealing with' Muslims in this country, I would assume that either means a desire to deport or remove them in some way. For one that's not going to happen, and on top of that freedom of speech and belief, where at least it adheres to law, does not only apply to ideas we personally like or advocate.


Edited by BlueJay (31 Jul 2021 4.40am)

 

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If I did I would, what I "disagree with" is your poor knowledge of history which your throw around.

Trolling you, I don't even really know what that means.I am certainly prepared to point about errors of fact from anyone, in your case more than most.

Your central points if you ever make them are so immersed in rubbish it's hard to spot them.

There you go

Oh, and generally accepted to be 3300 B.C to 1200 B.C, the Bronze Age that is.

Originally posted by silvertop

Trolling me 0wen?

If you disagree with my central point say so and why?

Edited by HKOwen (31 Jul 2021 8.59am)

 


A lie will travel half way around the world before the truth has got it's shoes on.

I have simply accepted Wisbech Eagle is an all knowing and wise higher form of life.

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