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View mcduh's Profile mcduh Flag 22 Jul 15 11.46pm Send a Private Message to mcduh Add mcduh as a friend

The Confederate flag, and the Confederacy itself's historic purpose is clear.

The flag's contemporary use is totally tasteless and in fact, it's *aggressively* tasteless and belies a really embarrassing level of ignorance.

And unfortunately, although these links to olde tyme documents and interviews from this year with black people who live in the UK and Ireland, etc. are interesting and informational to those of us who "get it," they are doomed to fail in the effort we're posting them:

because right-wing white people live in a hyper-avoidant alternate reality.

 

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Quote mcduh at 22 Jul 2015 11.46pm

The Confederate flag, and the Confederacy itself's historic purpose is clear.

The flag's contemporary use is totally tasteless and in fact, it's *aggressively* tasteless and belies a really embarrassing level of ignorance.

And unfortunately, although these links to olde tyme documents and interviews from this year with black people who live in the UK and Ireland, etc. are interesting and informational to those of us who "get it," they are doomed to fail in the effort we're posting them:

because right-wing white people live in a hyper-avoidant alternate reality.


I take it you don't like Matchbox?

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 23 Jul 15 12.32am

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Quote mcduh at 22 Jul 2015 11.46pm

The Confederate flag, and the Confederacy itself's historic purpose is clear.

The flag's contemporary use is totally tasteless and in fact, it's *aggressively* tasteless and belies a really embarrassing level of ignorance.

And unfortunately, although these links to olde tyme documents and interviews from this year with black people who live in the UK and Ireland, etc. are interesting and informational to those of us who "get it," they are doomed to fail in the effort we're posting them:

because right-wing white people live in a hyper-avoidant alternate reality.


I take it you don't like Matchbox?


Funnily enough I thought about them earlier too.

Are you a rockabilly rebel rouser?

 

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View mcduh's Profile mcduh Flag 23 Jul 15 1.20am Send a Private Message to mcduh Add mcduh as a friend

I'm strictly Edwardian.

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 23 Jul 15 2.41am Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 23 Jul 2015 12.32am

Quote Jimenez at 23 Jul 2015 12.20am

Quote mcduh at 22 Jul 2015 11.46pm

The Confederate flag, and the Confederacy itself's historic purpose is clear.

The flag's contemporary use is totally tasteless and in fact, it's *aggressively* tasteless and belies a really embarrassing level of ignorance.

And unfortunately, although these links to olde tyme documents and interviews from this year with black people who live in the UK and Ireland, etc. are interesting and informational to those of us who "get it," they are doomed to fail in the effort we're posting them:

because right-wing white people live in a hyper-avoidant alternate reality.


I take it you don't like Matchbox?


Funnily enough I thought about them earlier too.

Are you a rockabilly rebel rouser?


Funnily enough I quite often see Brian Setzer...

 


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View MikeT's Profile MikeT Flag Burlington (Toronto Area) 23 Jul 15 3.31pm Send a Private Message to MikeT Add MikeT as a friend


The Vast, Hidden Community Of Racial Hatred In America

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View mcduh's Profile mcduh Flag 28 Jul 15 12.36am Send a Private Message to mcduh Add mcduh as a friend

What these flags needed was a disclaimer.

"Melissa Alford says videos show the aftermath of an ugly incident — a convoy of Confederate flag-bearing pickup trucks and their passengers interrupting a black child’s birthday party with threats and racial epithets."

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View 7mins's Profile 7mins Flag In the bush 28 Jul 15 1.05am Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Just back from America....country is screwed. Both sides are as bad as each other.
Politician had to apologise to the black community for saying "All lives matter"
There was a bike festival that had 99% participants were black...loads of local shops shut, it was all over the media, shop owners were accused of being racist.

 

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View mcduh's Profile mcduh Flag 29 Jul 15 1.19am Send a Private Message to mcduh Add mcduh as a friend

The "all lives matter" thing is, for lack of a better word....wack.

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Imagine that you’re sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don’t get any. So you say “I should get my fair share.” And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, “everyone should get their fair share.” Now, that’s a wonderful sentiment — indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad’s smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn’t solve the problem that you still haven’t gotten any!

The problem is that the statement “I should get my fair share” had an implicit “too” at the end: “I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else.” But your dad’s response treated your statement as though you meant “only I should get my fair share”, which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that “everyone should get their fair share,” while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.


That’s the situation of the “black lives matter” movement. Culture, laws, the arts, religion, and everyone else repeatedly suggest that all lives should matter. Clearly, that message already abounds in our society.

The problem is that, in practice, the world doesn’t work that way. You see the film Nightcrawler? You know the part where Renee Russo tells Jake Gyllenhal that she doesn’t want footage of a black or latino person dying, she wants news stories about affluent white people being killed? That’s not made up out of whole cloth — there is a news bias toward stories that the majority of the audience (who are white) can identify with. So when a young black man gets killed (prior to the recent police shootings), it’s generally not considered “news”, while a middle-aged white woman being killed is treated as news. And to a large degree, that is accurate — young black men are killed in significantly disproportionate numbers, which is why we don’t treat it as anything new. But the result is that, societally, we don’t pay as much attention to certain people’s deaths as we do to others. So, currently, we don’t treat all lives as though they matter equally.

Just like asking dad for your fair share, the phrase “black lives matter” also has an implicit “too” at the end: it’s saying that black lives should also matter. But responding to this by saying “all lives matter” is willfully going back to ignoring the problem. It’s a way of dismissing the statement by falsely suggesting that it means “only black lives matter,” when that is obviously not the case. And so saying “all lives matter” as a direct response to “black lives matter” is essentially saying that we should just go back to ignoring the problem.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 29 Jul 15 9.59am

Quote Jimenez at 23 Jul 2015 2.41am

Quote nickgusset at 23 Jul 2015 12.32am

Quote Jimenez at 23 Jul 2015 12.20am

Quote mcduh at 22 Jul 2015 11.46pm

The Confederate flag, and the Confederacy itself's historic purpose is clear.

The flag's contemporary use is totally tasteless and in fact, it's *aggressively* tasteless and belies a really embarrassing level of ignorance.

And unfortunately, although these links to olde tyme documents and interviews from this year with black people who live in the UK and Ireland, etc. are interesting and informational to those of us who "get it," they are doomed to fail in the effort we're posting them:

because right-wing white people live in a hyper-avoidant alternate reality.


I take it you don't like Matchbox?


Funnily enough I thought about them earlier too.

Are you a rockabilly rebel rouser?


Funnily enough I quite often see Brian Setzer...


He was in the Stray Cats

 

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